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Carter: Race plays role in Obama dislike Source:
"I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man," Carter said. "I live in the South, and I've seen the South come a long way, and I've seen the rest of the country that share the South's attitude toward minority groups at that time, particularly African Americans." Carter continued, "And that racism inclination still exists..." [Edited 9/16/09 5:58am] Education, the greatest weapon
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take a look at the signs at this recent gathering of 20,000 people in DC and you have proof racism is cloaked in opposition. Bush ruined this cuntry and these people were nowhere in sight. Suddenly they care? Nope, racists. And for anybody that laments the fact they are viewed as racists for real opposition, you only have your leaders and yourselves to blame. You've allowed these people to be the face of your party so don't go crying if people assiociate you with them. 2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: this recent gathering of 20,000 people in DC
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Now that someone with some form of authority has pulled the 1 inch mat off of the 1000 lb elephant in the room. Will this country finally begin to have a dialog on what really is going on or are we going to keep dancing around it, pretending it's not there?
Of course, I'm a Liberal! I'm an American, damn it!
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: Now that someone with some form of authority has pulled the 1 inch mat off of the 1000 lb elephant in the room. Will this country finally begin to have a dialog on what really is going on or are we going to keep dancing around it, pretending it's not there?
. [Edited 9/15/09 18:03pm] I'm thinking the latter.  ________________
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Accujack said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: this recent gathering of 20,000 people in DC
Funnier still are the FAKE pictures of the tea party posted on right wing blogs!
They posted a picture of huge crowds from 2004 on their blogs fronting like it was from this demonstration. 
Also falsely hipeing up the numbers in attendance and crediting the false numbers to ABC news
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violetblues said: Accujack said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:
Funnier still are the FAKE pictures of the tea party posted on right wing blogs!
They posted a picture of huge crowds from 2004 on their blogs fronting like it was from this demonstration.
http://www.huffingtonpost...86082.html Lawd, they were that desperate to do that? Education, the greatest weapon
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2elijah said:
Lawd, they were that desperate to do that? Hello!..this is the shameless right we are talking about, the would use threats of killing grandma no less!. [Edited 9/15/09 18:27pm] |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: take a look at the signs at this recent gathering of 20,000 people in DC and you have proof racism is cloaked in opposition. Bush ruined this cuntry and these people were nowhere in sight. Suddenly they care? Nope, racists. And for anybody that laments the fact they are viewed as racists for real opposition, you only have your leaders and yourselves to blame. You've allowed these people to be the face of your party so don't go crying if people assiociate you with them.
I think it is sad that a former President had to come to the forefront and publically express that this nation, is still displaying the same racist attitudes of the past. This country is quick to point fingers at the wrongs of other nations and how they treat their citizens, but when the finger turns in the other direction, many Americans can't handled being told this country is still racist. Hearing former President Jimmy Carter say it, has put the stamp on what many of us have been saying about this country for the past 3 years, while others denied it existed to no end. All I can say is, "Thank you former President Jimmy Carter for putting the confirming that racism still exists in America."  [Edited 9/15/09 18:31pm] Education, the greatest weapon
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violetblues said: 2elijah said:
Lawd, they were that desperate to do that? Hello!..this is the shameless right we are talking about, the would use threats of killing grandma no less!.
[Edited 9/15/09 18:27pm] Sad, because the behavior being portrayed by many of these Americans, obviously will be documented, and will be shown down the road in many documentaries, or printed in history books. Some of those teabagging images, reminds me of the horrible way people acted during the civil rights fight era. Shame, shame, shame. [Edited 9/15/09 18:50pm] Education, the greatest weapon
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: Now that someone with some form of authority has pulled the 1 inch mat off of the 1000 lb elephant in the room. Will this country finally begin to have a dialog on what really is going on or are we going to keep dancing around it, pretending it's not there?
