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Imago

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Nastrodamus & the 2012 End of World stuff

I'm getting tired of all the History Channel shows about Nastrodamus.

Now, they're combining him with themes of the Mayan end-of-the-world calendar (2012)


Does anyone believe this stuff? Any of it?


It just seems like 'science' and 'history' shows have adopted a strange breed of sensationalism when they should be looking at currently history-altering events like stem cell research, the Kepler mission, or search for the cure for AIDS.



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Reply #1 posted 10/13/09 10:00am

XxAxX

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it seems not unlikely that it's remotely possible that maybe, and perhaps, in 2012, planet earth could experience a super volcano eruption, or experience our sun going pulsar on us, or experience a pole shift, or sail through a previously unknown asteroid belt.. why, the possibilities for disaster are many!!

go ahead and laugh if you like, but *i* for one, intend to remain as terrified of the unknown as i can until 2012. i'll feel safer that way.

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Reply #2 posted 10/13/09 10:04am

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I think it has to do with, it seemed like a good place to stop. Like we did with y2k. They knew at the time it would be an issue, but they had to save 16 bits.

But there is also some deal about the Sun being lined up with the core of the milky way.

I think the worst thing we have to fear is a few years of people saying how we are all doomed and silly movies.

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Reply #3 posted 10/13/09 10:32am

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I think it's all true.
You better suicide now before it's too late nod

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Reply #4 posted 10/13/09 10:38am

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The Mayans are actually upset over all the Western Christian hoopla over this.

There is just a shift within the universe that is only supposed to happen every 2800 years.

There is supposed to be a "New Age Spiritual Awakening"
waether that has to do with us being able to be more in touch spiritually or being more open to the other parts of life are up in the air. Me being Spiritualist myself I wish that would happen but imo aint nothing going to change.

When we say that the purpose of life is to find God, surely that desire to find God is an escape from life -Conciouscontact
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Reply #5 posted 10/13/09 10:41am

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just feels like a Y2K scare re-run

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Reply #6 posted 10/13/09 10:43am

OnlyNDaUsa

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just feels like a Y2K scare re-run



I agree! They had to stop someplace. That seemed like as good as a time as any.

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Reply #7 posted 10/13/09 1:12pm

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Imago said:

I'm getting tired of all the History Channel shows about Nastrodamus.

Now, they're combining him with themes of the Mayan end-of-the-world calendar (2012)


Does anyone believe this stuff? Any of it?


It just seems like 'science' and 'history' shows have adopted a strange breed of sensationalism when they should be looking at currently history-altering events like stem cell research, the Kepler mission, or search for the cure for AIDS.



It's television. They're competing.

2012? I hope I live to see Dec. 21, 2012.

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Reply #8 posted 10/13/09 1:13pm

SUPRMAN

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paisleypark4 said:

The Mayans are actually upset over all the Western Christian hoopla over this.

There is just a shift within the universe that is only supposed to happen every 2800 years.


There is supposed to be a "New Age Spiritual Awakening"
waether that has to do with us being able to be more in touch spiritually or being more open to the other parts of life are up in the air. Me being Spiritualist myself I wish that would happen but imo aint nothing going to change.


Once every 26,000 years

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Reply #9 posted 10/13/09 2:46pm

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SUPRMAN said:

paisleypark4 said:

The Mayans are actually upset over all the Western Christian hoopla over this.

There is just a shift within the universe that is only supposed to happen every 2800 years.


There is supposed to be a "New Age Spiritual Awakening"
waether that has to do with us being able to be more in touch spiritually or being more open to the other parts of life are up in the air. Me being Spiritualist myself I wish that would happen but imo aint nothing going to change.


Once every 26,000 years



Yeah that nod

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Reply #10 posted 10/13/09 7:17pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

I think it has to do with, it seemed like a good place to stop. Like we did with y2k. They knew at the time it would be an issue, but they had to save 16 bits.

But there is also some deal about the Sun being lined up with the core of the milky way.

