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Remember that John McCain border commercial? Or, The Secret Gay Illegal Immigrant Sex Of A GOP Border Sheriff

Read more: http://www.towleroad.com/#ixzz1mlXtDkN0

Sheriff Paul Babeu, of Pinal County, AZ, is one of the most recognized faces of American anti-immigration sentiment. He's been a FOX News regular. He appeared in a John McCain campaign ad calling for a border fence. In January, Babeu announced his run for the United States Congress in a macho press release headed "It's Time For a New Sheriff In Washington," in which he decried the "400,000 illegal crossings into our state every year."

Well. According to a story broken this week in the Phoenix New Times, Babeu spent much of the last decade in a long-term gay relationship with an undocumented immigrant named Jose, whom Babeu threatened with deportation after their relationship ended.

From The Phoenix New Times:

He says [Babeu's] lawyer Chris DeRose demanded he sign an agreement that he would never breathe a word about the affair. But Jose (New Times is withholding his last name because Babeu and his attorney have challenged his legal status) refused.

The 34-year-old from central Mexico charges that the sheriff's lawyer warned against mentioning the affair with Babeu. DeRose said gossip about Babeu would focus attention on Jose, attention that could result in his deportation, Jose says.

... Babeu didn't respond to requests for comment by publication time for this article, but his attorney, DeRose, says the dispute between Jose and the sheriff concerned Jose's work on Babeu's websites. He says Jose was a former volunteer who hacked into a campaign website.

DeRose didn't immediately address the other claims against him and the sheriff, except to say, "I never threatened to deport anybody" and that "[Babeu's] not threatening anybody."

Babeu and Jose allegedly met on Gay.com in 2006. At some point, Jose began doing web work for Babeu, maintaining his campaign websites, Facebook profile and Twitter feed. Their relationship began to disintegrate after Jose discovered Babeu's profile on Adam4Adam and created a false profile to see if Babeu was amenable to an affair. After many messages and explicit photos exchanged between Babeu and Jose's alter-ego (including Babeu's self-portrait, above), Jose's alter-ego arranged a date with Babeu at a steak house. (Babeu told Jose's alter-ego to "pack an overnight bag.") Babeu showed up and was shocked to discover Jose in the parking lot.

After the couple split, Jose began posting disparaging remarks about Babeu online. Texts exchanged by the men during that time are both sad and illuminating. From New Times:

Jose shared text messages between him and Babeu with New Times. A September 4, 2011, text from the sheriff reads: "You can never have business after this and you will harm me and many others in the process . . . including yourself & your family."

A couple of minutes later, Babeu followed with: "And you say you have loved me? Papi . . . this is no good."

Jose responded: "Good threats. Wont work. Im already hurt me . . . and you didn't care."

They exchanged more texts on September 6.

Jose: "Dont threat me. Thats illegal. Im just speaking . . . true."

Babeu: "You have crossed the line. Better get an attorney. You brother will also be contacted."

Since then, Jose claims he's been a constant target of harassment by Babeu and his lawyer. New Times writer Monica Alonzo solicited comment from Nancy Jo-Merritt, a "long-time Phoenix immigration attorney":

"If what [Babeu's attorney] says is correct [about Jose's being illegal], either the sheriff had a long relationship with someone he knew was undocumented, while all the time being Mr. Bluster about the border and using it for political gain," or he threatened to deport someone he just broke up with, Merritt says.

"That's just the worst kind of hypocrisy."

She adds that federal immigration-enforcement agents have better things to do than "take care of Babeu's boyfriends."

[Edited 2/19/12 10:12am]

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Reply #1 posted 02/18/12 12:18pm

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Via The Huffinton post

Paul Babeu, Arizona Sheriff, Allegedly Threatened Gay Mexican Ex-Lover With Deportation (VIDEO)

http://www.huffingtonpost...86353.html

UPDATE: Talking Points Memo reports Babeu is now stepping down from his role as Arizona co-chair of the Mitt Romney for President campaign. A Romney spokesperson told TPM, "Sheriff Babeu has stepped down from his volunteer position with the campaign so he can focus on the allegations against him. We support his decision.

One of Arizona's rising Republican stars is facing allegations he threatened to deport a...y ex-lover.

