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Graycap23

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I hope Trump wins/steals

.....and proceeds to collapse this entire corrupt gov't.
[Edited 11/8/16 7:20am]
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Reply #1 posted 11/07/16 7:55pm

TonyVanDam

Never mind one term, President Donald J. Trump will not make it pass the first 100 days in offices. He has pissed off enough non-white folks and some white women that makes the potential of him getting the JFK treatment.

And it would not surprise that the "lone nut" turns out to be another sexually harassed accuser that has yet to come forward.

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Reply #2 posted 11/07/16 8:09pm

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TonyVanDam said:

Never mind one term, President Donald J. Trump will not make it pass the first 100 days in offices. He has pissed off enough non-white folks and some white women that makes the potential of him getting the JFK treatment.

And it would not surprise that the "lone nut" turns out to be another sexually harassed accuser that has yet to come forward.


100 days is long enough to cripple this corrupt govt
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Reply #3 posted 11/07/16 10:04pm

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What makes you think that Trump isn't "corrupt" himself, or has been benefitting from a "corrupt" government personally for decades ?

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Reply #4 posted 11/07/16 10:32pm

DarlingDiana

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What makes you think that Trump isn't "corrupt" himself, or has been benefitting from a "corrupt" government personally for decades ?


Irrelevant. It's not about Trump. It's about sending a message. He's just the messenger. Electing him would throw a huge spanner into the works of a corrupt system regardless of what he personally does. Just by getting Trump elected the establishment will have been dealt a huge blow.
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Reply #5 posted 11/07/16 10:33pm

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DarlingDiana said:

jjhunsecker said:

What makes you think that Trump isn't "corrupt" himself, or has been benefitting from a "corrupt" government personally for decades ?

Irrelevant. It's not about Trump. It's about sending a message. He's just the messenger. Electing him would throw a huge spanner into the works of a corrupt system regardless of what he personally does. Just by getting Trump elected the establishment will have been dealt a huge blow.


And then what? Incompetence rules the day?


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Reply #6 posted 11/07/16 10:49pm

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Graycap23 said:

.....and proceeds to collapse this entire corrupt gov't.

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Yep.

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That's the way to Make American Great Again.

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I think that you are not alone.

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I think that half of Trumps followers feel exactly the same way as you do.

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I love this country though.

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I don't want it to self destruct.

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I want people to work together to solve the problems of our country including corruption.

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I think that people like you are the biggest thing that is wrong with this country.

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You really need to grow up.

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Corruption is a force of nature and no matter what we do to fight it, it will always find new ways to be part of the system.

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But if you can't have America live up to your perfect ideals then you want to see it crash and burn.

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What a selfish irresponsible position to take.

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Being a critic is easy.

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Stop being such a lazy, cynical, purist, roll up your sleeves and get to work trying to solve some of the problems that you find with our government.

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And if your not willing to do that, then get out of the way of the rest of us who are willing to work to solve Americas problems.

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"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Donald Trump
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Reply #7 posted 11/07/16 11:05pm

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QueenofCardboard said:

Graycap23 said:

.....and proceeds to collapse this entire corrupt gov't.

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Yep.

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That's the way to Make American Great Again.

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I think that you are not alone.

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I think that half of Trumps followers feel exactly the same way as you do.

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I love this country though.

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I don't want it to self destruct.

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I want people to work together to solve the problems of our country including corruption.

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I think that people like you are the biggest thing that is wrong with this country.

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You really need to grow up.

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Corruption is a force of nature and no matter what we do to fight it, it will always find new ways to be part of the system.

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But if you can't have America live up to your perfect ideals then you want to see it crash and burn.

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What a selfish irresponsible position to take.

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Being a critic is easy.

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Stop being such a lazy, cynical, purist, roll up your sleeves and get to work trying to solve some of the problems that you find with our government.

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And if your not willing to do that, then get out of the way of the rest of us who are willing to work to solve Americas problems.

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Brilliant post Queenie smile

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Reply #8 posted 11/07/16 11:18pm

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DiminutiveRocker said:

DarlingDiana said:

jjhunsecker said: Irrelevant. It's not about Trump. It's about sending a message. He's just the messenger. Electing him would throw a huge spanner into the works of a corrupt system regardless of what he personally does. Just by getting Trump elected the establishment will have been dealt a huge blow.


