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realm

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15 yr old Girl Gang Raped after High School Dance



Where is society spiritually? How could this happen? and go on for hours?



Will this be considered a hate crime??

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Reply #1 posted 10/30/09 1:45pm

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I'm still shock that there were witnesses there that actually WATCH most of the incident and no one did anything to stop it, NOT even a 911 phone call.

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Reply #2 posted 10/30/09 2:29pm

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It was a student who did call 911.
He was not a witness however, he heard about what was going on.

How could this happen?
No one teaches children that the world is about more than what they want at the moment.
All advertising does it teach that you should have what you want now, not later.
Anyone suggesting otherwise is attacking a child's self-esteem . . . .

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Reply #3 posted 10/30/09 2:53pm

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TonyVanDam said:

I'm still shock that there were witnesses there that actually WATCH most of the incident and no one did anything to stop it, NOT even a 911 phone call.



Yeah. I came across this story a few days ago. It was sad. There were reports that people were encouraging the attack to continue. Folks were coming to watch!! How sick can you get?

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Reply #4 posted 10/30/09 3:25pm

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SUPRMAN said:

It was a student who did call 911.
He was not a witness however, he heard about what was going on.


after what? 2.5 hours and word spread into the dance.

SUPRMAN said:

How could this happen?
No one teaches children that the world is about more than what they want at the moment.
All advertising does it teach that you should have what you want now, not later.
Anyone suggesting otherwise is attacking a child's self-esteem . . . .


The advertising theory IMO falls quickly. I would never blame advertising on a group of kids participating in a gangbang rape. Something is off 'spiritually' for that number of kids to want to participate. As in advertising do you mean, the high degree of violence, mixed with porn that kids are exposed to these days???? I can tell you I was more interested in sports, prince music! etc when I was a kid. So I just can't even understand how someone could even participate in gangbanging someone while a large group watches??!

Even take out the aspect of rape. The # of people involved would be a turn off. But given that is someones 'thing' you mix in that this is a rape!! and no fucking way. No-no-no. Something is way off! This makes me want to further not be trusting of people in general.

And also for people to just watch and record like its some event for youtube. Thats just messed up.

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Reply #5 posted 10/31/09 8:19pm

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I can guarantee that some form of "Snitching" bullshit is gonna come up in this case, but you notice that KIDS all can text with lighting speed, and can fucking tweet stupid shit, and yet no one can call 911. I am praying that everyone who watched this unfold, stood there, cheered on, does time, and if its not in the laws in LA, then the people of LA should push for it, and if they still dont get it, I HOPE that what i hear is true, the family of this girl is going to sue the school, the lawmakers, and you can bet that if they get the names of people they will sue bystanders too, and if you think a jury wont be sympathetic and rule for the girl, you are nuts, all these families of these "bystanders" better be ready to pay some serious money, this kid is gonna own them now.


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Reply #6 posted 10/31/09 9:24pm

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lastdecember said:

I can guarantee that some form of "Snitching" bullshit is gonna come up in this case, but you notice that KIDS all can text with lighting speed, and can fucking tweet stupid shit, and yet no one can call 911. I am praying that everyone who watched this unfold, stood there, cheered on, does time, and if its not in the laws in LA, then the people of LA should push for it, and if they still dont get it, I HOPE that what i hear is true, the family of this girl is going to sue the school, the lawmakers, and you can bet that if they get the names of people they will sue bystanders too, and if you think a jury wont be sympathetic and rule for the girl, you are nuts, all these families of these "bystanders" better be ready to pay some serious money, this kid is gonna own them now.

Richmond, CA is in the S.F. Bay Area, north of Oakland.
What are you suing bystanders for? How are they liable?
The civil case against the school is negligence. There is no criminal liability attached to the school.
I think it will settle and not go to trial civilly. There will of course, be a criminal trial.

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Reply #7 posted 10/31/09 9:58pm

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TonyVanDam said:

I'm still shock that there were witnesses there that actually WATCH most of the incident and no one did anything to stop it, NOT even a 911 phone call.


probably too busy video taping it like they were with that boy in chicago.

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Reply #8 posted 10/31/09 10:32pm

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in a story i read earlier in the week about this.


it's a psychological phenomenon that people think someone else will do something so they end up not doing something. the larger the group that gathers the more likely that kind of thinking happens.