. [Edited 9/15/09 18:03pm] I'll give U 1 guess..... The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
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I'm not surprised that President Jimmy Carter is telling it like it is. I was in elementary for most of his four years and was in the eighth grade when he lost to Ronald Reagan so I was very young and didn't know much about how he ran the country or how well he was at his job. But the main thing I remember for those four years, was how he was known here in Mississippi as the "nigger lover". Whites used to openly badmouth him and didn't hold their tongue either. He was absolutely hated down here and a lot of the racist images and cartoons about Obama that are showing up on the internet and racist comments being exposed in government emails and conservative websites, this was all going on down here about Jimmy Carter in flyers. The Ku Klux Klan used to pass out literature all the time at the traffic lights (which my racist father used to pick up) and Jimmy Carter was the main object of their racist cartoons and articles. If the internet had existed back then, y'all think these comments about Obama are something, that's nothing compared to what they would have been saying about Jimmy Carter if the internet had existed because back then, racists were much more out in the open. Remember, segregation had only ended ten years earlier.
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"The modern defintion of 'racist', is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."
He is exactly who we thought he was | |
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Accujack said: "The modern defintion of 'racist', is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."
Can U dig it?..... That would be nice. By your definition, racism wouldn't even exist. | |
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vainandy said: I'm not surprised that President Jimmy Carter is telling it like it is. I was in elementary for most of his four years and was in the eighth grade when he lost to Ronald Reagan so I was very young and didn't know much about how he ran the country or how well he was at his job. But the main thing I remember for those four years, was how he was known here in Mississippi as the "nigger lover". Whites used to openly badmouth him and didn't hold their tongue either. He was absolutely hated down here and a lot of the racist images and cartoons about Obama that are showing up on the internet and racist comments being exposed in government emails and conservative websites, this was all going on down here about Jimmy Carter in flyers. The Ku Klux Klan used to pass out literature all the time at the traffic lights (which my racist father used to pick up) and Jimmy Carter was the main object of their racist cartoons and articles. If the internet had existed back then, y'all think these comments about Obama are something, that's nothing compared to what they would have been saying about Jimmy Carter if the internet had existed because back then, racists were much more out in the open. Remember, segregation had only ended ten years earlier.
My grandparents (on my mother's side of course) absolutely loved Jimmy Carter. He's always been my favorite president. As I said before, I don't know how well he may have been at his job as president since I was too young, but I have seen documentaries on his humanitarian work since he left the presidency. The man truly cares about people, and not just the ones that share his race. Wow, thanks vainandy for sharing. I remember President Jimmy Carter being called a "n....r lover" from folks in the north as well. Americans said that about President Clinton also. I remember when Rush Limbaugh came out with his own tv show, mocking and insulting President Clinton. I also agree, that President Jimmy Carter is a humanitarian and so is his wife. It's sad that folks like Jimmy and his wife were/are looked upon in a negative way, as you mentioned in your post, like some folks views in the south about them. I'm sure Carter will catch a lot of heat and hate because of what he expressed today. It seems if you mention "racism in America" you get attacked for exposing it for exactly what it is, because there are so many folks that just can't face the reality of it, and would rather deny its existence. I applaud Mr. Carter for his humanitarian work over the years and for publically stating his feelings on the racist attitudes of this country. You just don't get to possess humanitarian qualities, if it isn't already part of your character. [Edited 9/15/09 19:21pm] Education, the greatest weapon
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MrSoulpower said: Accujack said: "The modern defintion of 'racist', is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."
Can U dig it?..... That would be nice. By your definition, racism wouldn't even exist. Touche' He is exactly who we thought he was | |
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Accujack said: MrSoulpower said: That would be nice. By your definition, racism wouldn't even exist. Touche' | |
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2elijah said: Sad, because the behavior being portrayed by many of these Americans, obviously will be documented, and will be shown down the road in many documentaries, or printed in history books. Some of those teabagging images, reminds me of the horrible way people acted during the civil rights fight era. Shame, shame, shame. Agree 100%, and that is exactly how they will be portrayed. When i look at those images from the past i often wonder how they could get away with it and why more people didn't stand up. Well this nonsense is now facing us again, and it is test of how our generation will deal and confront this. [Edited 9/15/09 19:57pm] |
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violetblues said: Accujack said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:
Funnier still are the FAKE pictures of the tea party posted on right wing blogs!
They posted a picture of huge crowds from 2004 on their blogs fronting like it was from this demonstration.
