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Evvy

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Now That Halloween is Over- so as not to offend anyone

those who do celebrate- why do you? those who don't- why don't you?

I don't because of the satanic overtones and pagan origins- I would never allow my (future)children to either- it's not "innocent fun" to me....

and you?

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Reply #1 posted 11/02/09 6:04am

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its the last big outdoors bang until winter is over? fart

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Reply #2 posted 11/02/09 6:04am

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because it's candy! also i'm not religious...

'you know i'm deep fried'
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Reply #3 posted 11/02/09 6:10am

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Cuddles said:

its the last big outdoors bang until winter is over? fart

You don't celebrate Carnival? hmmm

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Reply #4 posted 11/02/09 6:12am

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I do .. because of the Pagan origins lol

A perfect way to honour our Ancestors - to celebrate our harvests of what we have sown and celebrate the cycles of life

Yeah - Samhain ( Halloween ) is one of the most sacred sabbats

I'm not offended at all by your perspectives or choices _ i just do not agree is all

peace!

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Reply #5 posted 11/02/09 6:26am

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Mach said:

I do .. because of the Pagan origins lol

A perfect way to honour our Ancestors - to celebrate our harvests of what we have sown and celebrate the cycles of life

Yeah - Samhain ( Halloween ) is one of the most sacred sabbats

I'm not offended at all by your perspectives or choices _ i just do not agree is all

peace!

it's interesting - celebrating a tradition and belief that the dead will come back to haunt you-yet to avoid being saught out- you yourself must dress up and decorate your house to scare them away.

I would like to think that if anyone dead comes back to life it would be under the pretext of ressurection and not to scare the bajeezus out of me with rotting flesh and secret powers....
...that's all- i wouldn't want anyone to be scared like that- i beleive that only evil forces would encourage that type of stuff- like the occult and

today's commercialism has watered the tradition down and sugared it up so that people like yourself would not give it a second thought

wave If you have to do something kicking and screaming and tearing down others with your "self love" words- maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place.
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Reply #6 posted 11/02/09 6:35am

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Evvy said:

Mach said:

I do .. because of the Pagan origins lol

A perfect way to honour our Ancestors - to celebrate our harvests of what we have sown and celebrate the cycles of life

Yeah - Samhain ( Halloween ) is one of the most sacred sabbats

I'm not offended at all by your perspectives or choices _ i just do not agree is all

peace!

it's interesting - celebrating a tradition and belief that the dead will come back to haunt you-yet to avoid being saught out- you yourself must dress up and decorate your house to scare them away.

I would like to think that if anyone dead comes back to life it would be under the pretext of ressurection and not to scare the bajeezus out of me with rotting flesh and secret powers....
...that's all- i wouldn't want anyone to be scared like that- i beleive that only evil forces would encourage that type of stuff- like the occult and

today's commercialism has watered the tradition down and sugared it up so that people like yourself would not give it a second thought


Seriously ?

you do not know me

"people like you"

you do not know my intentions lol

your assumptions just spilled forth and that's okay ...


"so as not to offend anyone"

Indeed ...

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Reply #7 posted 11/02/09 6:35am

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Evvy said:

Mach said:

I do .. because of the Pagan origins lol

A perfect way to honour our Ancestors - to celebrate our harvests of what we have sown and celebrate the cycles of life

Yeah - Samhain ( Halloween ) is one of the most sacred sabbats

I'm not offended at all by your perspectives or choices _ i just do not agree is all

peace!

it's interesting - celebrating a tradition and belief that the dead will come back to haunt you-yet to avoid being saught out- you yourself must dress up and decorate your house to scare them away.

I would like to think that if anyone dead comes back to life it would be under the pretext of ressurection and not to scare the bajeezus out of me with rotting flesh and secret powers....
...that's all- i wouldn't want anyone to be scared like that- i beleive that only evil forces would encourage that type of stuff- like the occult and

today's commercialism has watered the tradition down and sugared it up so that people like yourself would not give it a second thought




I think you are taking the holiday to literally... It USED to be to scare away evil spirits, but are we really worried about that in todays times? I think anymore its just a way for people to dress up and act silly! I mean really, what does a christmas tree have to do with christmas...NOTHING!

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Reply #8 posted 11/02/09 6:39am

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sometimes I do...just for fun.

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Reply #9 posted 11/02/09 6:55am

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I take part in halloween b/c its just a FUN thing to do for kids. People shouldnt take it so sereously.(sp)

when i was a kid i never connected halloween with satanism...all that mattered was my costume & CANDY....lol razz

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Reply #10 posted 11/02/09 6:58am

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Evvy said:

those who do celebrate- why do you? those who don't- why don't you?

I don't because of the satanic overtones and pagan origins- I would never allow my (future)children to either- it's not "innocent fun" to me....

and you?



What is it that you imagine would happen to them if they did?

"It is an established maxim and moral that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false is guilty of falsehood, and the accidental truth of the assertion does not justify or excuse him"

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Reply #11 posted 11/02/09 7:03am

Evvy

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Mach said:

Evvy said:


it's interesting - celebrating a tradition and belief that the dead will come back to haunt you-yet to avoid being saught out- you yourself must dress up and decorate your house to scare them away.