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Reply #9 posted 11/01/09 12:35am

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I just can't get over how this could devolope? To see someone in distress makes me sick to my stomack. Wasn't there even one bystander there thinking, "This is wrong!"?

I wonder what these kids have learned from there parents?

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Reply #10 posted 11/01/09 1:17am

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mordang said:

I just can't get over how this could devolope? To see someone in distress makes me sick to my stomack. Wasn't there even one bystander there thinking, "This is wrong!"?

I wonder what these kids have learned from there parents?



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Reply #11 posted 11/01/09 5:59am

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From reports it sounds like many people were just hanging out and watching. Strange. Very strange.

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Reply #12 posted 11/01/09 6:58am

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Mob mentality nod

There are people who want to watch things happen. There's some sort of sick fascination in it for them
Like when people have to watch a building on fire or a car accident. only on a much sicker scale.

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Reply #13 posted 11/02/09 7:21am

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SUPRMAN said:

lastdecember said:

I can guarantee that some form of "Snitching" bullshit is gonna come up in this case, but you notice that KIDS all can text with lighting speed, and can fucking tweet stupid shit, and yet no one can call 911. I am praying that everyone who watched this unfold, stood there, cheered on, does time, and if its not in the laws in LA, then the people of LA should push for it, and if they still dont get it, I HOPE that what i hear is true, the family of this girl is going to sue the school, the lawmakers, and you can bet that if they get the names of people they will sue bystanders too, and if you think a jury wont be sympathetic and rule for the girl, you are nuts, all these families of these "bystanders" better be ready to pay some serious money, this kid is gonna own them now.

Richmond, CA is in the S.F. Bay Area, north of Oakland.
What are you suing bystanders for? How are they liable?
The civil case against the school is negligence. There is no criminal liability attached to the school.
I think it will settle and not go to trial civilly. There will of course, be a criminal trial.


Richmond is a cesspool.

If you air your dirty linen in public, expect people to comment on the skid marks!
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Reply #14 posted 11/02/09 9:46am

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or gang mentality? As in gang initiation? Not that this is necessarily the case here, but that is the way it can happen for young women...

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Reply #15 posted 11/02/09 12:57pm

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GetAwayFromMe said:

SUPRMAN said:


Richmond, CA is in the S.F. Bay Area, north of Oakland.
What are you suing bystanders for? How are they liable?
The civil case against the school is negligence. There is no criminal liability attached to the school.
I think it will settle and not go to trial civilly. There will of course, be a criminal trial.


Richmond is a cesspool.


No . . . Not the worst city in the Bay Area . . .
I lived in Richmond for 9 years growing up. Couldn't wait to leave.
North Richmond is worse than Richmond, Central Richmond is not as bad as Southside Richmond. There are worse areas of Oakland and San Francisco . . .

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Reply #16 posted 11/02/09 1:06pm

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Who was this "friend" that lured her to the alley? That mofo needs to silenced...permanently.

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Reply #17 posted 11/02/09 1:14pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Who was this "friend" that lured her to the alley? That mofo needs to silenced...permanently.

In the paper yesterday, one of the local thugs said they were looking for the guys the police hadn't arrested yet.
He said if they found them, they would do the same thing to them that they did to her . . .
Makes you wanna turn yourself in . . . .

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Reply #18 posted 11/02/09 1:17pm

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SUPRMAN said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Who was this "friend" that lured her to the alley? That mofo needs to silenced...permanently.

In the paper yesterday, one of the local thugs said they were looking for the guys the police hadn't arrested yet.
He said if they found them, they would do the same thing to them that they did to her . . .
Makes you wanna turn yourself in . . . .



Now see...I would arrest the thug who made those comments. I thought the patriot act took care of people who liked to make public threats. neutral

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DesireeNevermind said:

SUPRMAN said:


In the paper yesterday, one of the local thugs said they were looking for the guys the police hadn't arrested yet.
He said if they found them, they would do the same thing to them that they did to her . . .
Makes you wanna turn yourself in . . . .



Now see...I would arrest the thug who made those comments. I thought the patriot act took care of people who liked to make public threats. neutral

Arrest? I'd pay him 2 follow thru on his comments.