I think the worst thing we have to fear is a few years of people saying how we are all doomed and silly movies.



since the Galaxy is a disk, then no mater where the sun is it's lined up with the center of the galaxy depending upon your point of view... that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

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Reply #11 posted 10/13/09 7:35pm

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When did the History Channel become the End of the World Channel? Weren't they happy being the Hitler Channel?

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Reply #12 posted 10/13/09 7:43pm

Imago

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Efan said:

When did the History Channel become the End of the World Channel? Weren't they happy being the Hitler Channel?

Oh My gahhhh falloff


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Reply #13 posted 10/13/09 7:51pm

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Imago said:

Efan said:

When did the History Channel become the End of the World Channel? Weren't they happy being the Hitler Channel?

Oh My gahhhh falloff


Lawd, sometimes we share the same brain.
Isn't that cool or what? hug


I've often thought you were one of the smartest orgers. biggrin

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Reply #14 posted 10/13/09 7:57pm

Imago

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Efan said:

Imago said:


Oh My gahhhh falloff


Lawd, sometimes we share the same brain.
Isn't that cool or what? hug


I've often thought you were one of the smartest orgers. biggrin

omfg

Wait. Have you actually read my posts? lol (ok, I'm semi-fishing for compliments batting eyes ky )

hug



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Reply #15 posted 10/13/09 10:53pm

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Imago said:

Efan said:

When did the History Channel become the End of the World Channel? Weren't they happy being the Hitler Channel?

Oh My gahhhh falloff


Lawd, sometimes we share the same brain.
Isn't that cool or what? hug


That's so funny. Back when the History Channel first came out, my dad called it the Hitler Channel. Thanks for saying that Imago. It brought back some good memories of my dad.

Louie Gohmert Speaker of the House 2011
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Reply #16 posted 10/13/09 11:06pm

demore

Imago said:

I'm getting tired of all the History Channel shows about Nastrodamus.

Now, they're combining him with themes of the Mayan end-of-the-world calendar (2012)


Does anyone believe this stuff? Any of it?


It just seems like 'science' and 'history' shows have adopted a strange breed of sensationalism when they should be looking at currently history-altering events like stem cell research, the Kepler mission, or search for the cure for AIDS.


I was watching something on the History Channel last night. They were tying Nostradamus, the Mayans and Sir Issac Newton together. It is interesting and entertaining. As a Christian I believe that ONLY God knows when the end will come, it could be tonight or it could be another thousand years. But it is still interesting to hear other people's ideas on the subject.

Louie Gohmert Speaker of the House 2011
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Reply #17 posted 10/14/09 2:15am

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i dont know about 2012 but yes I do believe that the world is going to end and I do believe in Armageddon and the 2nd coming but we dont know when the world will end but I find it interesting that people from that long ago made such a prediction it would be interesting how that year turns out
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Reply #18 posted 10/14/09 2:23am

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doh! I missed last months end of the world.

9/9/9 only brought the remastered Beatles catalogue shrug
Could have been worse. hmmm Kenny G expanded and remastered

boxed make it go away, make it go away

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Reply #19 posted 10/14/09 4:13am

JellyBean

Efan said:

When did the History Channel become the End of the World Channel? Weren't they happy being the Hitler Channel?


lol That is true. For years they would show nothing but Hitler crap and ten all of a sudden, they went into this end of the world crap.

“When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara
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Reply #20 posted 10/14/09 4:14am

JellyBean

PANDURITO said:

doh! I missed last months end of the world.

9/9/9 only brought the remastered Beatles catalogue shrug
Could have been worse. hmmm Kenny G expanded and remastered

boxed make it go away, make it go away


lol

“When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara
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Reply #21 posted 10/14/09 1:33pm

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byronic said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I think it has to do with, it seemed like a good place to stop. Like we did with y2k. They knew at the time it would be an issue, but they had to save 16 bits.

But there is also some deal about the Sun being lined up with the core of the milky way.

I think the worst thing we have to fear is a few years of people saying how we are all doomed and silly movies.



since the Galaxy is a disk, then no mater where the sun is it's lined up with the center of the galaxy depending upon your point of view... that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.


