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Reply #120 posted 11/06/09 1:16pm

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SCNDLS said:

PurpleDiamond2009 said:



clapping some people just dont get it lol

At this point, I can't respond in any other way cuz it's so comical to me. lol



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I know, right?
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Reply #121 posted 11/06/09 1:20pm

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realm said:



Every year the cosmetic industry makes millions from the sale of skin-bleaching Vs. $5 billion from tanning. Tanning is just more relevant, making it more acceptable. The deal is skin cancer is on rise among light skin people. So true you can't even begin to compare them.

Nice try rolleyes

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Reply #122 posted 11/06/09 1:52pm

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DesireeNevermind said:


Also many Indian women, when they come to the states, seem to pursue White men and spurn their Indian men. I see this alot with the twenty-something girls.



LOL... now that is pure bull. It is white men who do the pursuing and not to forget black men either. Indian men come with a ton of garbage oops I meant baggage LOL. I would rather date someone who is responsible,treats me as an equal and with respect.
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Reply #123 posted 11/06/09 2:42pm

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Man, this world is fucked up. And people still go for this shit.
THE DESIRE FOR LIGHT SKIN AND EYES IS NOTHING NEW IN INDIA. THEIR ENTIRE CASTE SYSTEM IS BUILT AROUND FINANCIAL STATUS, RELIGIOUS SECT AND SKIN COLOR. THE DARKEST OF THEIR PEOPLE ARE CONSIDERED "UNTOUCHABLES" AND ARE OFTEN BRUTALIZED. disbelief The message in this commercial is that if she were light skinned she would not have lost her man to another woman. The sad part is, it's probably true.

Carry On!


You need to do some research. Untouchables is a caste and it is illegal now in India. The caste system is very much like the class system. It is a horrible system and is another way for one section of the people to control another.

Lawd Desiree there are many Indians with light skin and green or hazel eyes. My grandmother was practically white with blue eyes!!
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Reply #124 posted 11/06/09 4:54pm

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Now -

we can get past the childish baiting back and forth and let this thread stay on topic so others can continue the discussion

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Reply #125 posted 11/07/09 11:59am

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Reply #126 posted 11/07/09 6:06pm

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Well, it looks like Sammy Sosa might have used a truckload of White Beauty.



Sammy Sosa's Stunning Transformation

Former MLB slugger's skin change is causing speculation about player's health
By TAMER EL-GHOBASHY
Updated 6:00 PM EST, Sat, Nov 7, 2009

It's typical for an athletes' appearance to change after they retire from professional sports -- they pack on a few pounds and age like normal people. But there's something stunningly different about Sammy Sosa's post-baseball look.

Recent photos snapped of the former Chicago Cubs slugger show a shocking transformation: his skin is turning white -- stark white. In addition, he appears to be wearing green contact lenses, which is no big deal compared with the impossible-to-miss pigmentation change.

The above photo shows Sosa on the left at a May 2009 People Magazine event. The right is Sosa, who retired in 2007 with 609 career homers, earlier this week in Las Vegas for the Latin Grammys.

While neither Sosa or anyone close to him has addressed the change in skin tone, baseball bloggers are speculating that it could be some cosmetic lightening process or worse, a side-effect of using performance enhancing drugs -- although there appears to be little to no evidence that steroid use can lead to skin lightening disorder such as vitiligo. In June, the New York Times reported that Sosa tested positive for a banned substance in 2003.

Link http://www.nbcnewyork.com...80167.html

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Reply #127 posted 11/07/09 8:07pm

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BoOTyLiCioUs said:

SCNDLS said:


rolleyes

why are you rollin your eyes at me? [ Bait snip - ]


would you wear a nappy afro weave honey?

wave If you have to do something kicking and screaming and tearing down others with your "self love" words- maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place.
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Reply #128 posted 11/07/09 8:39pm

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Evvy said:

BoOTyLiCioUs said:


why are you rollin your eyes at me? [ Bait snip - ]


would you wear a nappy afro weave honey?



nope, i'm all natural. against all ethicities of women wearing weaves/wigs.

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Reply #129 posted 11/07/09 9:08pm

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dothejump said:

How can an advertising company create something like this? Tsss.

Is there some sort of ethical commission for commercials in the USA? If so, I think they should ban this one for broadcasting.


