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Van Jones thrown under the bus. Van Jones, the Green Energy Czar had to quit because of controversial comments he had made about Republicans and that he signed a petition saying that 9/11 was an inside job.
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I think you're right. I'm hearing that President Obama didn't force him to resign though., but if he didn't, I'm sure that would give the haters another reason to use go after President Obama, for what Van Jones said. They would have probably used the same tactics they did with Jeremiah Wright to smear Obama. Education, the greatest weapon
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IrresistibleB1tch said: [Edited 9/6/09 13:26pm] Looks like Glen Beck is the new head of the Democratic party. | |
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2the9s said: IrresistibleB1tch said: [Edited 9/6/09 13:26pm] Looks like Glen Beck is the new head of the Democratic party. | |
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You got to love the GOP propaganda machine, it gets the job done. "...I will go to the animal shelter and get you a kitty cat. I will let you fall in love...with that kitty cat. And then on some dark, cold night I will steal away into your home...and punch you in the face!" | |
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who cares if Van Jones thinks 9/11 was a conspiracy? Who cares that he said a black child would never do a Columbine incident? First of all maybe it was a conspiracy haven't done enough research to validate that claim. Second, he is correct about the Columbine statement. I'm what he would say behind closed doors "a cracker" and the reason I do agree is the social tendencies of crackers would suggest we are "loners" while blacks travel in packs. Like it or not, these are accurate statements.
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So if there was nothing wrong with Van Jones,why was he forced to quit.
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After all this "birther" BS, there was NO WAY Obama could keep someone around that signed a "truther" petition.
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Heck yeah, Van Jones was thrown under the bus. When Van Jones former organization (Color of Change) was so instrumental in getting numerous advertisers to drop their sponsorship of Beck the Baboon. This was payback courtesy of Murdoch and Ailes. I just wish that Van Jones would have stood his ground and fought back. The GOP hate when you fight back. “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara | |
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What gets me is:
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OnlyNDaUsa said: What gets me is:
he is an avowed communist and that is okay with obama. he make hateful racist rants and that is okay with obama he signs a truther statement and that is the problem? The fact that much of this 'dirt' was reported by FOX news tells me that other media outlets lack the integrity to do a little vetting. CBS seems to have done more digging on Joe the Plumber than on Van Jones. You are 31 Flavors of Dumb. “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara | |
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JellyBean said: Heck yeah, Van Jones was thrown under the bus. When Van Jones former organization (Color of Change) was so instrumental in getting numerous advertisers to drop their sponsorship of Beck the Baboon. This was payback courtesy of Murdoch and Ailes. I just wish that Van Jones would have stood his ground and fought back. The GOP hate when you fight back.
It was definitely payback because of the loss of sponsorhip from Beck's show. What did Beck expect. He spews racist BS, did he expect many of his sponsors to continue to back his show? That would be loss of revenue and consumers for them. I hope beck loses more sponsors. But now that Van is not attached to the President's administration any longer, I hope he does not hold back his points of view. Interesting points he made about the Columbine incident though. I guess the typical assholes couldn't handle it. [Edited 9/7/09 14:15pm] Education, the greatest weapon
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JellyBean said: OnlyNDaUsa said: What gets me is:
he is an avowed communist and that is okay with obama. he make hateful racist rants and that is okay with obama he signs a truther statement and that is the problem? The fact that much of this 'dirt' was reported by FOX news tells me that other media outlets lack the integrity to do a little vetting. CBS seems to have done more digging on Joe the Plumber than on Van Jones. You are 31 Flavors of Dumb. typical tactic. somebody makes a valid point and you guys start calling names. Jesus is coming Look busy. jk | |
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More will come out. Much was not reported on - about Van Jones being a radical.
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lazycrockett said: You got to love the GOP propaganda machine, it gets the job done.
Are you saying it's not true or that you agree his past isn't relative or that he's ok for leading position? | |
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YESWECAN said: lazycrockett said: You got to love the GOP propaganda machine, it gets the job done.
