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Nepal mass animal sacrifice festival to go ahead Nepal mass animal sacrifice festival to go ahead
Organizers: We won’t let protesters’ ‘interference’ stop Hindu tradition ohhhh. this is very sad, in my opinion 
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KATMANDU, Nepal - A Hindu festival in which hundreds of thousands of animals are expected to be sacrificed will go ahead as scheduled in southern Nepal despite protests, organizers said Friday. The Gadhimai festival, celebrated every five years, is attended by many Hindus from India as well as Nepal. More than 200,000 buffaloes, pigs, goats, chickens and pigeons are expected to be slaughtered this year on Nov. 24 and 25. and this pleases a powerful deity HOW??? and WHY????? Organizers said they will not bow to "interference" from animal rights and religious groups that have held protests in Katmandu and in the festival area in Bara district, about 100 miles south of the capital.
"We will not stop this centuries-old tradition now. This is our religion, belief and tradition and we will continue with it no matter what," said Motilal Kushwa of the organizing committee. no matter what? even if what you are doing is barbaric, cruel and pointless? oh, hey. way to invoke prosperity. NOT Pilgrims arrive
Kushwa said thousands of people have already arrived at the site with animals meant for sacrifice next week. poor creatures. Participants believe that animal sacrifices for the Hindu goddess Gadhimai will end evil and bring prosperity. Many join the festival from the state of Bihar in India, where animal sacrifices have been banned in some areas.
Critics say the killings are barbaric and conducted in a cruel manner. barbaric, cruel, uneducated, primitive, enfeeling, counter-productive, take your pick. imo they all apply. i sincerely doubt the hindu goddess Gadhimai is pleased when a bunch of nasty little primates gather together to kill off a few thousand of her beloved creations. Added security
Government administrator Taranath Gauram said hundreds of extra policemen have been sent to the area to maintain security and officials do not expect trouble during the festival. Ram Bahadur Bamjan, a Nepalese teenager revered by many as a reincarnation of Buddha, has joined the campaign against the animal slaughter and plans to visit the festival area to appeal directly to participants to stop the sacrifices. hope this helps.... Bamjan's followers believe he has been meditating without food and water in the jungles of southern Nepal since 2005. Believers say he spends months without moving, sitting with his eyes closed beneath a tree.  | |
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mind you, i am aware that thousands of turkeys will be slaughtered for a similar purpose on November 24, and 25th. | |
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Mass animal sacrifice happens each day - everyday - everywhere
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XxAxX said: mind you, i am aware that thousands of turkeys will be slaughtered for a similar purpose on November 24, and 25th.
 At least they will get eaten. This is nothing but the true face of religion. Animal sacrifice is one of the ten commandments. Thankfully most of the western people of faith have decided to largely ignore the demands of their god. | |
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instead of saying cheese when I take a picture, Imma say PHIMOSIS | |
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I may have a weird stance on this one...
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CarrieMpls said: I may have a weird stance on this one...
If they're eating the animals and honoring them in some way before they die, I actually feel better about that than the factory farming that goes on here in the good old US of A. Animals that are tortured by lack of care, pumped full of chemicals and fed their own kind and not a thought is given to the sacrifice they make to feed the people of the world.  
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if they are not eating them then I do not see the point. I assume they believe that it will do some good and that it serves a purpose.
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CarrieMpls said: I may have a weird stance on this one...
If they're eating the animals and honoring them in some way before they die, I actually feel better about that than the factory farming that goes on here in the good old US of A. Animals that are tortured by lack of care, pumped full of chemicals and fed their own kind and not a thought is given to the sacrifice they make to feed the people of the world. I know what you're getting at. But killing for no practical end I can never be cool with. [Edited 11/20/09 7:36am] | |
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razor said: CarrieMpls said: I may have a weird stance on this one...
If they're eating the animals and honoring them in some way before they die, I actually feel better about that than the factory farming that goes on here in the good old US of A. Animals that are tortured by lack of care, pumped full of chemicals and fed their own kind and not a thought is given to the sacrifice they make to feed the people of the world. I know what you're getting at. But killing for no practical end I can never be cool with. [Edited 11/20/09 7:36am] Upon further research, it doesn't appear that they're eating the animals. The reports I'm finding all basically say they are brutally slaughtered and that's all it really says - no mention of what is done with the bodies after.
I only mentioned eating as I have heard of that being a regular practice in some smaller religions here - that animals are sacrificed, but then eaten as part of the ritual. In a nice meal, with the family and all... Even though I'm a veggie, that doesn't sound that bad to me. That's all I was getting at. |
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CarrieMpls said: razor said: I know what you're getting at. But killing for no practical end I can never be cool with. [Edited 11/20/09 7:36am] Upon further research, it doesn't appear that they're eating the animals. The reports I'm finding all basically say they are brutally slaughtered and that's all it really says - no mention of what is done with the bodies after.