Hopefully never! There are broadcasting standards but not ethical based, "community standard" based.

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Reply #130 posted 11/08/09 1:01pm

2elijah

Wow, just read part of this article, how sad that this situation is global:
Pic of Indian woman getting her skin bleached


http://www.irinnews.org/r...rtid=18174


PAKISTAN: Focus on skin bleaching
Skin bleaching is a multi-million dollar industry in Pakistan, but not without its dangers
ISLAMABAD, 4 March 2002 (IRIN) - Graduating with a master's degree in science, 23 year-old Nasim Jamil is an attractive young Pakistani lady, but unhappy with her looks. "I am not fair enough," she told IRIN. "White is best," she maintained. Such comments are not uncommon in this Asian country, where skin colour is increasingly being promoted to reflect one's position in society, a phenomenon which has serious implications. Today Jamil is receiving counselling in the Pakistani capital, Islamabad, to improve her self-esteem. "When you ask Pakistani ladies what their idea of an ideal woman is, they will tell you that she should have fair skin," Fozia Yasmin, a clinical psychologist with the Pakistani nongovernmental organisation Rozan, told IRIN. Some 50 percent of women that she had counselled had been concerned about their skin colour, she added.
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Reply #131 posted 11/08/09 1:11pm

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IMO, it all goes back to racism.
I'm so grateful that in the Caribbean, specifically in Grenada - where I am - the stigma of race is long gone.

No-one should be tellin u that your skin colour is not "right" for so and so.

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Reply #132 posted 11/08/09 1:22pm

2elijah

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IMO, it all goes back to racism.
I'm so grateful that in the Caribbean, specifically in Grenada - where I am - the stigma of race is long gone.

No-one should be tellin u that your skin colour is not "right" for so and so.

Jay-Jai, skin lightening is also a major problem throughout different parts of the Caribbean, and mostly within the poorer communities of the Caribbean. What kills me is they are poor, yet going out and purchasing bleach cream. Men and Women are doing this, and some are dying from overuse of skin-bleaching creams poisining their bodies. There's many women in Jamaica and other parts of the Caribbean doing this. Look at this link that was on current tv, that mediatakeout.com posted a while back:

Check out this disturbing video:
http://www.mediatakeout.c...hing_.html
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Reply #133 posted 11/08/09 3:07pm

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2elijah said:

JayJai said:

IMO, it all goes back to racism.
I'm so grateful that in the Caribbean, specifically in Grenada - where I am - the stigma of race is long gone.

No-one should be tellin u that your skin colour is not "right" for so and so.

Jay-Jai, skin lightening is also a major problem throughout different parts of the Caribbean, and mostly within the poorer communities of the Caribbean. What kills me is they are poor, yet going out and purchasing bleach cream. Men and Women are doing this, and some are dying from overuse of skin-bleaching creams poisining their bodies. There's many women in Jamaica and other parts of the Caribbean doing this. Look at this link that was on current tv, that mediatakeout.com posted a while back:

Check out this disturbing video:
http://www.mediatakeout.c...hing_.html
[Edited 11/8/09 13:24pm]

Point taken.

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Reply #134 posted 11/09/09 6:45am

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Men and Women are doing this, and some are dying from overuse of skin-bleaching creams poisining their bodies.


I have zero sympathy for those fools. Natural selection.

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Reply #135 posted 11/09/09 7:21am

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uPtoWnNY said:

2elijah said:

Men and Women are doing this, and some are dying from overuse of skin-bleaching creams poisining their bodies.


I have zero sympathy for those fools. Natural selection.


I hear you. It is a shame though. Lack of education on these creams and the danger it causes to the skin after long term use. I find it is sad that so many people have such low confidence and low self-esteem in themselves, that they resort to extreme measures to basically "erase" what they don't like about themselves. All based on some advertisers/manufacturers' BS or other insecure individuals who make these people feel like their looks are not good enough.

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Reply #136 posted 11/09/09 11:25am

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Do people on here know that India and Pakistan are two different countries? LOL .. amazing BS! yikes! Try google wink
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Reply #137 posted 11/09/09 11:28am

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I feel sorry for the children born to these people. YOu can bleach your skin but not your genes. If a dark skinned child is born to people who have actively tried to lighten their skin, then how will this child ever be genuinely loved? They will grow up feeling inferior under the hands of the very people who should be making them feel loved and feel valued among society. So very sad.