The Phoenix New Times is reporting that Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu, who has become one of the faces of the a...n Arizona and nationwide, threatened a 34-year-old man identified only as Jose with deportation if he disclosed details of their years-long affair. Jose had previously been asked to sign paperwork that he would never breathe a word about the affair.

According to Jose's immigration attorney, Babeu's lawyer falsely claimed the central Mexico resident's visa paperwork had expired. "He did come in and retain me late last year based on threats and intimidation, and he wanted an attorney to help protect him,'' Melissa Weiss-Riner told the Arizona Republic.

The New Times and local Fox News affiliate KSAZ also published photos which appear to be of a barechested Babeu, which had been uploaded to a profile allegedly belonging to the sheriff on the gay dating website Adam4Adam.com.

Though he acknowledged Jose was a volunteer who helped on his first campaign for sheriff in 2008, Babeu -- who is currently running for Con...home state -- declined to respond to questions about whether the pair had a romantic relationship, saying he would not discuss his personal life, according to the Arizona Republic. When pressed for a comment by KSAZ, Babeu's attorney nonetheless slammed the allegations against his client: "He believes he'll be judged by his record as a 20-year veteran of the United States Armed Forces, police officer who has saved two lives in the line of duty and responded to thousands of emergencies, and Iraq war veteran."

Babeu subsequently released a statement, noting, "The allegations referred to an incident that occurred on Sept. 6, 2011, when the campaign’s website, Twitter account, and online financial transaction system were illegally hacked...a cease and desist letter was sent to the suspected perpetrator who promptly returned access to the campaign. We strongly deny the sensationalist headline published by the Phoenix New Times."

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Reply #2 posted 02/18/12 4:38pm

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So, basically this guy was an all around asshole. Glad this idiot has been exposed.

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Reply #3 posted 02/18/12 5:58pm

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Via LA Times

Arizona Sheriff Paul Babeu denies threatening to deport lover

http://www.latimes.com/ne...2908.story

An Arizona sheriff running for Congress as a Republican denied accusations Saturday that he had threatened to deport an alleged ex-lover, a Mexican national. In the process, he also resigned from a volunteer position with Mitt Romney's Arizona campaign and came out as gay.

After a report published Friday by the weekly Phoenix New Times, Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu acknowledged that he had a "personal relationship" with a man identified only as Jose.

Jose accused the sheriff of threatening to deport him after he refused to sign an agreement stipulating that he would not disclose details of their romantic involvement, the newspaper reported.

At a news conference Saturday, Babeu called the allegations "absolutely, completely false, except for the issues that refer to me as being gay. Because that's the truth. I am gay."

Babeu, considered an emerging star in the Republican Party, is known for his hard-line stance against illegal immigration, and told reporters he did not break any laws, instead casting the allegations as attempts to derail his congressional campaign.

He said he had called the Romney campaign to resign from his volunteer position as co-chairman of the Arizona Romney for President campaign. "We support his decision," Romney spokesman Ryan Williams said in a statement.

Babeu, 43, had been stumping for Romney in recent months, appearing recently at an event with former Vice President Dan Quayle.

During the almost 45-minute news conference, the sheriff defended his record as head of the law enforcement agency, and confirmed the authenticity of photos of himself circulating in the Phoenix New Times and elsewhere, including one of him posing in a bathroom wearing only undershorts.

"This isn't a case of … Rep. Weiner," Babeu said, invoking disgraced New York Congressman Anthony Weiner, a Democrat, who resigned after sending photos of himself to women online.

The Phoenix New Times published photographs on its website that it said came from the sheriff's online profile on a gay dating site where men tend to solicit sex.

A message left with a Pinal County sheriff's spokesman seeking comment was not immediately returned Saturday.

In text messages published by the weekly, Babeu allegedly told Jose: "You can never have business after this and you will harm me and many others in the process … including yourself & your family."

Pinal County, with a population of about 400,000, is a largely rural county just south of Phoenix and north of Tucson.

Babeu vowed to continue his campaign for Arizona's rural western 4th Congressional District seat; he is running against fellow Republican Paul Gosar.
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It's Arizona people. It's the GOP. Nothing to be alarmed at. It's nØRmä L.