Wrong.
Our entire solar system moves up and down (as well as the entire galaxy moving through space) on a 56 million year or so cycle.
So we are very rarely lined up with the center of the galaxy.
From where we are, what you say appears to be logical but it's not.
We aren't always lined up with the Sun either. Although based on appearances you would think we always were.

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Reply #22 posted 10/14/09 7:14pm

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SUPRMAN said:

byronic said:




since the Galaxy is a disk, then no mater where the sun is it's lined up with the center of the galaxy depending upon your point of view... that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.


Wrong.
Our entire solar system moves up and down (as well as the entire galaxy moving through space) on a 56 million year or so cycle.
So we are very rarely lined up with the center of the galaxy.
From where we are, what you say appears to be logical but it's not.
We aren't always lined up with the Sun either. Although based on appearances you would think we always were.

Wrong.

moving in three dimensions doesn't negate the fact that we are always lined up. look at it this way, put your left hand directly in front of your face and make a fist, hold your right hand out in front of you and make a fist. both are line up, now take your left hand and move it up above your head, if you were able to look at it from from directly behind your fist looking toward your right fist, it would still be lined up, and if you then move it again to be directly beside your right fist, they are still lined up depending upon the point of view. Now, if your saying they are all on the same plane, then that is a different thing altogether but not equivalent to "lined up."

Up and down have no real meaning in three dimensions and everything in the universe is lined up with everything else in the universe depending on where your looking at it from.
[Edited 10/14/09 19:15pm]

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Reply #23 posted 10/14/09 7:45pm

Imago

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SUPRMAN said:

byronic said:




since the Galaxy is a disk, then no mater where the sun is it's lined up with the center of the galaxy depending upon your point of view... that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.


Wrong.
Our entire solar system moves up and down (as well as the entire galaxy moving through space) on a 56 million year or so cycle.
So we are very rarely lined up with the center of the galaxy.
From where we are, what you say appears to be logical but it's not.
We aren't always lined up with the Sun either. Although based on appearances you would think we always were.


Every 26 to 31 millions years we line up with the galactic plane.



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Reply #24 posted 10/14/09 8:59pm

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byronic said:

SUPRMAN said:



Wrong.
Our entire solar system moves up and down (as well as the entire galaxy moving through space) on a 56 million year or so cycle.
So we are very rarely lined up with the center of the galaxy.
From where we are, what you say appears to be logical but it's not.
We aren't always lined up with the Sun either. Although based on appearances you would think we always were.

Wrong.

moving in three dimensions doesn't negate the fact that we are always lined up. look at it this way, put your left hand directly in front of your face and make a fist, hold your right hand out in front of you and make a fist. both are line up, now take your left hand and move it up above your head, if you were able to look at it from from directly behind your fist looking toward your right fist, it would still be lined up, and if you then move it again to be directly beside your right fist, they are still lined up depending upon the point of view. Now, if your saying they are all on the same plane, then that is a different thing altogether but not equivalent to "lined up."

Up and down have no real meaning in three dimensions and everything in the universe is lined up with everything else in the universe depending on where your looking at it from.
[Edited 10/14/09 19:15pm]

I am saying this event will align them on the same plane.
I think it as at least four dimensions (I add time) but anyway . . .
Everything else in the universe is not lined up depending on where you look at it from. There is no such point unless you were so far away that all you saw was a spot of light. Even then that would align every galaxy and star in the Universe.
There is always a 'relative' up and down. Even in space. You are just free to delegate from points of your choosing.
Even drifting in space you would orient 'up' as where your head is and 'down' where your feet are until your senses (visually or otherwise) changed the perception.

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Reply #25 posted 10/14/09 9:12pm

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Imago said:

I'm getting tired of all the History Channel shows about Nastrodamus.

Now, they're combining him with themes of the Mayan end-of-the-world calendar (2012)


Does anyone believe this stuff? Any of it?