Also falsely hipeing up the numbers in attendance and crediting the false numbers to ABC news
http://www.huffingtonpost...86082.html
[Edited 9/15/09 18:24pm] Figures. The GOP is grasping for anything, anything! To help their cause. “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara | |
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Graycap23 said: HatrinaHaterwitz said: Now that someone with some form of authority has pulled the 1 inch mat off of the 1000 lb elephant in the room. Will this country finally begin to have a dialog on what really is going on or are we going to keep dancing around it, pretending it's not there?
. [Edited 9/15/09 18:03pm] I'll give U 1 guess..... Not that I needed President Carter to validate what I already knew, but I thank him for speaking out because this is nothing to be coy about. The people who are deliberately inciting this behavior as well as those who turn a blind eye to it are setting the tone for an escalation of hate in this country. If there were only black leaders speaking, they would most likely be told to get over it yet again, I'm encouraged when non blacks join us to condemn the hatred. Just like during the civil rights movement, people of all races will have to stand together against this new neo racist movement in disguise. "After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill...the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill...you stay in wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes." | |
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violetblues said: 2elijah said: Sad, because the behavior being portrayed by many of these Americans, obviously will be documented, and will be shown down the road in many documentaries, or printed in history books. Some of those teabagging images, reminds me of the horrible way people acted during the civil rights fight era. Shame, shame, shame. Agree 100%, and that is exactly how they will be portrayed. When i look at those images from the past i often wonder how they could get away with it and why more people didn't stand up. Well this nonsense is now facing us again, and it is test of how our generation will deal and confront this. [Edited 9/15/09 19:57pm] Because they may be afraid of the racists who commit these acts. They're afraid the racists will turn against them, bully them to "conform" to their way of thinking. Some may be called n****r lovers by their friends, relatives, etc., like vainandy mentioned happened in the south, during President Jimmy Carter's reign as President. The point is, a racist, will do anything and everything to make those who stand up against racism, look like the bad guys, if racism in this country is exposed for what it is. One thing racists can't handle is"the ugly, detailed truths" of racism. To those who stand up to it, and aren't afraid to expose it, and face the consequences, now those are "Champions" just like President Jimmy Carter. I applaud him for not being afraid to tell the truth. It's about time, a major public figure "publically" admits, that there is ongoing racism in this country. [Edited 9/15/09 21:37pm] Education, the greatest weapon
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carter may not have been the most effective president while he was holding the office, but he has been an incredible former president, and this is a shining example.
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babynoz said: Graycap23 said: I'll give U 1 guess..... Not that I needed President Carter to validate what I already knew, but I thank him for speaking out because this is nothing to be coy about. The people who are deliberately inciting this behavior as well as those who turn a blind eye to it are setting the tone for an escalation of hate in this country. If there were only black leaders speaking, they would most likely be told to get over it yet again, I'm encouraged when non blacks join us to condemn the hatred. Just like during the civil rights movement, people of all races will have to stand together against this new neo racist movement in disguise. Which is why I asked my question. I know good and damn well it is not only us that clearly see what the hell is going on. I also know that not all white people suckle at the tits of the likes of Glenn Beck and Boss Hogg Limbaugh. However, with the media deregulated to the ownership of all media, television, radio and print to just the very wealthy and chosen few who also happen to be Neocons, it's hard as hell to tell that now-a-days. Unless and until the rest start speaking for themselves, what are we and the rest of the world to believe is true? Of course, I'm a Liberal! I'm an American, damn it!
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cborgman said: carter may not have been the most effective president while he was olding the office, but he has been an incredible former president, and this is a shining example.