I only mentioned eating as I have heard of that being a regular practice in some smaller religions here - that animals are sacrificed, but then eaten as part of the ritual. In a nice meal, with the family and all... Even though I'm a veggie, that doesn't sound that bad to me. That's all I was getting at. Gotcha. | |
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If you read the whole article, you will see that they do indeed EAT the meat.
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razor said: XxAxX said: mind you, i am aware that thousands of turkeys will be slaughtered for a similar purpose on November 24, and 25th.
At least they will get eaten. This is nothing but the true face of religion. Animal sacrifice is one of the ten commandments. Thankfully most of the western people of faith have decided to largely ignore the demands of their god. Which one? | |
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XxAxX said: Nepal mass animal sacrifice festival to go ahead
Organizers: We won’t let protesters’ ‘interference’ stop Hindu tradition ohhhh. this is very sad, in my opinion
hope this helps.... Bamjan's followers believe he has been meditating without food and water in the jungles of southern Nepal since 2005. Believers say he spends months without moving, sitting with his eyes closed beneath a tree. Human societies used to use people for the same purposes . . . . | |
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*cough hajj cough* it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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PurpleJedi said: If you read the whole article, you will see that they do indeed EAT the meat.
When you throw the words "ritual" and "sacrifice" into the mix, it does conjure up horrible thoughts. To me, the mass butchering of indigenous men and women in the Americas during the past 500 years to the Gods of European Conquest far outweigh any mass-butchering of livestock in a remote Himalayan kingdom. Primitive? Yes. barbaric, cruel, uneducated, enfeeling, counter-productive? Hardly. PLEASE stay on topic and refrain from side-tracking this thread onto the topic of racism. | |
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XxAxX said: PurpleJedi said: If you read the whole article, you will see that they do indeed EAT the meat.
When you throw the words "ritual" and "sacrifice" into the mix, it does conjure up horrible thoughts. To me, the mass butchering of indigenous men and women in the Americas during the past 500 years to the Gods of European Conquest far outweigh any mass-butchering of livestock in a remote Himalayan kingdom. Primitive? Yes. barbaric, cruel, uneducated, enfeeling, counter-productive? Hardly. PLEASE stay on topic and refrain from side-tracking this thread onto the topic of racism. 
...yeah...racism...OK. That's EXACTLY what I was getting at!  If Prince.Org shuts down, I'm writing SLAVE on my left buttcheek! | |
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The way we kill animals in the states makes me have no problem with this.
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Vendetta1 said: The way we kill animals in the states makes me have no problem with this.
And I agree with you PurpleJedi. I'm hard-pressed to celebrate Thanksgiving tomorrow. It's actually the way we RAISE animals - the ones we wind up eating - that we should have a problem with! If Prince.Org shuts down, I'm writing SLAVE on my left buttcheek! | |
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They believe it will end evil and start prosperity? This kind of thing only increases the amount of evil in the world. I thought hindus didnt believe in killing animals? Yes the animals used for meat in the western world are probably treated far far worse, which I've seen with my own eyes, and I wish more people would be concerened about that as well but thats not going to stop me from getting heated about this as well. It is just so pointless it makes me sick. Are people really that stupid to believe killing will bring them anything but bad karma. How is that meant to bring good into the world? | |
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Arnotts said: They believe it will end evil and start prosperity? This kind of thing only increases the amount of evil in the world. I thought hindus didnt believe in killing animals? Yes the animals used for meat in the western world are probably treated far far worse, which I've seen with my own eyes, and I wish more people would be concerened about that as well but thats not going to stop me from getting heated about this as well. It is just so pointless it makes me sick. Are people really that stupid to believe killing will bring them anything but bad karma. How is that meant to bring good into the world? I think it's hypocritical to talk about how they do things in Nepal when we also mistreat and kills animals. We don't need to eat meat, we just do.
And bringing more evil into the world? What of the innocent people we kill everyday in Iraq and Afghanistan? How we turn a blind eye to poverty and human rights violations in other nations? "Never allow someone to be your priority while allowing yourself to be their option." - Mark Twain
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SUPRMAN said: razor said: At least they will get eaten. This is nothing but the true face of religion. Animal sacrifice is one of the ten commandments. Thankfully most of the western people of faith have decided to largely ignore the demands of their god. Which one? Text: Exodus 34:19-20: The first offspring from every womb belongs to Me, and all your male livestock, the first offspring from cattle and sheep. You shall redeem with a lamb the first offspring of every ass, and if you do not redeem it then you shall break its neck. | |
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Vendetta1 said: Arnotts said: They believe it will end evil and start prosperity? This kind of thing only increases the amount of evil in the world. I thought hindus didnt believe in killing animals? Yes the animals used for meat in the western world are probably treated far far worse, which I've seen with my own eyes, and I wish more people would be concerened about that as well but thats not going to stop me from getting heated about this as well. It is just so pointless it makes me sick. Are people really that stupid to believe killing will bring them anything but bad karma. How is that meant to bring good into the world? I think it's hypocritical to talk about how they do things in Nepal when we also mistreat and kills animals. We don't need to eat meat, we just do.