Paul Babeu's Mexican Ex-Lover Says Sheriff's Attorney Threatened Him With Deportation

http://www.phoenixnewtime...n/2930984/

"To behave in a way that can threaten your own political career, it means that this person is a risk-taker," Bustamante says. The public "needs to know how far [politicians] are willing to go in taking risks."

Babeu's alleged adam4adam.com profile — which since has been blocked — listed him as a "good guy looking for another." He called himself "studboi1," described himself as "str8 acting, hard working and loyal," and said he was openly gay, looking for friendship and "1-on-1" sex.

While still in what he thought was a monogamous relationship with Babeu, Jose says, he had stumbled upon the sheriff's page on adam4adam, which is peppered with pornographic images of men having intercourse. He says he confronted Babeu and that the sheriff told him it was an old profile.

"I told him to delete it because he was the sheriff, and it didn't look right," Jose tells New Times. "I told him that if you don't want [to be with] me, I'll stop helping you with your websites, and you move on with your life, and I'll move on with mine."

Babeu assured him that he would delete the profile, Jose says.

When Jose checked again, he says the account still was there — so he created his own profile under an assumed name.

He says Babeu then sent pictures to Jose, thinking he was a guy named "Matt." In one photo, Babeu poses grinning in a pair of gray underwear in front of a mirror. The flash from his camera phone obscures his left shoulder. In another photo, he poses naked with an erection. His face isn't visible, but the bottom edge of one of Babeu's unmistakable arm tattoos can be seen.

"When I saw the pictures and was [communicating with] him, I just couldn't believe it," Jose says. "I just wanted to see how far he'd go with his lying."

In one of more than a hundred explicit text messages Jose provided between Babeu and "Matt," Babeu wrote:

"I'm in law enforcement . . . sheriff. Didn't tell you that earlier stud . . . that's why I must be discrete."

This exchange occurred while Babeu was attending police-training classes in Denver in June 2010, and he also offered Matt help in becoming a cop.

Like the aforementioned text messages, these apparently came from Babeu's current cell-phone number

In one exchange Jose shared, Babeu texted:

"I will suck you off as much as needed."

After another exchange, Jose (as Matt) asked if Babeu was masturbating, and Babeu wrote: "I'm just leaving mtg and headed home . . . still in uniform."

Babeu added:

"Dude, I can't send naked pics over e-mail . . . just can't for my job . . . you can have me in person and what ever else you want."

The following morning, Jose says, the sheriff sent explicit pictures.

At that time, Jose says, Babeu bragged in a text that he was the sheriff who had appeared in the aforementioned TV ad on border security with McCain. That night, he texted Matt that he "just did a TV show in Phx . . .Channel 12 news live."

The two planned to meet at San Tan Flat, a steak house in Queen Creek, in mid-June 2010, and Babeu texted Matt to bring an overnight bag.

Babeu was standing in the restaurant's parking lot when he drove up, Jose says. For about two minutes, Jose recalls, Babeu said nothing.

"He [finally] said he couldn't believe [Matt was really me]," Jose says. Babeu had worried that "maybe it was a reporter trying to catch him,"

Jose recalls.

The two wound up having dinner and going back to Babeu's place, Jose says.

Jose says he and Babeu first met in October 2006, after he got a message on his gay.com account from the then-Chandler police officer. That night, the two agreed to meet in downtown Chandler.

"We were supposed to go to a bar, but we decided not to go," Jose says. "We went to a hotel in downtown Chandler instead."

[Edited 2/18/12 18:21pm]

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Reply #5 posted 02/18/12 7:34pm

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Ahh the gays always taking the drama to the next level.

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Reply #6 posted 02/18/12 7:34pm

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I think I believe this accusation, at least so far. Why?

Because a GOP Congressional candidate in Arizona fesses up to being gay, because that was the one claim that couldn't really be denied or refuted, not with a particular photo like that.

What sticks out for me isn't that he was gay (another closet GOPer, what a shock!) or that he as a man of government allegedly abused it (he is a politician), but that until today he was Mittens' Arizona campaign co-chair.

With Mittens fighting for his political life in Michigan and (if the new PPP poll is even remotely accurate) Arizona potentially now a toss-up...Mittens doesn't need this headache down there with less than 2 weeks before the primary. It may or may not occupy national TV coverage for the next few days, but it definately will in local Arizona media.

