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Video shows Tulsa police killing man as officer uses gun not Taser 'by mistake'

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  • Eric Harris: ‘I’m losing my breath.’ Second officer: ‘Fuck your breath’
  • Reserve officer Bob Bates has said he thought was using his Taser

Video has been released of the moment a reserve police officer in Tulsa, Oklahoma, shot and killed a man by mistake.

The reserve officer, Bob Bates, a 73-year-old insurance executive, told police he had thought he was firing his Taser stun gun at Eric Courtney Harris, 44, a convicted felon who a police report on the incident said was being arrested after having sold a gun to an undercover officer.

The video, which came from a police officer’s body camera, was released by police on Friday. It shows Harris running down a suburban street, away from his pursuers. The officer catches up with him and Harris is brought to the ground. A shot is heard and Harris gasps in pain.

A voice, presumably that of Bates, says: “I shot him. I’m sorry.”

A gun is dropped on the road and then picked up.

Harris cries out, repeatedly, “He shot me!” and says: “Oh my God, I’m losing my breath.”

As officers continue to subdue Harris, one officer is heard to say: “Fuck your breath.”

Medical help was called to the scene, but Harris died in hospital.

Later, Bates told the Tulsa World: “It was me,” and added: “My attorney has advised me not to comment. As much as I would like to, I can’t.”

Harris’s death is one of a number involving black men at the hands of white police officers to have occurred across the US in recent months. Last year, protests broke out after the officers who killed Michael Brown, 18, in Ferguson, Missouri and 43-year-old Eric Garner in New York City were not indicted.

Last week, an officer in North Charleston, South Carolina shot and killed Walter Scott, a 50-year-old man who ran away from a routine traffic stop. The shooting was captured on camera by a bystander with an iPhone.

Scott’s funeral took place on Saturday; the officer, Michael Slager, has been fired from the force and charged with murder.

The intensity of the protests over such deaths – which gave rise to the Black Lives Matter movement and the use of Garner’s last words, “I can’t breathe”, as a campaign slogan – has stoked intense national debate about the policing of African American communities and the state of civil rights in the US.

Like the death of Walter Scott, Garner’s death was captured on video by a bystander.

Bates was assigned to the violent crimes task force of the Tulsa County sheriff’s office. Reserve deputies “have [the] full powers and authority” of a deputy while on duty, Major Shannon Clark told the Tulsa World, saying their use in such cases was not unusual.

Oklahoma police have said they do not intend to investigate Harris’s death any further, unless requested to do so by the sheriff’s office.

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in the next post there is a follow-up of this story

“Transracial is a term that has long since been defined as the adoption of a child that is of a different race than the adoptive parents,” : https://thinkprogress.org...fb6e18544a
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Reply #1 posted 04/17/15 6:33am

free2bfreeda

Report: Tulsa sheriff's employees were told to forge Bates' training records

Reserve Officer Robert (Bob) Bates "inadvertently" fired gun in shooting

Mr Eric Harris>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Robert Bates

: http://www.cnn.com/2015/0...-training/

Tulsa, Oklahoma (CNN)Amid growing scrutiny overwhether a 73-year-old vol... qualified to be policing the streets, a new report raises a troubling allegation.

Some supervisors at the Tulsa County Sheriff's Office were told to forge Reserve Deputy Robert Bates' training records, and three who refused were reassigned to less desirable duties, the Tulsa World newspaper reported.

Claims that the volunteer deputy's records had been falsified emerged "almost immediately" from multiple sources after Bates killed Eric Harris on April 2, reporter Dylan Goforth said. Bates claims he meant to use his Taser but accidentally fired his handgun at Harris instead.

The newspaper's story does not say who allegedly asked the supervisors to falsify the training records or why. But the orders apparently started years ago, before Harris' death, "back when (Bates) was trying to get on as a deputy," reporter Ziva Branstetter told CNN's New Day.

Tulsa, Oklahoma (CNN)Amid growing scrutiny overwhether a 73-year-old vol... qualified to be policing the streets, a new report raises a troubling allegation.

