Just another religion in bed with the government to manipulate their ideas, Jesus and his disciples were no part of the world affairs. A true following would stand the same. How many people who follow the bible do you see standing this way. One for sure Jehovah's Witnesses.

Just another religion in bed with the government to manipulate their ideas, Jesus and his disciples were no part of the world affairs. A true following would stand the same. How many people who follow the bible do you see standing this way. One for sure Jehovah's Witnesses.

rodman2 said:

Jehovah's Witnesses are pro Gay marriage and gays in Witnesses congregation?
Cool.

TrueBlue4U said:

I'm not trying to speak on behalf of JWs, but I think it's just that they don't get involved in politics one way or another, regardless of their personal stance. If gay marriage were legal or illegal, it would not change how they lived and would not spark a change of position or group outcry one way or another, because it's not their business.

Am I correct in saying this, or off base? That's what I gathered from Rodman's original post.

TrueBlue4U said:

I'm not trying to speak on behalf of JWs, but I think it's just that they don't get involved in politics one way or another, regardless of their personal stance. If gay marriage were legal or illegal, it would not change how they lived and would not spark a change of position or group outcry one way or another, because it's not their business.

Am I correct in saying this, or off base? That's what I gathered from Rodman's original post.

rodman2 said:

Jehovah's Witnesses are pro Gay marriage and gays in Witnesses congregation?
Cool.

savoirfaire said:

You are correct.

TrueBlue4U said:

Learn about us in 387 languages.

http://www.watchtower.org/

rodman2 said:

So are Witnesses silent condonors or condemners of the Mormons on Gay issues?
You have to have a point of view or you wouldn't be in this "political thread".

rodman2 said:

Are you trying to convert the homosexual community here by posting those links?

rodman2 said:

So are Witnesses silent condonors or condemners of the Mormons on Gay issues?
You have to have a point of view or you wouldn't be in this "political thread".

TrueBlue4U said:

Like I said educate yourself about us, and the Mormons, there's a big difference.
And the thread is about the Mormons using their money and power to influence the government legislation.
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rodman2 said:

Well You were make the point that Jesus wouldn't have no part of the world affairs...Why not? and is it a Sin to work in government?

But did God ever have his part in world affairs?

Is it a sin to be gay?
Is it a sin to be gay and be involved in government and fight for equal rights?

What if a government desides to take a action against Jehovah's Witnesses
that pervent them from worship how the Witnesses see fit.
Would you stay silent or get involved and have mans law hold up to a higher law?

the topic here is 8 not JW.

please get back on topic.
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TrueBlue4U said:

You're off topic here, sounds like you might think it's a good thing that religious institutes like the mormon's use their money and power to get legislation to work towards their beliefs and ban people from freedom of rights.

And hey we are banned in many countries, imprisoned for refusing to learn war and fight in battle, for knocking on doors and talking about the bible. Like I said check out our site.
http://www.jw-media.org/n.../index.htm

You're off topic here

the topic here is 8 not JW.

please get back on topic.
[Edited 10/20/09 19:41pm]

No..It sound like you not standing up.
Being silent under the guise of your religion.
Witnesses seem just as bad as being like the Mormons you claim to be better than.
Your silence on the subject is as loud as there screams.


You started it by proping the Jehovah's Witnesses above all other beliefs.
Im just asking if your faith has the same views as the Mormons?

TrueBlue4U said:

I was merely pointing out the wisdom of the bible on instructing Christians to be no part of government affairs.
This is about 8 and we did not vote either way, or coerce a vote using power and money. Our understanding of the bible is brought to the gay community in a one on one confrontation at the door. All gays on this forum know our stand on their lifestyle, I see no need to go over it again, especially when it's not the topic. Both religions have written literature on their stands on the gay lifestyle at their sites, ours is free for the asking, the mormons of course can be bought at amazon.com, the proceeds no doubt possibly help in developing a healthy relationship with government officials. That's just a guess.

ehuffnsd said:

Thank you, enough with the informercials/public service announcements.

On topic, anytime we allow the separation of church and state to be eroded by any denomination to further an agenda of predjudice, it's dangerous. Religious extremeism often gets overlooked or minimized in the US unless it's dealing with Islam.

Last year, the Utah-based Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints urged its followers to donate money and time to pass Prop 8, the successful ballot measure that eliminated the right of same-sex couples to wed in California. Afterward, protests, including several near LDS temples, erupted along with boycotts of business owners who donated to Prop 8 and even some vandalism of LDS meetinghouses. "In their effect," Oaks said, "they are like the well-known and widely condemned voter-intimidation of blacks in the South that produced corrective federal civil-rights legislation." Jeanetta Williams, president of the NAACP's Salt Lake branch, said there is "no comparison." "I don't see where the LDS Church has been denied any of their rights," she said. "What the gay and lesbian communities are fighting for, that is a civil-rights issue."

and than the a leader in the Mormon Church said they were the new black

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13552589

TrueBlue4U said:

I was merely pointing out the wisdom of the bible on instructing Christians to be no part of government affairs.
This is about 8 and we did not vote either way, or coerce a vote using power and money. Our understanding of the bible is brought to the gay community in a one on one confrontation at the door. All gays on this forum know our stand on their lifestyle, I see no need to go over it again, especially when it's not the topic. Both religions have written literature on their stands on the gay lifestyle at their sites, ours is free for the asking, the mormons of course can be bought at amazon.com, the proceeds no doubt possibly help in developing a healthy relationship with government officials. That's just a guess.