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something about the photo makes this all the more ironic. his welcoming mouth! the mics (that all look like wangs..) the tallest of all? Univision! and that bride of Frankenstein looking chick in the back!

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Reply #8 posted 02/18/12 9:28pm

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You gotta feel for McCain, he keeps getting himself into all sorts of crazy.

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If the Sheriff loses his job over this, do not worry. AZ has a nice Democrat libertarian ready to take his place.

Hit the link for the complete story. You can't make this shit up. lol

Neo-Nazi J.T. Ready Runs for Pinal County Sheriff as a Democrat (w/Update)

http://blogs.phoenixnewti...or_pin.php

He supports legalizing marijuana, considers himself a civil libertarian, has had nice things to say about the Occupy movement, and recently filed paperwork in Pinal County to run for Sheriff as a Democrat.

One little speed bump: He also happens to be the best known neo-Nazi in Arizona and has referred to Adolf Hitler as a "great white civil rights leader."

I'm speaking, of course, of J.T. Ready, notorious for his affiliations with the National Socialist Movement (he's no longer an official member, but still marches with them), his one-time friendship with Sand Land's biggest bigot, ex-state Senate President Russell Pearce, and his ongoing armed patrols in the desert, during which he's turned over drugs, dead bodies and suspected illegal immigrants to the U.S. Border Patrol.

Currently, Ready has a "J.T. Ready for Sheriff" Facebook site, with photos showing him campaigning in Pinal County, sidling up to a pretty African-American woman, posing with a shotgun as he hunts "narco-terrorists in the desert night," and, my favorite, doing a black-power fist salute in front of a sign for a Malcolm X Street, apparently in Coolidge, Arizona.

His entry for the last of these bears repeating:

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Ready promises a "George Lincoln Rockwell Street" when elected...

"As part of our exploratory committee for Sheriff of Pinal County, Arizona- the Chairman and I visit a Black neighborhood to better understand the concerns of the people and how to utilize their help in combating Mexican drug cartels. Seems how we have an official Malcolm X street sign, one of my priorities will be to add a George Lincoln Rockwell sign as well."

Rockwell, in case you don't know, was the infamous fuhrer of the American Nazi Party, assassinated in 1967 by a disgruntled stormtrooper.

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A recent pic from Ready's profile on the white-supremacist NewSaxon site

Ready's committee "chairman"? According to paperwork Ready submitted to the Pinal County Elections Department, that's active NSM member Harry Hughes, a resident of Maricopa, Arizona, who recently scored some press for local swastika-lickers by distributing racist flier...Tan Valley.

Hit the link for page two of this story. Yes there is much more. lol

http://blogs.phoenixnewti...or_pin.php

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Reply #10 posted 02/19/12 3:12pm

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here we go again lol

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Reply #11 posted 02/19/12 8:41pm

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Are these guys tops or bottoms?

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All Glory To the Hypno-Toad! eek

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Reply #12 posted 02/19/12 9:05pm

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^Given that hes a sherrif and in a position of power and control I'd venture to say in the bed hes a power bottom.

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Reply #13 posted 02/19/12 9:18pm

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Sad and entirely not surprising.

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Reply #14 posted 02/20/12 6:37am

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OMG there was a song written about this - back in 1978!

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Reply #15 posted 02/20/12 6:56am

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^

I have listened to this song on the radio and elevators and stuff, but never paid much attention to the lyrics. It's even more awful when you see all the words like that. I thought it was just a cheesy song, but it's much worse than that. lol

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The sheriff being gay isn't the scandal, correct? I can't tell for sure from these articles, but it seems he was pretty open about being gay. The scandal would be his hypocrisy on illegal immigration and his threatening abuse of power against his ex.

I like how Jose worked it, too. This would make for a great tv movie. Preferably Skinamax.

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Reply #17 posted 02/20/12 8:02am

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Here's another one. evillol

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via TPM

http://talkingpointsmemo....?ref=fpblg

TPM Editor’s Blog

What’s Good About the Babeu Scandal

What’s Good About the Babeu Scandal

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There’s so much storm, drama and fascination around the Paul Babeu story. And we still don’t know the answer to the one genuinely significant question in it: whether Babeu used the de facto powers of his office to intimidate an estranged ex-lover.