And then what? Incompetence rules the day?


[Edited 11/7/16 22:34pm]

These people really believe that trump is "anti-establishment"...I would laugh at their naivete if it wasn't so dangerous. Trump played these suckers, and he's laughing at them...He has no concern for anybody but himself, and will use even his loss (Please God !) to enrich himself further and push his "brand"...Who would really believe that a guy in a Louis VIV mansion is against the "establishment". He IS the Establishment

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Reply #9 posted 11/08/16 2:35am

DarlingDiana

jjhunsecker said:



DiminutiveRocker said:




DarlingDiana said:


jjhunsecker said: Irrelevant. It's not about Trump. It's about sending a message. He's just the messenger. Electing him would throw a huge spanner into the works of a corrupt system regardless of what he personally does. Just by getting Trump elected the establishment will have been dealt a huge blow.


And then what? Incompetence rules the day?



[Edited 11/7/16 22:34pm]




These people really believe that trump is "anti-establishment"...I would laugh at their naivete if it wasn't so dangerous. Trump played these suckers, and he's laughing at them...He has no concern for anybody but himself, and will use even his loss (Please God !) to enrich himself further and push his "brand"...Who would really believe that a guy in a Louis VIV mansion is against the "establishment". He IS the Establishment



You can judge a man by the enemies he makes. The establishment hates him. And why is that? Again, you make the mistake of thinking it's all about Trump the individual. It's not. It's about what he stands for and the movement behind him. That's what the establishment fears. That's what makes the Trump campaign anti-establishment.
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Reply #10 posted 11/08/16 3:01am

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TonyVanDam said:

Never mind one term, President Donald J. Trump will not make it pass the first 100 days in offices. He has pissed off enough non-white folks and some white women that makes the potential of him getting the JFK treatment.

And it would not surprise that the "lone nut" turns out to be another sexually harassed accuser that has yet to come forward.

People said the same thing about then Senator Obama..."He's Black, he won't Live pass his 1st term".....Minorities don't have a History of Killing the winner of a Presidential race if their Favorite White Candidate loses...

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Reply #11 posted 11/08/16 5:52am

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Trump sealed his fate over the weekend when he insulted Jay-Z and Beyonce. Now, the Bey Hive will turn out to vote for Hilary in bus-loads in every city. And there is no intimidating them. The only thing that scares them is her retirement. If anyone tries to intimidate or stop the Bey Hive from voting then God rest their souls. So yeah, Trump really fucked up his chances of winning when he insulted she and her husband. lol

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Reply #12 posted 11/08/16 5:58am

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QueenofCardboard said:

Graycap23 said:

.....and proceeds to collapse this entire corrupt gov't.

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Yep.

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That's the way to Make American Great Again.

.

I think that you are not alone.

.

I think that half of Trumps followers feel exactly the same way as you do.

.

I love this country though.

.

I don't want it to self destruct.

.

I want people to work together to solve the problems of our country including corruption.

.

I think that people like you are the biggest thing that is wrong with this country.

.

You really need to grow up.

.

Corruption is a force of nature and no matter what we do to fight it, it will always find new ways to be part of the system.

.

But if you can't have America live up to your perfect ideals then you want to see it crash and burn.

.

What a selfish irresponsible position to take.

.

Being a critic is easy.

.

Stop being such a lazy, cynical, purist, roll up your sleeves and get to work trying to solve some of the problems that you find with our government.

.

And if your not willing to do that, then get out of the way of the rest of us who are willing to work to solve Americas problems.

.

The results speak for themselves. Take a HARD look at what the U.S. call democracy.

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Reply #13 posted 11/08/16 6:00am

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jjhunsecker said:



DiminutiveRocker said:




DarlingDiana said:


jjhunsecker said: Irrelevant. It's not about Trump. It's about sending a message. He's just the messenger. Electing him would throw a huge spanner into the works of a corrupt system regardless of what he personally does. Just by getting Trump elected the establishment will have been dealt a huge blow.


And then what? Incompetence rules the day?