Are you saying it's not true or that you agree his past isn't relative or that he's ok for leading position? Good Point! Personally, I believe this should be relevant to all Americans. I want leaders that believe in our American values regardless of political affiliation. Wake up!......Wake up! | |
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shellyann said: YESWECAN said: Are you saying it's not true or that you agree his past isn't relative or that he's ok for leading position? Good Point! Personally, I believe this should be relevant to all Americans. I want leaders that believe in our American values regardless of political affiliation. What are "American" Values? 2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: shellyann said: Good Point! Personally, I believe this should be relevant to all Americans. I want leaders that believe in our American values regardless of political affiliation. What are "American" Values? I take it you're not American. Americans value democracy and our freedoms. I was trying to say I want someone who believes in and has always believed in democracy, not communism, to be in a position of authority. I am sure you can understand that. Americans want change.... just not that kind of change. Thanks for asking! Wake up!......Wake up! | |
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shellyann said: I take it you're not American. shellyann said: Americans value democracy and our freedoms Yeah, but fuck everybody else's. You don't need directions and you don't need cash. From your Jimmy Choos to your Ultralash. ~ Prince And when the groove is dead and gone, you know that Love survives so we can rock FOREVER. ~ RIP MJ | |
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shellyann said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: What are "American" Values? I take it you're not American. Americans value democracy and our freedoms. I was trying to say I want someone who believes in and has always believed in democracy, not communism, to be in a position of authority. I am sure you can understand that. Americans want change.... just not that kind of change. Thanks for asking! Are you referring to the kind of democracy where big business can routinely buy its politicians? Or where political opinions who don't support the corporate agenda are carefully left out of the mainstream media? When you look at opinion polls it's clear that a significant proportion of Americans favours a single payer health system. We can discuss about the exact percentages, but why are people who support such a non-commercial, socialized approach to healthcare completely left out of the debate? Is this really democratic? Van Jones clearly repudiated his earlier left wing beliefs and has become a firm believer in the utopia of a "green capitalism". So it's not really "that" (socialist) kind of change the man stands for. Obama is back peddling because of rumours which could hurt him, and the man signed a dubious petition. If Obama had shown some strength of conviction on progressive issues, he might not have to back peddle and flee from conservative attacks that much. But that's like asking a Democratic duck to be a working class tiger. Just not very likely. | |
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marxisreal said:[quote]We can discuss about the exact percentages, but why are people who support such a non-commercial, socialized approach to healthcare completely left out of the debate? Is this really democratic?[quote]
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shellyann said: marxisreal said: We can discuss about the exact percentages, but why are people who support such a non-commercial, socialized approach to healthcare completely left out of the debate? Is this really democratic?
That is a very good point and I am not aware of exact percentages either! I think debate is occurring, unfortunately, the media is more interested in reporting the juicy stuff, like crazy town hall meetings. It is hard to trust the media for they are more concerned with ratings.They sensationalize things in order to compete for viewership. It is unfortunate, but they have to! If they had enough viewership, they would provide us with accurate and balanced news, but since they are struggling, we have to accept what is presented and apply our own discernment. Hey, It is better than nothing! | |
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2freaky4church1 said: Van Jones, the Green Energy Czar had to quit because of controversial comments he had made about Republicans and that he signed a petition saying that 9/11 was an inside job.
Jones says that he didn't read the petition well and wishes he didn't sign it and he apologized for other comments. He was first accused by the Hannities and Glenn Beck's of being a radical Communist. He is pretty progressive, but I doubt he is a radical and even if he was, who cares. Obama has Republicans in his cabinet. Jones was a communist in his college days, but he gave that up and became a capitalist. Remember, there are many on the right who were once marxists, but became righties. Obama, in my view, is throwing him under the bus, because he just doesn't want that tainting his messages about healthcare and the like. Sad, because Jones is really a talented guy on Green issues. Plus, he is highly respected in the African American community. I predict an angry march on the White House..lol That's all we need, another black guy thrown to the wolves. Glenn Beck stays on Fox but talented black guys get the shiv. Sad world. He's an admitted Communist, or at least was 2 years ago. Moreover, he's an idiot...The president showed his true lack of experience in that appointment. | |
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Alternet has a great investigative piece on why Jones was actually fired:
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shellyann said: Americans value democracy and our freedoms.
You sure? Is that why Bush was able to steal an election so he could fail to protect the nation on 9/11, start an illegal and endless war, raise the national debt with 7 trillion, fail to provide health care to 50 million Americans, fail to prevent the economy from collapsing, but succeed in effectively stripping you of your right to privacy, habeus corpus and a fair trial? - [Edited 9/10/09 11:59am] | |
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