It just seems like 'science' and 'history' shows have adopted a strange breed of sensationalism when they should be looking at currently history-altering events like stem cell research, the Kepler mission, or search for the cure for AIDS.


Don't forget Cayce...hmmm.

The History Channel, Discovery, Learning Channel and A&E have all gone down the crapper in terms of programming, but this stuff is actually kind of interesting.

From what I gather in my readings of various viewpoints, the end of the Mayan Calendar on 12.21.12 signifies the end of an age, (Yuga) and the beginning of another. According to the astrologers the planetary alignments bear this out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._Kali_Yuga

I don't think anybody knows what the end of an age actually entails since no one lives from one age to another.

The interesting thing is that all cultures have an end times philosophy and the similarities are noteworthy.

http://alignment2012.com/whatisga.htm

Anyway, the transition of the universe from one age to another supposedly goes in cycles like the seasons. Some say that the expected worldwide upheaval will signify that the old ways are dying in order to make way for the paradigm shift in the evolution of consciousness and the more resistant energy humans put forth, the more difficult the transition will be.

As I understand it, the theory of what it means for mankind is that when the number of people who embrace this idea of oneness or At-one-ment reaches a critical mass, the paradigm shift will happen, making the transition less painful. If not, then it all goes to hell in a handbasket, making the end times transition far more severe.

In other words either we must choose the higher road and transition mentally and spiritually or we must endure the lower and much more difficult path of physical suffering.

Or something like that. lol

"After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill...the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill...you stay in wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes."
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Reply #26 posted 10/14/09 11:14pm

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SUPRMAN said:

byronic said:


Wrong.

moving in three dimensions doesn't negate the fact that we are always lined up. look at it this way, put your left hand directly in front of your face and make a fist, hold your right hand out in front of you and make a fist. both are line up, now take your left hand and move it up above your head, if you were able to look at it from from directly behind your fist looking toward your right fist, it would still be lined up, and if you then move it again to be directly beside your right fist, they are still lined up depending upon the point of view. Now, if your saying they are all on the same plane, then that is a different thing altogether but not equivalent to "lined up."

Up and down have no real meaning in three dimensions and everything in the universe is lined up with everything else in the universe depending on where your looking at it from.
[Edited 10/14/09 19:15pm]

I am saying this event will align them on the same plane.
I think it as at least four dimensions (I add time) but anyway . . .
Everything else in the universe is not lined up depending on where you look at it from. There is no such point unless you were so far away that all you saw was a spot of light. Even then that would align every galaxy and star in the Universe.
There is always a 'relative' up and down. Even in space. You are just free to delegate from points of your choosing.
Even drifting in space you would orient 'up' as where your head is and 'down' where your feet are until your senses (visually or otherwise) changed the perception.


everything in the universe is always lined up with everything else in the universe. Any two given points are always lined up. you can always line up any one object with any other object in the universe at any time.

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Nastrodamus predicted alot of big events that have come to pass (WTC towers, wars etc.)...
but I'm not gonna put my bet on anybody's prediction of the end of the world.

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Reply #28 posted 10/15/09 4:36am

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Imago said:

I'm getting tired of all the History Channel shows about Nastrodamus.

Now, they're combining him with themes of the Mayan end-of-the-world calendar (2012)


Does anyone believe this stuff? Any of it?


It just seems like 'science' and 'history' shows have adopted a strange breed of sensationalism when they should be looking at currently history-altering events like stem cell research, the Kepler mission, or search for the cure for AIDS.



The mayans don't believe the world will end in 2012.

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Reply #29 posted 10/15/09 7:21am

JellyBean

JayJai said:

Nastrodamus predicted alot of big events that have come to pass (WTC towers, wars etc.)...
but I'm not gonna put my bet on anybody's prediction of the end of the world.



Yeah. He reminds of Pat Robertson. Pat keeps predicting that the world will end soon...really? Nothing against Nostradamus, but his predictions are a bit vague. Having read a book of translations on his quatrains (Nostradamus and His Prophecies by Edgar Leoni), I think that he was just very good at keeping things generic enough to apply sooner or later.

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