[Edited 11/7/16 22:34pm]




These people really believe that trump is "anti-establishment"...I would laugh at their naivete if it wasn't so dangerous. Trump played these suckers, and he's laughing at them...He has no concern for anybody but himself, and will use even his loss (Please God !) to enrich himself further and push his "brand"...Who would really believe that a guy in a Louis VIV mansion is against the "establishment". He IS the Establishment


Exactly! Trump bamboozled the shit out of his supporters.
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Reply #14 posted 11/08/16 6:01am

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kitbradley said:

Trump sealed his fate over the weekend when he insulted Jay-Z and Beyonce. Now, the Bey Hive will turn out to vote for Hilary in bus-loads in every city. And there is no intimidating them. The only thing that scares them is her retirement. If anyone tries to intimidate or stop the Bey Hive from voting then God rest their souls. So yeah, Trump really fucked up his chances of winning when he insulted she and her husband. lol


Hilarious lol
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Reply #15 posted 11/08/16 6:10am

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2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:

These people really believe that trump is "anti-establishment"...I would laugh at their naivete if it wasn't so dangerous. Trump played these suckers, and he's laughing at them...He has no concern for anybody but himself, and will use even his loss (Please God !) to enrich himself further and push his "brand"...Who would really believe that a guy in a Louis VIV mansion is against the "establishment". He IS the Establishment

Exactly! Trump bamboozled the shit out of his supporters.

According to NY Times, trump donated $100K to the Clinton Foundation

[Edited 11/8/16 6:14am]

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Reply #16 posted 11/08/16 6:12am

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TonyVanDam said:

Never mind one term, President Donald J. Trump will not make it pass the first 100 days in offices. He has pissed off enough non-white folks and some white women that makes the potential of him getting the JFK treatment.

And it would not surprise that the "lone nut" turns out to be another sexually harassed accuser that has yet to come forward.

If anything, it would probably be one of his supporters who finally woke up and realized that the Donald was playing them for fools

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Reply #17 posted 11/08/16 6:17am

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part of me is okay if she wins she will fail bigly. she is a farce and a hoax and not at all well and not healthy or mentally sound. even if she gets congress they are not going to be her lap dog.

So she keeps her word and appoints activist justices that ignore the Constitution (which IS what she said she would do) and she creates cases to challenge Heller, Hobby lobby, and Citizens United... and they are overturned (odd how the rulings she agrees with are settled law and it is an outrage to even suggest they be overturned! Or in the case of Doe V Bolton be enforced as written--which she is opposed to as well) would be a good bases to remove them come 2021.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #18 posted 11/08/16 6:25am

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2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:



DiminutiveRocker said:




DarlingDiana said:


jjhunsecker said: Irrelevant. It's not about Trump. It's about sending a message. He's just the messenger. Electing him would throw a huge spanner into the works of a corrupt system regardless of what he personally does. Just by getting Trump elected the establishment will have been dealt a huge blow.


And then what? Incompetence rules the day?



[Edited 11/7/16 22:34pm]




These people really believe that trump is "anti-establishment"...I would laugh at their naivete if it wasn't so dangerous. Trump played these suckers, and he's laughing at them...He has no concern for anybody but himself, and will use even his loss (Please God !) to enrich himself further and push his "brand"...Who would really believe that a guy in a Louis VIV mansion is against the "establishment". He IS the Establishment


Exactly! Trump bamboozled the shit out of his supporters.


I always found it strange that Trump's base, the forgotten working man, could never afford to stay at a Trump hotel or play golf at one of his courses. He attacked the elites, which are his customers. Not a great business plan, Mr. Businessman.
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Reply #19 posted 11/08/16 6:34am

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Graycap23 said:

QueenofCardboard said:

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Yep.

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That's the way to Make American Great Again.

.

I think that you are not alone.

.

I think that half of Trumps followers feel exactly the same way as you do.

.

I love this country though.

.

I don't want it to self destruct.

.

I want people to work together to solve the problems of our country including corruption.

.

I think that people like you are the biggest thing that is wrong with this country.

.

You really need to grow up.

.

Corruption is a force of nature and no matter what we do to fight it, it will always find new ways to be part of the system.

.

But if you can't have America live up to your perfect ideals then you want to see it crash and burn.

.

What a selfish irresponsible position to take.

.