Yes he has been. The humanitarian in him has always shined through. Sidenote: (Cborg. I didn't forget. I will be watching "Passing Strange" near the end of this week, as I promised you, and will give you my opinion on it.) [Edited 9/15/09 21:51pm] Education, the greatest weapon
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: babynoz said: Not that I needed President Carter to validate what I already knew, but I thank him for speaking out because this is nothing to be coy about. The people who are deliberately inciting this behavior as well as those who turn a blind eye to it are setting the tone for an escalation of hate in this country. If there were only black leaders speaking, they would most likely be told to get over it yet again, I'm encouraged when non blacks join us to condemn the hatred. Just like during the civil rights movement, people of all races will have to stand together against this new neo racist movement in disguise. Which is why I asked my question. I know good and damn well it is not only us that clearly see what the hell is going on. I also know that not all white people suckle at the tits of the likes of Glenn Beck and Boss Hogg Limbaugh. However, with the media deregulated to the ownership of all media, television, radio and print to just the very wealthy and chosen few who also happen to be Neocons, it's hard as hell to tell that now-a-days. Unless and until the rest start speaking for themselves, what are we and the rest of the world to believe is true? It was the same climate during the sabre rattling in the lead up to the war. You cannot tell me that the media and people in positions of leadership didn't know the thuth, they just chose to go along to get along because of fear. There was no Air America or MSNBC till years after the war started. People cowered in fear because of all the bullying and hoped it would go away without them having to do or say anything. Most people are hesitant to stick their necks out over wrongdoing that doesn't affect them directly. Carter has shown himself to be consistently courageous and wise. "After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill...the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill...you stay in wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes." | |
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babynoz said: HatrinaHaterwitz said: Which is why I asked my question. I know good and damn well it is not only us that clearly see what the hell is going on. I also know that not all white people suckle at the tits of the likes of Glenn Beck and Boss Hogg Limbaugh. However, with the media deregulated to the ownership of all media, television, radio and print to just the very wealthy and chosen few who also happen to be Neocons, it's hard as hell to tell that now-a-days. Unless and until the rest start speaking for themselves, what are we and the rest of the world to believe is true? It was the same climate during the sabre rattling in the lead up to the war. You cannot tell me that the media and people in positions of leadership didn't know the thuth, they just chose to go along to get along because of fear. There was no Air America or MSNBC till years after the war started. People cowered in fear because of all the bullying and hoped it would go away without them having to do or say anything. Most people are hesitant to stick their necks out over wrongdoing that doesn't affect them directly. Carter has shown himself to be consistently courageous and wise. That's actually what pisses me off more so than Beck, Limbaugh and their ilk! The last time, I checked...this was America, damn it! I wasn't born until 1970 but from what I've learned through my studies about this great country of ours, is that WE THE PEOPLE on the side of what is right and just for ALL of us DO NOT COWER! What the hell happened to that and US? Of course, I'm a Liberal! I'm an American, damn it!
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violetblues said: Accujack said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:
Funnier still are the FAKE pictures of the tea party posted on right wing blogs!
They posted a picture of huge crowds from 2004 on their blogs fronting like it was from this demonstration.
Also falsely hipeing up the numbers in attendance and crediting the false numbers to ABC news
http://www.huffingtonpost...86082.html
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A lot of the criticisms toward Obama are definitely racially motivated.
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I don't think anyone viewing these events with a neutral outlook has ever doubted that race is a factor is why some poeople protest against Obama. But I also think its important to recognise that just because racists are against Obama, doesn't mean being against Obama makes you racist.
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Paris9748430 said: A lot of the criticisms toward Obama are definitely racially motivated.
Threats on the President have risen 300%. Do you think that would happen if Obama wasn't Black? Do you think Republicans would be passing around emails showing this if Obama wasn't Black? 
Do you think people at these Teabag Parties would be shouting that they want to "Take their country back" if Obama wasn't Black? Of course Race plays a factor in the blatant disrespect of this President. I have never seen a President being disrespected the way this President is. If any Television Personality dared question say anything remotely upsetting about President Bush, their careers were over. Look what happened to Bill Maher's show on ABC. Look what happen to the Dixie Chicks. Protesters were called "loony" and "radical" by people like Sean Hannity and Michelle Bachman. Now, they're calling people bringing assault rifles to Presidential Events "Patriots". You can accuse people of "Playing the Race Card". You know what? You play the cards you're dealt. I agree with the majority of your post. It's disgusting the way many of these Americans behave. The racist mockery of our President says a lot about this country. Now if something actually happens to Obama, those media personalities that basically promoted the hatred against him, will be part of the blame. I mean when you have folks publically wishing failure and death upon him because of who he is, that's when it gets pretty sick and twisted. [Edited 9/16/09 6:38am] Education, the greatest weapon
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