I would like to think that if anyone dead comes back to life it would be under the pretext of ressurection and not to scare the bajeezus out of me with rotting flesh and secret powers....
...that's all- i wouldn't want anyone to be scared like that- i beleive that only evil forces would encourage that type of stuff- like the occult and

today's commercialism has watered the tradition down and sugared it up so that people like yourself would not give it a second thought


Seriously ?

you do not know me

"people like you"

you do not know my intentions lol

your assumptions just spilled forth and that's okay ...


"so as not to offend anyone"

Indeed ...

'people like you'= folks who are not bothered by it but who embrace it- as you stated in your post- I didn't put those words in your mouth Mach but when I repeated in detailed what you smoothed over- you got defensive.....

wave If you have to do something kicking and screaming and tearing down others with your "self love" words- maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place.
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Reply #12 posted 11/02/09 7:07am

Evvy

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sonic said:

I take part in halloween b/c its just a FUN thing to do for kids. People shouldnt take it so sereously.(sp)

when i was a kid i never connected halloween with satanism...all that mattered was my costume & CANDY....lol razz

that's what most people say- and I thouroughly understand but

if the KKK were to begin a children's day where they dressed up in white hoodies and passed out candies- the origins of it would bother me...I wouldn't run to Walgreens's and pick up costumes for my family endorsing it-

my point is I don't believe in the occult- dead corpses walking the earth to scare people- just as I don't believe in hanging people from trees to scare them

so its something that I personally don't endorse... and was curious to know why others did

wave If you have to do something kicking and screaming and tearing down others with your "self love" words- maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place.
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Reply #13 posted 11/02/09 7:09am

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razor said:

Evvy said:

those who do celebrate- why do you? those who don't- why don't you?

I don't because of the satanic overtones and pagan origins- I would never allow my (future)children to either- it's not "innocent fun" to me....

and you?



What is it that you imagine would happen to them if they did?



I do believe that demonism is real- so to an extent you can allow evil forces into your life

wave If you have to do something kicking and screaming and tearing down others with your "self love" words- maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place.
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Reply #14 posted 11/02/09 7:13am

razor

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razor said:




What is it that you imagine would happen to them if they did?



I do believe that demonism is real- so to an extent you can allow evil forces into your life



Well, then I guess the answer to your question "those who do, why do you? is broadly because they do not in any way share your beliefs.

"It is an established maxim and moral that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false is guilty of falsehood, and the accidental truth of the assertion does not justify or excuse him"

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Reply #15 posted 11/02/09 7:17am

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razor said:

Evvy said:




I do believe that demonism is real- so to an extent you can allow evil forces into your life



Well, then I guess the answer to your question "those who do, why do you? is broadly because they do not in any way share your beliefs.

thats true- but if I didn't know anything about it- I wouldn't believe in it either- some people simply don't know...

wave If you have to do something kicking and screaming and tearing down others with your "self love" words- maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place.
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Reply #16 posted 11/02/09 7:18am

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I LOOOOOVE Halloween.

I don’t believe in satan or ghosts or demons, but I enjoy the stories of the holiday’s origin. I like holidays and traditions and rituals, even if I don’t believe in what they were originally about.

And I like dressing up as someone else and celebrating with friends. That’s the best part of any holiday, really – spending time with loved ones. And Halloween for me is as much a time for that as any holiday. My friends and I had a whole super fun evening planned. I had a great time.

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Reply #17 posted 11/02/09 7:20am

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Evvy said:

Mach said:



Seriously ?

you do not know me

"people like you"

you do not know my intentions lol

your assumptions just spilled forth and that's okay ...


"so as not to offend anyone"

Indeed ...

'people like you'= folks who are not bothered by it but who embrace it- as you stated in your post- I didn't put those words in your mouth Mach but when I repeated in detailed what you smoothed over- you got defensive.....


I said : A perfect way to honour our Ancestors - to celebrate our harvests of what we have sown and celebrate the cycles of life

Yeah - Samhain ( Halloween ) is one of the most sacred sabbats


you said : i beleive that only evil forces would encourage that type of stuff- like the occult and ...

My traditions have zero to do with "evil" and fear and everything to do about honouring and greatfullness

and I really was not trying to come across as defensive I was laughing all the way through

your mind is set as is mine - you see evil I see beauty in an occasion to celebrate those that came before us, the bounty and harvests of life and the cycles that fule us

no worries peace!

The Whorg - org whores unite !

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Reply #18 posted 11/02/09 7:21am

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tinaz said:

Evvy said:


it's interesting - celebrating a tradition and belief that the dead will come back to haunt you-yet to avoid being saught out- you yourself must dress up and decorate your house to scare them away.