But one thing shines through to me as perhaps the most significant part of the whole media storm: You have a hard-right Republican, with intense political ambitions outed as gay and accused of serious abuse of office. He vigorously denies the charges but says, Yeah, I’m gay. And by the way, I support gay marriage and I also think that gays should be able to serve openly in the US military.

Given what was contained in the original story, it’s not like Babeu had a great deal of choice about disclosing his sexuality. But then that hasn’t stopped others from trying. No comical denials (a la Larry Craig), no slinking off into a shamed obscurity (a la too many sad stories to mention). Just, yeah, I’m gay. And I’m still running for office.

Regardless of whether Babeu is guilty of the alleged infraction, this strikes me as a very positive thing and part of the bending arc of equality that’s been changing marriage laws around the country, snuffing out ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ and simply making the politics of homosexuality on the national stage something dramatically different from what it was less than a decade ago.

Josh Marshall

Josh Marshall is editor and publisher of TalkingP

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I think when all this calms down and the truth comes out is that Babeu was not really in the closet or hiding. Maybe behind glass, but seems that friends and others were aware of his sexuality. Not every Mo has to do a press conference to announce to the world their sexuality.

Plus Im hearing a lot of conflicting reports on "Jose", got to love that name wink , that he states that hes legally here and thus not available for deportation. This story sounds like its more focused to discredit Babeu's run for Senate than anything else.

While I don't agree with his party or his policies, this seems to be more of a smear job lol than anything else.

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Reply #20 posted 02/21/12 4:11am

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Dauphin said:

I like how Jose worked it, too.

I'm sure that Babeu feels the same way evillol

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V10LETBLUES said:

via TPM

http://talkingpointsmemo....?ref=fpblg

TPM Editor’s Blog

What’s Good About the Babeu Scandal

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There’s so much storm, drama and fascination around the Paul Babeu story. And we still don’t know the answer to the one genuinely significant question in it: whether Babeu used the de facto powers of his office to intimidate an estranged ex-lover.

But one thing shines through to me as perhaps the most significant part of the whole media storm: You have a hard-right Republican, with intense political ambitions outed as gay and accused of serious abuse of office. He vigorously denies the charges but says, Yeah, I’m gay. And by the way, I support gay marriage and I also think that gays should be able to serve openly in the US military.

Were those his public positions before this happened, or did he not publicize his support for gay marriage/military service after he got outed?

Just curious.

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RodeoSchro said:

V10LETBLUES said:

via TPM

http://talkingpointsmemo....?ref=fpblg

TPM Editor’s Blog

What’s Good About the Babeu Scandal

1545

There’s so much storm, drama and fascination around the Paul Babeu story. And we still don’t know the answer to the one genuinely significant question in it: whether Babeu used the de facto powers of his office to intimidate an estranged ex-lover.

But one thing shines through to me as perhaps the most significant part of the whole media storm: You have a hard-right Republican, with intense political ambitions outed as gay and accused of serious abuse of office. He vigorously denies the charges but says, Yeah, I’m gay. And by the way, I support gay marriage and I also think that gays should be able to serve openly in the US military.

Were those his public positions before this happened, or did he not publicize his support for gay marriage/military service after he got outed?

Just curious.

If he's a real right winger, AFTER he got outed. biggrin

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Reply #23 posted 02/21/12 7:12am

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Still haven't seen any proof that this Jose guy was illegally here or that he was ever threatened with deportation. I watched the Wolf Blitzer interview yesterday where Paul Babeu put these allegations in context. Jose was a volunteer working on Babeu's campaign and when their relationship went sour, he hijacked the website and social media accounts. He sent out non-authorized messages and tried to steal information about financial donations. Since Jose had an actual business in website management, that would explain Babeu's discussion of 'business' in the text message.

Any proof otherwise?

I sometimes don't understand how much the left loves to demonize the Republican party for having no tolerance and then they show how intolerant they are with headlines like "Paul Babeu, Arizona Sheriff, Allegedly threatened gay mexican ex-lover with deportation." The man never denied he was gay, never had an affair, and had a relationship with a LEGAL mexican.

Practice what you preach- don't rush to judgment.