Being a critic is easy.

.

Stop being such a lazy, cynical, purist, roll up your sleeves and get to work trying to solve some of the problems that you find with our government.

.

And if your not willing to do that, then get out of the way of the rest of us who are willing to work to solve Americas problems.

.

The results speak for themselves. Take a HARD look at what the U.S. call democracy.



We don't have a democracy. Never have had one.

Trump has already done the most important job, IMHO. His capture of the GOP nomination should be enough, I hope, to drive the fatal nail in the TEA Party's coffin. Now it is a matter of the GOP realizing that "campaign by scandal" is a losing proposition and they need to go back to campaigning on actual ideas and plans.

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Reply #20 posted 11/08/16 6:43am

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leftcoast said:

2elijah said:
Exactly! Trump bamboozled the shit out of his supporters.
I always found it strange that Trump's base, the forgotten working man, could never afford to stay at a Trump hotel or play golf at one of his courses. He attacked the elites, which are his customers. Not a great business plan, Mr. Businessman.

Trump was just using those people in his base. He never cared about them and never will. He has no history of charitable giving, and no history of activism in any way, shape or form as a private citizen that would have helped the "forgotten working man". If anything, he has a history of STIFFING the working men and women who supplied him with goods and services for his business

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jjhunsecker said:

leftcoast said:

2elijah said: I always found it strange that Trump's base, the forgotten working man, could never afford to stay at a Trump hotel or play golf at one of his courses. He attacked the elites, which are his customers. Not a great business plan, Mr. Businessman.

Trump was just using those people in his base. He never cared about them and never will. He has no history of charitable giving, and no history of activism in any way, shape or form as a private citizen that would have helped the "forgotten working man". If anything, he has a history of STIFFING the working men and women who supplied him with goods and services for his business



You're 100% right.

Amazingly, there are tens of millions of Americans that believe if we make rich people richer, they will shower us with jobs, raises, and other goodies. It's like grown-ups believing in the Tooth Fairy.

Even though we have two separate, factual examples of trickle-down economics being a complete failure for the working class, people still buy into it. It really is a head-scratcher.

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RodeoSchro said:

jjhunsecker said:

Trump was just using those people in his base. He never cared about them and never will. He has no history of charitable giving, and no history of activism in any way, shape or form as a private citizen that would have helped the "forgotten working man". If anything, he has a history of STIFFING the working men and women who supplied him with goods and services for his business



You're 100% right.

Amazingly, there are tens of millions of Americans that believe if we make rich people richer, they will shower us with jobs, raises, and other goodies. It's like grown-ups believing in the Tooth Fairy.

Even though we have two separate, factual examples of trickle-down economics being a complete failure for the working class, people still buy into it. It really is a head-scratcher.

That's why I have to laugh when you see people on here who actually beleive that Trump would "wreck the Establishment" or some such nonsense. He'll give massive tax breaks to folks like himself, and the poor average slob will see nothing out of this...If they were saying Sanders , or even Warren, would be this attack on the Establishment, then I would see a point ...

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Reply #23 posted 11/08/16 6:59am

leftcoast

RodeoSchro said:



jjhunsecker said:




leftcoast said:


2elijah said: I always found it strange that Trump's base, the forgotten working man, could never afford to stay at a Trump hotel or play golf at one of his courses. He attacked the elites, which are his customers. Not a great business plan, Mr. Businessman.


Trump was just using those people in his base. He never cared about them and never will. He has no history of charitable giving, and no history of activism in any way, shape or form as a private citizen that would have helped the "forgotten working man". If anything, he has a history of STIFFING the working men and women who supplied him with goods and services for his business





You're 100% right.

Amazingly, there are tens of millions of Americans that believe if we make rich people richer, they will shower us with jobs, raises, and other goodies. It's like grown-ups believing in the Tooth Fairy.

Even though we have two separate, factual examples of trickle-down economics being a complete failure for the working class, people still buy into it. It really is a head-scratcher.



This whole campaign was about him. Just like his businesses are about him. His buildings have TRUMP in huge block letters. He saw an opening and exploited it.
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jjhunsecker said:

RodeoSchro said:



You're 100% right.

