Fox has declared WAR on the White House

Look at happened to Dan Rather for reporting about Bush... why is this allowed to happen?

Like many wars, it wasn't hard to see this one coming, but the formal declaration of hostilities still caught almost everyone off guard.

Anita Dunn, the White House communications director, fired the first shot of the formal conflict at the weekend when she said that Obama had refused to appear on Fox News last month - at a time when he was doing a round of interviews on other stations to promote healthcare reform - because the most-watched cable news channel in America dealt in rightwing propaganda, not news.

"Fox News often operates either as the research arm or the communications arm of the Republican party," she said. "They take their talking points, put them on the air; take their opposition research, put them on the air. And that's fine. But let's not pretend they're a news network the way CNN is ... We're going to treat them the way we would treat an opponent."
http://www.guardian.co.uk...hite-house
[Edited 10/13/09 16:29pm]

This will only hurt Obama. FOX has nothing to lose. As shown, they won't lose any viewers and probably only gain them if Obama continues to mention them. Oppositely, anytime Obama is criticized by FOX it will become big news as this storyline battle and may leave impressions on unsuspecting viewers. In other words, Obama shouldn't simply ignore FOX when he gives out interviews to People Magazine yet avoids the largest news media organization in the country.

ehuffnsd said:

That's the first time I've ever watched Glen Beck but that was a funny bit.

But I agree with Mitchurb fox's pr team is gonna run circles around the WH on this. There is no reason to engage Fox news, its stupid.

Though the bigger issue for me has always been that its the people that hate this type of shows i.e beck, bill or rush are the first one to give them the much needed attention. My conservative friends rarely bring up Fox news, Rush limbaugh or Glen Beck, hell I don't know if they even listen to them. It's always the liberals , who seem to not realize that by pointing out the lies that fox news spews only helps to promote and encourage them. From what I've read after the liberal media and bloggers started going after Beck his ratings and pr factor have gone through the roof. He's a hot property.

To give attention to this gives him credit no matter what he's spewing. The truth got lost in the spin decades ago. To acknowledge them, encourages them and along the way they give out half lies and misinformation that the average person may start believing. In the long run you are just helping their cause by drawing attention to it.

Glenn Beck? I know very little about him. But from what I can see of his reporting "style", I dare say that for lack of a better word, he's nothing more than a court jester. What's the point of all these theatrics on this station? Any rational person can see it for what it is; nonsense. It's just a bunch of nonsensical, dramatic gestures intended to draw the ire of the White House, and distract the Head of State. The distraction move is the oldest move in the poli-sci game ever, it's just pathetic to see how childish the Fox people are in executing it. It's embarrassing.

Ottensen said:

YESWECAN said:

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savoirfaire said:

lazycrockett said:

I can see where the White House is coming from but, still, in the words of George Bernard Shaw: "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides,
the pig likes it."

Looks like the morons at Fox took the bait. I'm going to enjoy watching them prove that Dunn was absolutely right.
[Edited 10/14/09 7:26am]

This guy is a clown.

What really gets me about Fox news is that "culture" war mentality.

Bill O'Reilly and his ilk have turned people against each other by starting this culture war when we should be looking for ways to work together.

They don't really want to find solutions. They just want to stir shit. They want to perpetuate liberals are heathens because we want ss-marriage and pro-choice when traditionally Dems have been advocates of the middle class and down-trodden as well as far as economics is concerned, too. It's like... oh... it's ok for big business to run health care, but god forbid the government have an option for people, too. So I guess big business is the good guy? No death panels with health insurance companies I suppose.... NOT!

It's just so weird.

Fox declared war on Obama before the man had been sworn into office.

I find it funny (in a sad & pathetic way) to hear the Fox pundits say things like; "Obama is polarizing the country" as if Bush hadn't already done so eight years ago, or "Obama is a fascist" when in fact Bush was two nickels shy of establishing a Stalinist regime.

I pity them.

ehuffnsd said:

PurpleJedi said:

Fox declared war on Obama before the man had been sworn into office.

I find it funny (in a sad & pathetic way) to hear the Fox pundits say things like; "Obama is polarizing the country" as if Bush hadn't already done so eight years ago, or "Obama is a fascist" when in fact Bush was two nickels shy of establishing a Stalinist regime.

I pity them.

I think all news channels should be suspicious of their government.

Fox, however, isn't really a news channel.


But yeah--There should always be news and reporters questioning everything your leaders are doing. Look at what happened when they ALL fell asleep at the wheel during the Bush Administration.


But yeah, one more time: Fox News is not really a News Channel.

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Graycap23 said:

Imago said:

I think all news channels should be suspicious of their government.

Fox, however, isn't really a news channel.


But yeah--There should always be news and reporters questioning everything your leaders are doing. Look at what happened when they ALL fell asleep at the wheel during the Bush Administration.


But yeah, one more time: Fox News is not really a News Channel.

Good for Obama, I like his thoughts.
I wouldn't watch Fox if you paid me.

ehuffnsd said:

I've often wondered if construction of a red lightsaber takes place before you can become a Republican, or is it something you do after initiation. Dah, well...

Adisa said:

ehuffnsd said:

Aw, the pwesident don't wanna play with you and your widdle fweelings got hurt.

God DAMN there are a lot of dumb motherfuckers walking around! - George Carlin
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I see nothing wrong at all w/ what the White House is doing. Fox News is not a serious news outlet. It's a conservative opinion entertainment network. I agree that the more liberals complain, the more successful Fox becomes so I doubt this will in any way hurt Fox. Their viewers will just love them all the more for it.

CNN is pretty bad right now, worst i ever seen it.
But Fox is just shameless in its right wing craziness. You can not take any organization seriously that would put Glen Beck on the air.

Hannity is an idiot, Bill is jackass, and i may give their cringe-worthy morning personalities a pass, but there is no reason for Beck.

Fox has ZERO credibility.

CNN seems like it just goes through the motions, doing the bare minimum with some of the worst on air personalities on any network, at least Fox personalities are colorful, CNN's are just dumb.

I only watch CNN's headline news in the morning because Robin Meade is hot, as opposed to CNN's regular morning news which has almost no redeeming qualities.
[Edited 10/17/09 20:12pm]

violetblues said:

shellyann said:

shellyann said:

FOX is RW opinion media. Have been since the Clinton administration and will be until there is a radical change of ownership/management philosophy. If they weren't the go to comfort zone for Republicans and conservatives they would not have the ratings they do.

FOX's problem is they picked sides last year and lost. After eight years of first on the rolodex access to Bush administration officials and press releases they were being treated like everyone else. To counter their lack of content problem, they've amped up the volume and become the de facto anti-Obama network. This adversarial tone shines through on every show and is in stark contrast to their highly selective inattention to or outright defense of numerous indefensible Bush era policies. Claiming that criticizing Bush here and there on things like Dubai ports, the bailouts, or immigration is evidence of balance is pure sophistry because Obama is attacked no matter what he does or doesn't do. And when the attacks concern national security or foreign policy the defense of the Bush era continues. All just what their audience wants and expects.

Fox News is so bad, they are even trying to spin this falsehood of how president Obama blocked Rush Limbaugh from getting a piece of the Rams. Just because Executive Director DeMaurice Smith donated $3300 to the Obama campaign...oh my word!! Oh, this little bit of information came from Fox & Friends....no news there.