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mitchturb said:

Still haven't seen any proof that this Jose guy was illegally here or that he was ever threatened with deportation. I watched the Wolf Blitzer interview yesterday where Paul Babeu put these allegations in context. Jose was a volunteer working on Babeu's campaign and when their relationship went sour, he hijacked the website and social media accounts. He sent out non-authorized messages and tried to steal information about financial donations. Since Jose had an actual business in website management, that would explain Babeu's discussion of 'business' in the text message.

Any proof otherwise?

I sometimes don't understand how much the left loves to demonize the Republican party for having no tolerance and then they show how intolerant they are with headlines like "Paul Babeu, Arizona Sheriff, Allegedly threatened gay mexican ex-lover with deportation." The man never denied he was gay, never had an affair, and had a relationship with a LEGAL mexican.

Practice what you preach- don't rush to judgment.

I get this, and it's a cool and sober viewpoint, but why must the right only have a cool and sober point of view on hypocritical things when they get busted? But for everything else it's loud ginned up spurious mongering?

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Reply #25 posted 02/21/12 10:04am

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V10LETBLUES said:

mitchturb said:

Still haven't seen any proof that this Jose guy was illegally here or that he was ever threatened with deportation. I watched the Wolf Blitzer interview yesterday where Paul Babeu put these allegations in context. Jose was a volunteer working on Babeu's campaign and when their relationship went sour, he hijacked the website and social media accounts. He sent out non-authorized messages and tried to steal information about financial donations. Since Jose had an actual business in website management, that would explain Babeu's discussion of 'business' in the text message.

Any proof otherwise?

I sometimes don't understand how much the left loves to demonize the Republican party for having no tolerance and then they show how intolerant they are with headlines like "Paul Babeu, Arizona Sheriff, Allegedly threatened gay mexican ex-lover with deportation." The man never denied he was gay, never had an affair, and had a relationship with a LEGAL mexican.

Practice what you preach- don't rush to judgment.

I get this, and it's a cool and sober viewpoint, but why must the right only have a cool and sober point of view on hypocritical things when they get busted? But for everything else it's loud ginned up spurious mongering?

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Busted doing what? As far as all evidence and by Babeu's words, he has been openly gay to close friends and relatives for quite some time. He really wasn't hiding anything. Sure, he took the view that his personal business did not need to be a part of his public life, but does that mean he was hiding something? He said immediately that he was, in fact, gay. I just hate these tabloid headlines that could tear apart the career of what seems like a man who is a great role model for so many out there. Sure, he is for a border fence, but that has nothing to do with these allegations.

I take many problems with the title of your thread. Secret, he has never been secretive to those he knows well; illegal immigrant sex, the man is legal by his own admission; and border, hell- the guy isn't even a sheriff of a border county. wink

I just caution you to look who you are tearing apart before you do it. Go after Gingrich, Santorum, etc... all you want, but just because someone affiliates with the GOP doesn't mean they deserve this much mudslinging over a very, very personal matter.

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Reply #26 posted 02/21/12 10:17am

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mitchturb said:

V10LETBLUES said:

I get this, and it's a cool and sober viewpoint, but why must the right only have a cool and sober point of view on hypocritical things when they get busted? But for everything else it's loud ginned up spurious mongering?

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Busted doing what? As far as all evidence and by Babeu's words, he has been openly gay to close friends and relatives for quite some time. He really wasn't hiding anything. Sure, he took the view that his personal business did not need to be a part of his public life, but does that mean he was hiding something? He said immediately that he was, in fact, gay. I just hate these tabloid headlines that could tear apart the career of what seems like a man who is a great role model for so many out there. Sure, he is for a border fence, but that has nothing to do with these allegations.

I take many problems with the title of your thread. Secret, he has never been secretive to those he knows well; illegal immigrant sex, the man is legal by his own admission; and border, hell- the guy isn't even a sheriff of a border county. wink

I just caution you to look who you are tearing apart before you do it. Go after Gingrich, Santorum, etc... all you want, but just because someone affiliates with the GOP doesn't mean they deserve this much mudslinging over a very, very personal matter.

Thats been a running problem on this board for years. Everyone who they dont agree with politically gets mud thrown at them. People delight in it.

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Reply #27 posted 02/21/12 10:19am

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mitchturb said:

V10LETBLUES said:

I get this, and it's a cool and sober viewpoint, but why must the right only have a cool and sober point of view on hypocritical things when they get busted? But for everything else it's loud ginned up spurious mongering?