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Vendetta1 said: Arnotts said: They believe it will end evil and start prosperity? This kind of thing only increases the amount of evil in the world. I thought hindus didnt believe in killing animals? Yes the animals used for meat in the western world are probably treated far far worse, which I've seen with my own eyes, and I wish more people would be concerened about that as well but thats not going to stop me from getting heated about this as well. It is just so pointless it makes me sick. Are people really that stupid to believe killing will bring them anything but bad karma. How is that meant to bring good into the world? I think it's hypocritical to talk about how they do things in Nepal when we also mistreat and kills animals. We don't need to eat meat, we just do.
And bringing more evil into the world? What of the innocent people we kill everyday in Iraq and Afghanistan? How we turn a blind eye to poverty and human rights violations in other nations? I hate how with some people it has to be just one thing or another. Killing innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan is evil, but so is this. God, how is that hard for people to understand? Why do people get so angy when people think animals should have a few basic rights too? Does it threaten peoples sense of superiority or something? That in order to feel like rulers of the world we have to torture animals everyday or accept that it happens and not care? I'm not a hypocrite either. I dont eat meat, or dairy for that matter. So I think its perfectly acceptable for me to be outraged by this as well. | |
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Arnotts said: Vendetta1 said: I think it's hypocritical to talk about how they do things in Nepal when we also mistreat and kills animals. We don't need to eat meat, we just do.
And bringing more evil into the world? What of the innocent people we kill everyday in Iraq and Afghanistan? How we turn a blind eye to poverty and human rights violations in other nations? I hate how with some people it has to be just one thing or another. Killing innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan is evil, but so is this. God, how is that hard for people to understand? Why do people get so angy when people think animals should have a few basic rights too? Does it threaten peoples sense of superiority or something? That in order to feel like rulers of the world we have to torture animals everyday or accept that it happens and not care? I'm not a hypocrite either. I dont eat meat, or dairy for that matter. So I think its perfectly acceptable for me to be outraged by this as well. Angry? No. I just we should fix our problems before we criticize others. "Never allow someone to be your priority while allowing yourself to be their option." - Mark Twain
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Vendetta1 said: Arnotts said: I hate how with some people it has to be just one thing or another. Killing innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan is evil, but so is this. God, how is that hard for people to understand? Why do people get so angy when people think animals should have a few basic rights too? Does it threaten peoples sense of superiority or something? That in order to feel like rulers of the world we have to torture animals everyday or accept that it happens and not care? I'm not a hypocrite either. I dont eat meat, or dairy for that matter. So I think its perfectly acceptable for me to be outraged by this as well. Angry? No. I just we should fix our problems before we criticize others. honestly, you really think there are gonna be tons of threads about the mistreatment of animals on the org? main topics are football, sex and R&B music never gets too deep around here | |
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Vendetta1 said: Arnotts said: They believe it will end evil and start prosperity? This kind of thing only increases the amount of evil in the world. I thought hindus didnt believe in killing animals? Yes the animals used for meat in the western world are probably treated far far worse, which I've seen with my own eyes, and I wish more people would be concerened about that as well but thats not going to stop me from getting heated about this as well. It is just so pointless it makes me sick. Are people really that stupid to believe killing will bring them anything but bad karma. How is that meant to bring good into the world? I think it's hypocritical to talk about how they do things in Nepal when we also mistreat and kills animals. We don't need to eat meat, we just do.
And bringing more evil into the world? What of the innocent people we kill everyday in Iraq and Afghanistan? How we turn a blind eye to poverty and human rights violations in other nations? How is that our responsibility? What should we be doing and how do we pay for it? | |
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razor said: SUPRMAN said: Which one? Text: Exodus 34:19-20: The first offspring from every womb belongs to Me, and all your male livestock, the first offspring from cattle and sheep. You shall redeem with a lamb the first offspring of every ass, and if you do not redeem it then you shall break its neck. So what do you consider the Ten Commandments? That's a new one on me. | |
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SUPRMAN said: Vendetta1 said: I think it's hypocritical to talk about how they do things in Nepal when we also mistreat and kills animals. We don't need to eat meat, we just do.
And bringing more evil into the world? What of the innocent people we kill everyday in Iraq and Afghanistan? How we turn a blind eye to poverty and human rights violations in other nations? How is that our responsibility? What should we be doing and how do we pay for it? We pay for it like we pay for everything else: with money we don't have. "Never allow someone to be your priority while allowing yourself to be their option." - Mark Twain
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Vendetta1 said: SUPRMAN said: How is that our responsibility? What should we be doing and how do we pay for it? We pay for it like we pay for everything else: with money we don't have. That's a flip response but illogical. How did we make it our responsibility? We can't borrow enough to correct the problem and throwing money at it will not solve the problems of poverty and human rights violations. How do you spend money to correct human rights violations? [Edited 11/28/09 20:19pm] | |
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