Some supervisors at the Tulsa County Sheriff's Office were told to forge Reserve Deputy Robert Bates' training records, and three who refused were reassigned to less desirable duties, the Tulsa World newspaper reported.

Claims that the volunteer deputy's records had been falsified emerged "almost immediately" from multiple sources after Bates killed Eric Harris on April 2, reporter Dylan Goforth said. Bates claims he meant to use his Taser but accidentally fired his handgun at Harris instead.

The newspaper's story does not say who allegedly asked the supervisors to falsify the training records or why. But the orders apparently started years ago, before Harris' death, "back when (Bates) was trying to get on as a deputy," reporter Ziva Branstetter told CNN's

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these incidents are shocking. why are black men being (so called) accidently killed. they are unarmed, shot in the back, heard yelling out in pain saying they cannot breath, while the involved officers are not paying attention as they have a knee on the neck of the victim?

it's reported that bates has donated police cars, police equipment and is a personal friend to the department's chief.

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Reply #2 posted 04/17/15 3:27pm

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That fool of a wannabe cop, has a lot of explaining to do. He should be held accountable for his actions and stop making excuses.
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Reply #3 posted 04/17/15 6:53pm

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Robert Bates speaks out on Tulsa shooting: 'I still can't believe it happened'

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shocking. this man was not quailified to be in the field assisting in an arrest.

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Reply #4 posted 04/17/15 11:55pm

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FWIW I do think this was a genuine mistake. However, the officer effectively bought his way into the police and was not trained!!! Somebody should be held accountable for this. Also do you have culpable homicide in the US? If so I would have thought this more apt than excusable homicide which implies that somehow the man running was at fault (which of course he isn't but some will argue he is). There is no way anybody in the police should be able to mix up a taser and a real gun - It is simply unacceptable.

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Reply #5 posted 04/18/15 4:21am

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maplenpg said:

FWIW I do think this was a genuine mistake. However, the officer effectively bought his way into the police and was not trained!!! Somebody should be held accountable for this. Also do you have culpable homicide in the US? If so I would have thought this more apt than excusable homicide which implies that somehow the man running was at fault (which of course he isn't but some will argue he is). There is no way anybody in the police should be able to mix up a taser and a real gun - It is simply unacceptable.


He's guilty. There is a big difference between a 357 magnum and a taser. The tsder is bright yellow. By the time he had that gun in his hand he had to knoe the difference of the feel and the color.

Secondly, another officer sitting on top of the victim didn't give a damn the man was struggling to breathe, while he had his knee on the victim's neck and handcuffing him. Plus that cop said "F*ck your breath" to the victim, when the victim told him he couldn't breathe.

So no consideration was given to saving the victim's life if the fake deputy claimed he shot him by mistake. All they cared about was trying to cover up that the fake deputy shot him with his gun. But it will not be surprising if we hear the same, old crap from some sickos who will blame the victim for his demise or say he deserved what he got, instead of holding the fake deputy accountable for his actions. Excuses, excuses. Same isht, different day.
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Reply #6 posted 04/18/15 5:20am

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2elijah said:

maplenpg said:

FWIW I do think this was a genuine mistake. However, the officer effectively bought his way into the police and was not trained!!! Somebody should be held accountable for this. Also do you have culpable homicide in the US? If so I would have thought this more apt than excusable homicide which implies that somehow the man running was at fault (which of course he isn't but some will argue he is). There is no way anybody in the police should be able to mix up a taser and a real gun - It is simply unacceptable.

He's guilty. There is a big difference between a 357 magnum and a taser. The tsder is bright yellow. By the time he had that gun in his hand he had to knoe the difference of the feel and the color. Secondly, another officer sitting on top of the victim didn't give a damn the man was struggling to breathe, while he had his knee on the victim's neck and handcuffing him. Plus that cop said "F*ck your breath" to the victim, when the victim told him he couldn't breathe. So no consideration was given to saving the victim's life if the fake deputy claimed he shot him by mistake. All they cared about was trying to cover up that the fake deputy shot him with his gun. But it will not be surprising if we hear the same, old crap from some sickos who will blame the victim for his demise or say he deserved what he got, instead of holding the fake deputy accountable for his actions. Excuses, excuses. Same isht, different day. [Edited 4/18/15 5:12am]


Okay....I didn't realise tasers were bright yellow. My mistake. Guilty then.