Amazingly, there are tens of millions of Americans that believe if we make rich people richer, they will shower us with jobs, raises, and other goodies. It's like grown-ups believing in the Tooth Fairy.

Even though we have two separate, factual examples of trickle-down economics being a complete failure for the working class, people still buy into it. It really is a head-scratcher.

That's why I have to laugh when you see people on here who actually beleive that Trump would "wreck the Establishment" or some such nonsense. He'll give massive tax breaks to folks like himself, and the poor average slob will see nothing out of this...If they were saying Sanders , or even Warren, would be this attack on the Establishment, then I would see a point ...



Indeed.

I was always curious why Clinton didn't pull a Ross Perot at some point and pull out a chart that showed what the effect of each candidate's 2015 tax bill would have been under their proposal.

Trump's taxes would have gone down under his plan. Clinton's taxes would have gone up under her plan.

How much more clear can it be as to which candidate was putting the country's interests ahead of their own finances?

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Reply #25 posted 11/08/16 7:08am

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leftcoast said:

RodeoSchro said:



You're 100% right.

Amazingly, there are tens of millions of Americans that believe if we make rich people richer, they will shower us with jobs, raises, and other goodies. It's like grown-ups believing in the Tooth Fairy.

Even though we have two separate, factual examples of trickle-down economics being a complete failure for the working class, people still buy into it. It really is a head-scratcher.

This whole campaign was about him. Just like his businesses are about him. His buildings have TRUMP in huge block letters. He saw an opening and exploited it.

Very true. You know that they formed the basis of his whole campaign by listening to right-wing talk radio and focusing on the issues most discussed on those shows , like immigration and trade . He found a target audience, and narrow-casted to them...and played them for fools

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leftcoast said:

RodeoSchro said:



You're 100% right.

Amazingly, there are tens of millions of Americans that believe if we make rich people richer, they will shower us with jobs, raises, and other goodies. It's like grown-ups believing in the Tooth Fairy.

Even though we have two separate, factual examples of trickle-down economics being a complete failure for the working class, people still buy into it. It really is a head-scratcher.

This whole campaign was about him. Just like his businesses are about him. His buildings have TRUMP in huge block letters. He saw an opening and exploited it.



I think Trump is going to learn that alienating more than half the country never turns out to be a good business model.

How many Hillary Clinton supporters do you think will ever stay at a Trump property again? Considering that most Trump supporters can't afford to stay at Trump properties, this could be a real negative impact on his revenue.

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Reply #27 posted 11/08/16 7:13am

Graycap23

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jjhunsecker said:

RodeoSchro said:



You're 100% right.

Amazingly, there are tens of millions of Americans that believe if we make rich people richer, they will shower us with jobs, raises, and other goodies. It's like grown-ups believing in the Tooth Fairy.

Even though we have two separate, factual examples of trickle-down economics being a complete failure for the working class, people still buy into it. It really is a head-scratcher.

That's why I have to laugh when you see people on here who actually beleive that Trump would "wreck the Establishment" or some such nonsense. He'll give massive tax breaks to folks like himself, and the poor average slob will see nothing out of this...If they were saying Sanders , or even Warren, would be this attack on the Establishment, then I would see a point ...

Trump is a baffoon.............but he could very well be the tipping point to collaspe this fraud of a sustem the U.S. has in place. The Feds and the each state seems to have an agenda that has almost nothing to do with actually benefitting the citizens. I'm bored with it all.

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Reply #28 posted 11/08/16 7:33am

RodeoSchro

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Graycap23 said:

jjhunsecker said:

That's why I have to laugh when you see people on here who actually beleive that Trump would "wreck the Establishment" or some such nonsense. He'll give massive tax breaks to folks like himself, and the poor average slob will see nothing out of this...If they were saying Sanders , or even Warren, would be this attack on the Establishment, then I would see a point ...

Trump is a baffoon.............but he could very well be the tipping point to collaspe this fraud of a sustem the U.S. has in place. The Feds and the each state seems to have an agenda that has almost nothing to do with actually benefitting the citizens. I'm bored with it all.


Are you going to, or did you already, cast a vote for president in this election?

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i think hillary will win but she will be a yuge failure and will end up not even making it to 2020. She will be impeacher or resign or her obvious health issues will take their toll.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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