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Reply #138 posted 11/09/09 11:31am

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Maybe it is makeup and flash?
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Reply #139 posted 11/09/09 11:34am

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I feel sorry for the children born to these people. YOu can bleach your skin but not your genes. If a dark skinned child is born to people who have actively tried to lighten their skin, then how will this child ever be genuinely loved? They will grow up feeling inferior under the hands of the very people who should be making them feel loved and feel valued among society. So very sad.

clapping Exactly, and I agree, it is so very sad.

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Reply #140 posted 11/09/09 11:37am

2elijah

This sh*t is global:

http://www.associatedcont...or_in.html

Perception of Race and Skin Color in Pakistan
January 29, 2009 by Heather Carreiro Heather Carreiro



The most popular beauty product in Pakistan is Fair and Lovely cream. Recently, this company has come up with a skin-bleaching product for men called Fair and Handsome. The commercials show a darker skinned young man sulking because he can't get a date. After putting on the cream, his skin tone becomes quite a bit lighter. Suddenly the scene changes and he's a glowing white-faced man surrounded by supermodels
. Even Indian actor Shahrukh Khan has starred in a Fair and Handsome commercial, bringing him a lot of flack from the more Westernized Indian press.

Many Pakistanis, and their Indian neighbors, are obsessed with the desire to be white. Women stay out of the sun, get whitening facials, and wear powder white makeup for their wedding pictures. The less sophisticated end up looking like ghosts with bright white faces in the photo albums. When parents are looking for a bride from their son, they will certainly be looking for a girl who is fair skinned. Pakistanis usually consider the Pashtuns and the Kashmiris to be among the most attractive of the local people. Both of these people groups have fairer skin than many other Pakistani peoples.

Women desire to be fair skinned for good reason, as it seems the majority of local men are more attracted to lighter skinned beauties. In Bangkok's red light district, there is an entire area catering to Pakistani, Indian, and Middle Eastern men. The women working there are not Thai, but Central Asian women with lighter skin. Combine this reality with Hollywood movies and pornography, and you end up with scores of Pakistani men who can only associate fair skinned women with prostitution and loose morals. Those Pakistanis who have lived and worked abroad in the West for longer periods of time know otherwise, but unfortunately the majority of the population has a strong association of white women as harlots....


I am shocked at the last sentence...

To continue reading, click on link above.

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Reply #141 posted 11/09/09 11:47am

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I think the whole skin color thing,whether your talking about tanning or bleaching has alot to do with class. Back in the 19th century wealthy whites saw tanning as a sign of working outdoors. That later changed with the leisure class going to resorts and such, Then it became a sign of having money.
I think lighter skinned people have always been more acceptable to white people. I am white and my mom was a very dark skinned Italian with an Irish looking sister. Her lighter sister mingled more easily with other european imigrants than she did. I think lighter skinned latinos, African American and Indians usually find jobs more easily than their darker sisters and brothers. Look at the acting and modeling community. There are exceptions to that rule,like Naomi Cambell and those exceptions worked their asses of to beat the odds. Who wouldn't want to be lighter if that's where the money is?? It's truly sad. Beauty wise my mother had it all over her sisters but she was very self concious much of her life.

My mothers first love was a dark skinned Lebanese man. His mother pulled the two of them aside and said " You're both dark, you can't marry. You will end up with dark kids. Do you want that for your children?" This was maybe 1950. The pair broke up. She ended up married to a very pale wife beater. Crazy.

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Reply #142 posted 11/09/09 11:55am

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Deadflow3r said:

I think the whole skin color thing,whether your talking about tanning or bleaching has alot to do with class. Back in the 19th century wealthy whites saw tanning as a sign of working outdoors. That later changed with the leisure class going to resorts and such, Then it became a sign of having money.
I think lighter skinned people have always been more acceptable to white people. I am white and my mom was a very dark skinned Italian with an Irish looking sister. Her lighter sister mingled more easily with other european imigrants than she did. I think lighter skinned latinos, African American and Indians usually find jobs more easily than their darker sisters and brothers. Look at the acting and modeling community. There are exceptions to that rule,like Naomi Cambell and those exceptions worked their asses of to beat the odds. Who wouldn't want to be lighter if that's where the money is?? It's truly sad. Beauty wise my mother had it all over her sisters but she was very self concious much of her life.