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Reply #7 posted 04/18/15 5:53am

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maplenpg said:



2elijah said:


maplenpg said:

FWIW I do think this was a genuine mistake. However, the officer effectively bought his way into the police and was not trained!!! Somebody should be held accountable for this. Also do you have culpable homicide in the US? If so I would have thought this more apt than excusable homicide which implies that somehow the man running was at fault (which of course he isn't but some will argue he is). There is no way anybody in the police should be able to mix up a taser and a real gun - It is simply unacceptable.



He's guilty. There is a big difference between a 357 magnum and a taser. The tsder is bright yellow. By the time he had that gun in his hand he had to knoe the difference of the feel and the color. Secondly, another officer sitting on top of the victim didn't give a damn the man was struggling to breathe, while he had his knee on the victim's neck and handcuffing him. Plus that cop said "F*ck your breath" to the victim, when the victim told him he couldn't breathe. So no consideration was given to saving the victim's life if the fake deputy claimed he shot him by mistake. All they cared about was trying to cover up that the fake deputy shot him with his gun. But it will not be surprising if we hear the same, old crap from some sickos who will blame the victim for his demise or say he deserved what he got, instead of holding the fake deputy accountable for his actions. Excuses, excuses. Same isht, different day. [Edited 4/18/15 5:12am]


Okay....I didn't realise tasers were bright yellow. My mistake. Guilty then.


Not sure if they all are, but when they interviewed the guy, on Matt Lauer's show, they showed the bright yellow taser, and showed where it was kept on the guy. It was kept In his (the fake deputy's) upper, right chest area, and the gun was near his waist. Claims he was yelling taser, but pulls out his gun instead.

No worries though. They will get this guy a sympathetic jury, and he will get away with it like another, well-known fake, deputy dog cowboy cop did, as well as many police officers. It is a pattern. Just lie and tell the jury it looked like a scary, Black man and you feared for your life, and you'll get away with it.
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2elijah said:

maplenpg said:


Okay....I didn't realise tasers were bright yellow. My mistake. Guilty then.

Not sure if they all are, but when they interviewed the guy, on Matt Lauer's show, they showed the bright yellow taser, and showed where it was kept on the guy. It was kept In his (the fake deputy's) upper, right chest area, and the gun was near his waist. Claims he was yelling taser, but pulls out his gun instead.

I did a little research on tasers in the UK where there can be no such mix up as the police are unarmed. They are bright yellow over here too so I'm assuming it's everywhere. This hasn't been big news over here so my knowledge is a bit sketchy - thank you for informing me correctly. Sounds like this guy knew exactly what he was doing.

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Reply #9 posted 04/18/15 6:28am

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2elijah said:


maplenpg said:



Okay....I didn't realise tasers were bright yellow. My mistake. Guilty then.



Not sure if they all are, but when they interviewed the guy, on Matt Lauer's show, they showed the bright yellow taser, and showed where it was kept on the guy. It was kept In his (the fake deputy's) upper, right chest area, and the gun was near his waist. Claims he was yelling taser, but pulls out his gun instead.

I did a little research on tasers in the UK where there can be no such mix up as the police are unarmed. They are bright yellow over here too so I'm assuming it's everywhere. This hasn't been big news over here so my knowledge is a bit sketchy - thank you for informing me correctly. Sounds like this guy knew exactly what he was doing.


As big as that taser is, I'd like to know how he could have got that confused with his gun, when the taser was in his chest area. Once he had the gun in his hand, how did he miss the color wasn't yellow, if he claims he meant to use the taser? Interesting to say the least.
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