I would like to think that if anyone dead comes back to life it would be under the pretext of ressurection and not to scare the bajeezus out of me with rotting flesh and secret powers....
...that's all- i wouldn't want anyone to be scared like that- i beleive that only evil forces would encourage that type of stuff- like the occult and

today's commercialism has watered the tradition down and sugared it up so that people like yourself would not give it a second thought




I think you are taking the holiday to literally... It USED to be to scare away evil spirits, but are we really worried about that in todays times? I think anymore its just a way for people to dress up and act silly! I mean really, what does a christmas tree have to do with christmas...NOTHING!


ur on 2 something...my thoughts exsactly

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Reply #19 posted 11/02/09 7:43am

razor

Evvy said:

razor said:




Well, then I guess the answer to your question "those who do, why do you? is broadly because they do not in any way share your beliefs.

thats true- but if I didn't know anything about it- I wouldn't believe in it either- some people simply don't know...


I would imagine that the vast majority of people who celebrate it do not "beleive" in anything. It's just an occasion to have fun for most.

"It is an established maxim and moral that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false is guilty of falsehood, and the accidental truth of the assertion does not justify or excuse him"

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Reply #20 posted 11/02/09 7:56am

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Evvy said:

those who do celebrate- why do you? those who don't- why don't you?

I don't because of the satanic overtones and pagan origins- I would never allow my (future)children to either- it's not "innocent fun" to me....

and you?



Do you celebrate Christmas?

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Reply #21 posted 11/02/09 7:57am

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Mach said:

Evvy said:


'people like you'= folks who are not bothered by it but who embrace it- as you stated in your post- I didn't put those words in your mouth Mach but when I repeated in detailed what you smoothed over- you got defensive.....


I said : A perfect way to honour our Ancestors - to celebrate our harvests of what we have sown and celebrate the cycles of life

Yeah - Samhain ( Halloween ) is one of the most sacred sabbats


you said : i beleive that only evil forces would encourage that type of stuff- like the occult and ...

My traditions have zero to do with "evil" and fear and everything to do about honouring and greatfullness

and I really was not trying to come across as defensive I was laughing all the way through

your mind is set as is mine - you see evil I see beauty in an occasion to celebrate those that came before us, the bounty and harvests of life and the cycles that fule us

no worries peace!



And people still think that the pentacle is a satanist symbol.....

MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" PM "This thread is like a sexual orientation hall of mirrors"
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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

Mach said:



I said : A perfect way to honour our Ancestors - to celebrate our harvests of what we have sown and celebrate the cycles of life

Yeah - Samhain ( Halloween ) is one of the most sacred sabbats


you said : i beleive that only evil forces would encourage that type of stuff- like the occult and ...

My traditions have zero to do with "evil" and fear and everything to do about honouring and greatfullness

and I really was not trying to come across as defensive I was laughing all the way through

your mind is set as is mine - you see evil I see beauty in an occasion to celebrate those that came before us, the bounty and harvests of life and the cycles that fule us

no worries peace!



And people still think that the pentacle is a satanist symbol.....


Indeed some do and some are miseducated and some just assume ...

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Reply #23 posted 11/02/09 8:01am

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Mach said:

MIGUELGOMEZ said:




And people still think that the pentacle is a satanist symbol.....


Indeed some do and some are miseducated and some just assume ...



Let's not forget the persecution of women believed to be witches, in the name of a Christian God.

Don't get me started, don't even get me started.....lol

MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" PM "This thread is like a sexual orientation hall of mirrors"
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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

Mach said:



Indeed some do and some are miseducated and some just assume ...



Let's not forget the persecution of women believed to be witches, in the name of a Christian God.

Don't get me started, don't even get me started.....lol


eek This thread is taking a turn towards P&R


smile

lol

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Reply #25 posted 11/02/09 8:11am

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It really bothers me when people ask such a question out of "curiosity" and then are so quick to jump up on their soapbox to preach.... Ask your question, get your answer, then say THANK YOU...

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OOH! This thread reminds me, I've got a goat's head in the oven! omfg

You know how the Dark Lord can be if you overcook the offerings. rolleyes

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Reply #27 posted 11/02/09 8:12am

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johnart said:

OOH! This thread reminds me, I've got a goat's head in the oven! omfg

You know how the Dark Lord can be if you overcook the offerings. rolleyes



lol highfive

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Reply #28 posted 11/02/09 8:19am

razor

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OOH! This thread reminds me, I've got a goat's head in the oven! omfg

You know how the Dark Lord can be if you overcook the offerings. rolleyes


Tip: Marinade with a garlic and rosemary sauce, turn oven down to 120 degress and slow roast for 3 hours. Comes out more tender that way.....so I've heard..

"It is an established maxim and moral that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false is guilty of falsehood, and the accidental truth of the assertion does not justify or excuse him"

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Reply #29 posted 11/02/09 8:22am

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razor said:

johnart said:

OOH! This thread reminds me, I've got a goat's head in the oven! omfg

You know how the Dark Lord can be if you overcook the offerings. rolleyes


Tip: Marinade with a garlic and rosemary sauce, turn oven down to 120 degress and slow roast for 3 hours. Comes out more tender that way.....so I've heard..


I'm drizzling it ever so slightly with some puree of kitten-innards, for a little extra "tang".

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