"People might be genetically better off if they were mixed race."

http://www.telegraph.co.u...world.html


Just two weeks ago in Louisiana, an American Justice of the Peace made international news for refusing to issue marriage licences to couples who were not of the same race. He said he had taken the decision because he believed that mixed-race children would not be accepted by their parents' communities. Whether this was genuine concern for a real social problem or was born of a more atavistic notion that there is something inherently, biologically wrong with mixing races, we can only speculate. Either way, his position was quite illegal, and his conduct is being challenged.

The sentiment, however, is one that is also shared much closer to home. Nick Griffin, the chairman of the BNP and a member of the European Parliament, has made his party's stance on mixed-race children clear. Miscegenation, he says, is "essentially unnatural and destructive", and mixed-race children "are the most tragic victims of enforced multi-racism". The BNP says that it does not, nor will it ever, "accept miscegenation as moral or normal".

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As the mother of a mixed-race child and as a scientist, I wanted to challenge these ideas of racial purity

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There is now good evidence that the more genetically diverse among us are indeed more likely to be more attractive, have better physical health, and more robust mental health, too.


Read article for fuller details.

This makes some intuitive sense to me i.e. we've known for some time that diversity in genetics tends to increase survival chances. However, I don;t take this as the author trying to demonstrate that one group of people (i.e. mixed race) are "better" than another (i.e. more racially inbred), as some readers have (see comments below article, some of which are shocking btw). Its more about science refuting claims that being mixed race is somehow inherently inferior. All this kind of study does is show that thinking to be baseless and illogical. Thoughts?
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Well dogs of pure race seem to have more healthissues than of mixed race. So why not.

But "pure" race...is there such thing? Amongst humans? Is this purely based on skincolour? In the end we all come from africa, so somewhere in time a great, great, great, great, grandfather of mine is black (and more hairy). These BNP figures are pathetic btw with there "pure race" shit. They haven't got a clue, how migration through the thousends of years has mingeled us all into a big spectrum of differences and similarities. And race itself, may never be a guideline by which to devide people, certainly not in legal issues.

mordang said:

That's why I'm glad I'm mixed. I guess I could consider myself a genetically diverse god-like race of my own.

seriously.

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Imago said:

razor said:

Imago said:

That's why I'm glad I'm mixed. I guess I could consider myself a genetically diverse god-like race of my own.

seriously.

You look like an old white man with a white beard? Not very mixed..

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Imago said:

razor said:

You look like an old white man with a white beard? Not very mixed..

I hope you mean my avatar, cause if not, then I've just lost what little confidence I had in my looks

razor said:

Imago said:

I hope you mean my avatar, cause if not, then I've just lost what little confidence I had in my looks

You avatar is not very god-like though. Poddle-like? Yes; God-like? No. Well at least not as your fellow countrymen like to imagine him (me, I think the poddle look is equally feasible). So I'm afraid you either are not god-like, or you're ugly. Choose your destroyer..
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Imago said:

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A working class hero is something to be...

"Genetically better off". That isn't vague or anything.

I'm screwing off in lab and didn't read the whole article. She isn't mentioning eradicating racism by having as many "mixed-colored offspring" as possible, is she?

The thing that bothers me most is any self-proclaimed scientist using the word "race" at all. I know it's probably unintentional or used for clarity as the average subscriber reads at a 6th grade level and all that jazz, but Christ. Race, race, race. Might as well say "breed".

I've got more in common genetically with my recently-uprooted African classmates than half of my home-grown classmates.

RenHoek said:

Imago said:

Oh hell, I'll take ugly and god-like. I'm sorry but who needs to look like Tyson Beckford when you can just put a spell up on a bitch with your god powers.

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But what if both races that were coming together to make a baby had genetic abnormalities? the child might have more health problems than if they were not mixed. I think it's about genetic health of the individual. Two people who have diabetes and heart disease in their family are just two people who have diabetes and heart disease in their family...race becomes irrelevant. I would think no matter who your partner is, you might want to undergo genetic testing if there are concerns that your offspring would have a predisposition to some disease.

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INSATIABLE said:

"Genetically better off". That isn't vague or anything.

I'm screwing off in lab and didn't read the whole article. She isn't mentioning eradicating racism by having as many "mixed-colored offspring" as possible, is she?

The thing that bothers me most is any self-proclaimed scientist using the word "race" at all. I know it's probably unintentional or used for clarity as the average subscriber reads at a 6th grade level and all that jazz, but Christ. Race, race, race. Might as well say "breed".

I've got more in common genetically with my recently-uprooted African classmates than half of my home-grown classmates.

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razor said:

TonyVanDam said:

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This is just some article written by some parent that hope the kid will be the next Derek Jeter, Prince or Obama. Who knows? The odds of the kid being outstanding: rockstar, scientist that cures cancer, major league ballplayer, model, the President...its slim. It likely won't happen!

I can see this doctor watching kid play football in HS and thinking they will be in the NFL someday. Not gonna happen. Likely, your kid sucks at football.

Everyone loves there kids and at some point thinks they will be great and change the world but they likely will suck! Suck like the rest of us. What we need are lower expectations!! Pushing the kids into something that we know they can do. Banker, Cop, Figherfighter, Plumber, Mover all good things. And maybe someday they will be Fire Chiefs, own a plumbing company, own a moving business, Commanders, Manage Funds etc.

I've seen these doctors kids. Known one. One that constantly got bailed out of trouble. Actually the kid is serving time in prison. Rolled a car killed two people, got busted with crack..everytime parents bailed out the brat. While kids like me paid the price for the crime. Finally he robbed a bank for drug money and daddy couldn't buy off the judge. I bet his ass is sore in prison now.

Not saying that the kid will get into trouble but if you go into with the lil fucker can do no wrong your setting up for disaster.

There's really no such thing as a "pure" race.

That said, so-called race mixing can only be good for humanity on a genetic level, as it does allow for a wider variety. Isolated gene groups, whether they be in humans or in other animals, do tend to produce genetic problems after a time. Re-population efforts for many wild animals species often involve introducing new animals to strange packs or herds for this very reason.

So come on, folks. Grab somebody of a different hue and start humping.

genetically better? how does diet, physical environment, etc. fit into this equation?

meow85 said:

There's really no such thing as a "pure" race.

That said, so-called race mixing can only be good for humanity on a genetic level, as it does allow for a wider variety. Isolated gene groups, whether they be in humans or in other animals, do tend to produce genetic problems after a time. Re-population efforts for many wild animals species often involve introducing new animals to strange packs or herds for this very reason.

So come on, folks. Grab somebody of a different hue and start humping.

In light of this thread, I do urge anyone to read "The Selfish Gene" by Dawkins.

Anybody know more about the Basque population of France? I've read in the past that they do not intermix with any other groups. They are known to have very pronounced cheekbones and have virtually no A blood type in the gene pool and supposedly don't succumb to cancer as much as other European populations. They tend to not marry outside their ethnic group/race although they have no problem branching out into other geographical areas. They are supposed to be one of the oldest ethnicities in France.

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meow85 said:

Grab somebody of a different hue and start humping.

I have four interracial nephews. One is extremely smart for his age, another is extremely dumb for his age. Two are fat and two are thin. Three are brown skinned, one is lighter skinned.

Interracial folks are just like everyone else. There are all kinds....even in the same family.

vainandy said:

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Eventually all people probably will be mixed.

except for the morlocks who will no doubt start eating us all.

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