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Busted doing what? As far as all evidence and by Babeu's words, he has been openly gay to close friends and relatives for quite some time. He really wasn't hiding anything. Sure, he took the view that his personal business did not need to be a part of his public life, but does that mean he was hiding something? He said immediately that he was, in fact, gay. I just hate these tabloid headlines that could tear apart the career of what seems like a man who is a great role model for so many out there. Sure, he is for a border fence, but that has nothing to do with these allegations.

I take many problems with the title of your thread. Secret, he has never been secretive to those he knows well; illegal immigrant sex, the man is legal by his own admission; and border, hell- the guy isn't even a sheriff of a border county. wink

I just caution you to look who you are tearing apart before you do it. Go after Gingrich, Santorum, etc... all you want, but just because someone affiliates with the GOP doesn't mean they deserve this much mudslinging over a very, very personal matter.

No he wasn't even a border Sheriff, but he sure as hell portrayed one on a television commercial. wink

As to his "secret sex life", The dude was cheating on his boyfriend for one.

The hypocrisy? Are you kidding me? The party is famously known for being against gay anything and for being the "Family Values" party. And always being "BUSTED" in compromising positions contrary to these supposed "family values" the party is so found of advertising itself as.

Hell talk about hypocrisy, was it a big deal when a straight man texted a straight woman with a photo of his underpants? This one takes that to the umpteenth level but you think people are being a tad unfair here? lol

True, I will give this guy credit for not lying about the photos,(did he have a choice?) while the other guy lied his ass off.

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http://www.huffingtonpost...04133.html

More questionable still: Babeu's older sister Lucy told the news station that she confronted her brother after finding a 17-year-old student from the school, which services troubled teens, living with him. She noted: “I said what is this student from Desisto doing here? He says, 'Lucy, he's my boyfriend. I love him.'"

Lucy claims her brother, once considered one of his state's rising Republican stars, was clearly having a relationship with the student, who has not been identified: "I said, 'Paul, get a hold of yourself here,'" said Lucy. "You were his teacher! You were his Executive Director! You can't do this."

At age 17, the student would have been the legal age of consent in Massachusetts.

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Apparently Mr. Babeu was sexually abused as a child. We are all a culmination of our experiences.

Paul Babeu was told as child by priest, “Father Lavigne hasn’t broken you in”

by DA Morales on Feb. 22, 2012, under Headline news

Paul Babeu sues Catholic priest for sexual abuse.

Former Berkshire County Commissioner, Paul Babeu, is suing a former priest, accusing him of sexual abuse.

The suit was recently filed by Babeu who now lives in Arizona. It is the eleventh lawsuit filed this year against the Rev. Richard Lavigne.

Springfield Diocese Bishop Thomas Dupre has begun proceedings to defrock Lavigne, who recently completed a ten-year probation sentence.

from December 18, 2002.

SPRINGFIELD – Former Berkshire County Commissioner Paul R. Babeu has reached a settlement with the Roman Catholic Diocese of Burlington, Vt., in a lawsuit stating that he was abused by a Montague native who was serving as a Vermont priest at the time of the alleged incident.

In exchange for Babeu agreeing to drop his suit against the diocese, the Vermont church has agreed to pay “a low amount” of money to Babeu, according to his lawyer Thomas C. Bixby, a member of the Brattleboro, Vt., law firm McCarty Law Offices.

Babeu, 34, who works as a police officer in Chandler, Ariz., said his suit was never about the money.

Nothing can truly erase the harm done by the sexual abuse. I feel the settlement is an acknowledgment of their responsibility in what happened to me,” Babeu said yesterday.

Babeu said that at age 15 he was transported by Springfield diocesan priest the Rev. Richard R. Lavigne to northern Vermont where he was left overnight with the Rev. George Paulin, who sexually abused him.

“When Lavigne dropped me off, and I fought off his advances, he said, ‘Apparently Father Lavigne hasn’t broken you in,’” Babeu said.

from October 16, 2003

“I was a victim of sexual assault when I was a young boy, actually by a priest back in Massachusetts,” Babeu told the website. “That was something that had a dramatic impact on me and my life.”

Babeu said the abuse began at age 11 and continued for several years. He reported the abuse, which altered his views of people in positions of power.

from March 3rd, 2011.

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