My mothers first love was a dark skinned Lebanese man. His mother pulled the two of them aside and said " You're both dark, you can't marry. You will end up with dark kids. Do you want that for your children?" This was maybe 1950. The pair broke up. She ended up married to a very pale wife beater. Crazy.



But what's even more crazy is that darker people make up the majority of the world population. There are more people on this planet with dark hair, eyes and skin than there are fair, blonde and blue eyed people. In fact, the fair population is not only small in comparison but are actually shrinking in number. Why does this color barrier still exist? Your mom should have been the one that everybody flocked to.

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Reply #143 posted 11/09/09 1:53pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Deadflow3r said:

I think the whole skin color thing,whether your talking about tanning or bleaching has alot to do with class. Back in the 19th century wealthy whites saw tanning as a sign of working outdoors. That later changed with the leisure class going to resorts and such, Then it became a sign of having money.
I think lighter skinned people have always been more acceptable to white people. I am white and my mom was a very dark skinned Italian with an Irish looking sister. Her lighter sister mingled more easily with other european imigrants than she did. I think lighter skinned latinos, African American and Indians usually find jobs more easily than their darker sisters and brothers. Look at the acting and modeling community. There are exceptions to that rule,like Naomi Cambell and those exceptions worked their asses of to beat the odds. Who wouldn't want to be lighter if that's where the money is?? It's truly sad. Beauty wise my mother had it all over her sisters but she was very self concious much of her life.

My mothers first love was a dark skinned Lebanese man. His mother pulled the two of them aside and said " You're both dark, you can't marry. You will end up with dark kids. Do you want that for your children?" This was maybe 1950. The pair broke up. She ended up married to a very pale wife beater. Crazy.



But what's even more crazy is that darker people make up the majority of the world population. There are more people on this planet with dark hair, eyes and skin than there are fair, blonde and blue eyed people. In fact, the fair population is not only small in comparison but are actually shrinking in number. Why does this color barrier still exist? Your mom should have been the one that everybody flocked to.

Just look at Brazil, MOST of their population are black people yet these ideas persist down there. confused

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Reply #144 posted 11/09/09 2:01pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

But what's even more crazy is that darker people make up the majority of the world population. There are more people on this planet with dark hair, eyes and skin than there are fair, blonde and blue eyed people. In fact, the fair population is not only small in comparison but are actually shrinking in number. Why does this color barrier still exist? Your mom should have been the one that everybody flocked to.


But who are the power brokers?

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Reply #145 posted 11/10/09 10:41am

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uPtoWnNY said:

DesireeNevermind said:

But what's even more crazy is that darker people make up the majority of the world population. There are more people on this planet with dark hair, eyes and skin than there are fair, blonde and blue eyed people. In fact, the fair population is not only small in comparison but are actually shrinking in number. Why does this color barrier still exist? Your mom should have been the one that everybody flocked to.


But who are the power brokers?



Power shifts though and the due date for the tide to go the other way has long past. I just wonder when people are going to wake up. It's especially hard for India I know because their caste system and colorism goes back to the Aryans who pitted light against dark thousands of years ago. Remember India invented the swastika. Of course it used to be a symbol of peace and Hitler, knnowing of India's history, changed it into a symbol of Aryan and white power.

I'm digressing a bit I know but what I'm trying to say is:

whatever happened to power in numbers?

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Reply #146 posted 11/10/09 11:51am

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whatever happened to power in numbers?


Whoever has the gold(and the guns) makes the rules.

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Reply #147 posted 11/10/09 1:06pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

DesireeNevermind said:

whatever happened to power in numbers?


Whoever has the gold(and the guns) makes the rules.

Don't forget the drugs. An easy way to destroy and divide any community.
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Reply #148 posted 11/11/09 2:26am

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2elijah said:

uPtoWnNY said:



Whoever has the gold(and the guns) makes the rules.

Don't forget the drugs. An easy way to destroy and divide any community.
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Reply #149 posted 11/11/09 4:06pm

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It's a frigging COMMERCIAL. You are reading way too much into it. There is going to always be something if you look hard enough for it... confused

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