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Reply #20 posted 11/02/09 2:37pm

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Graycap23 said:

DesireeNevermind said:




Now see...I would arrest the thug who made those comments. I thought the patriot act took care of people who liked to make public threats. neutral

Arrest? I'd pay him 2 follow thru on his comments.

lol

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Reply #21 posted 11/02/09 2:51pm

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Graycap23 said:

DesireeNevermind said:




Now see...I would arrest the thug who made those comments. I thought the patriot act took care of people who liked to make public threats. neutral

Arrest? I'd pay him 2 follow thru on his comments.



my bad....im getting my thugs confused. and that sho is easy to do. Im thinking the thug making the threats is making them against the so called "snitches".

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Reply #22 posted 11/02/09 2:53pm

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missmad said:

mordang said:

I just can't get over how this could devolope? To see someone in distress makes me sick to my stomack. Wasn't there even one bystander there thinking, "This is wrong!"?

I wonder what these kids have learned from there parents?



mind ur own business- go to school, come home, go out and shit- if u see shit going down walk the fuck away.


It's The NO Snitching Policy, to the extreme.

Tupac "Makaveli" Shakur (RIP 1971-1996) & Michael Jackson (RIP 1958-2009)

2 men that had their lives taken away the moment they were speaking out AND rebelling against the dark side of the music industry once too often.
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Reply #23 posted 11/03/09 5:30am

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TonyVanDam said:

missmad said:

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mind ur own business- go to school, come home, go out and shit- if u see shit going down walk the fuck away.


It's The NO Snitching Policy, to the extreme.


Moral devaluation comes to mind, but I'm not sure. It is too far from my window of refference. Rape, I consider, toghether with childabuse the lowest of crimes.

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Reply #24 posted 11/03/09 7:00am

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Rape, I consider, toghether with childabuse the lowest of crimes.


I'd give rapists and child molesters the death penalty, but that's just me.

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Reply #25 posted 11/03/09 7:34am

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lastdecember said:

I can guarantee that some form of "Snitching" bullshit is gonna come up in this case, but you notice that KIDS all can text with lighting speed, and can fucking tweet stupid shit, and yet no one can call 911. I am praying that everyone who watched this unfold, stood there, cheered on, does time, and if its not in the laws in LA, then the people of LA should push for it, and if they still dont get it, I HOPE that what i hear is true, the family of this girl is going to sue the school, the lawmakers, and you can bet that if they get the names of people they will sue bystanders too, and if you think a jury wont be sympathetic and rule for the girl, you are nuts, all these families of these "bystanders" better be ready to pay some serious money, this kid is gonna own them now.


Agreed...tHey should all be charged as accomplices.

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Reply #26 posted 11/03/09 7:49am

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From reports it sounds like many people were just hanging out and watching. Strange. Very strange.



F'n crazy scary eek
It's dissappointing to think they didn't value the girls desperate situation. She'll never be the same. You know some of these watchers phone taped this shit. They should be prosecuted.

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Reply #27 posted 11/03/09 10:42am

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A seventh person was arrested, but a 21 year old was released because there wasn't enough evidence.

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SUPRMAN said:

GetAwayFromMe said:



Richmond is a cesspool.


No . . . Not the worst city in the Bay Area . . .
I lived in Richmond for 9 years growing up. Couldn't wait to leave.
North Richmond is worse than Richmond, Central Richmond is not as bad as Southside Richmond. There are worse areas of Oakland and San Francisco . . .

Richmond is getting worse. Southside isn't as bad, central is okay, but North is horrible

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Reply #29 posted 11/05/09 8:03am

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bboy87 said:

SUPRMAN said:



No . . . Not the worst city in the Bay Area . . .
I lived in Richmond for 9 years growing up. Couldn't wait to leave.
North Richmond is worse than Richmond, Central Richmond is not as bad as Southside Richmond. There are worse areas of Oakland and San Francisco . . .

Richmond is getting worse. Southside isn't as bad, central is okay, but North is horrible


It IS getting worse, isn't it? I don't know what it is about the East Bay anymore these days. Richmond, Oakland, Antioch, Hayward, Fremont, shit, even Fairfield and Vallejo. It seems as though the gangs are taking over.

And this just in: San Jose...a twelve year old was shot and a 13 year old stabbed while they were trick or treating JUST because they had red Nikes on. mad

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