An Archaeological Moment in Time

This is entitled "An Archaeological Moment in Time". It's basically a snapshot of life on earth 6,000 years ago on the day that God was supposed to create man.This is an awesome video and hopefully will make you really "think" about what has been taught.

Has anyone seen it? I was raised to believe that man has been here 6000 years, give or take a few. Watchtower chronology puts Adam's creation date at 4026 BCE. Yet how can the evidence be ignored? Early carved bone artifacts such as the Uganda-Zaire counting stick date to 9,000 BC; and that similar others far older have been found...the Magdelian (French) era from 15,000 BC, and the Czech Aurignacian era to 30,000 BC.




And therein lies the problem...



Man is older than the Biblical Adam and yet it was Paul who said at Romans 5:12, "Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned."

So wouldn't anyone living before the time of Adam be perfect and still among us today?

the wolly mammoth fact was cool.

I was amazed, but not surprised, that they mentioned that "the concept of math, art, geometry originated there, than 60,000 years ago in Africa, and 20,000 years before any foreign art of this kind existed anywhere else". They also said Africa is the ultimate mother country, because man existed since the dawn of our age. Interesting info indeed.


I remember watching Spencer Wells' documentary on the "Journey of Man". Quite interesting to say the least, and he also brings up "Adam's" existence, after humans were already here. Many archaeologists refer to "Eve" as being the first female, and reference her birth in Africa, long before the existence of the "Eve" in the bible. I believe the Adam and Eve in the bible moreso references, the existence of a particular race existing today and not the first humans in Africa. Also, Jesus was born many years, after many other humans already existed. Just my opinion based on research I've done and read from the words of a geneticist and other anthropologists/archaeologists
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well, 'homo' is even older: bout 2 Million years sapient dates back 2 20.000 years, truely amazing

i'm not a christian (atheist 2 b clear), but i find the bible interesting as a historical book. I think some storys in the old testament are much older than the passed down text fragments we have 2 day. I read somewhere that the story of Kain and Abel could b seen as the story of Sapients and Neanderthal - of course, you can never proof that, but i think the idea is fascinating

oh sorry, i was wrong - sapients is also much older: 120- 100.000 years

aroundtheworld said:

well, 'homo' is even older: bout 2 Million years sapient dates back 2 20.000 years, truely amazing

i'm not a christian (atheist 2 b clear), but i find the bible interesting as a historical book. I think some storys in the old testament are much older than the passed down text fragments we have 2 day. I read somewhere that the story of Kain and Abel could b seen as the story of Sapients and Neanderthal - of course, you can never proof that, but i think the idea is fascinating

aroundtheworld said:

I read somewhere that the story of Kain and Abel could b seen as the story of Sapients and Neanderthal - of course, you can never proof that, but i think the idea is fascinating

i like lucy sure the exhibition was great, here's a picture of a neanderthal-model, the artist wanted 2 show that they've been quite intelligent (unlike those beast-pictures u often find in journals/books)...i think he looks really nice

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aroundtheworld said:

i like lucy sure the exhibition was great,

2elijah said:

aroundtheworld said:

i like lucy sure the exhibition was great,

Well, have you seen the "Lucy Exhibition?" On the way out, at the end of the exhibition, they had an image of a "Neanderthal" man.

Here's the link to the exhibition:

http://lucyexhibition.hmn...hibit.aspx
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aroundtheworld said:

2elijah said:

Well, have you seen the "Lucy Exhibition?" On the way out, at the end of the exhibition, they had an image of a "Neanderthal" man.

Here's the link to the exhibition:

http://lucyexhibition.hmn...hibit.aspx
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well no - NY would b a bit far away from me (i guess i wanted 2 say: the exhibition must have been great - sorry, my german-like english )

but thank u very much for the link - what kind of neanderthal picture did they have?

the homepage looks very interesting and i'm surely gonna read the articels 2night -
(as the weather is really nice outside i'm going 2 an open air pool now....)

Thank you guys for taking the time to watch this. I thought it was truly enlightening. I wonder why there are no comments from staunch religious believers? I would really like to hear opposing views.

Thank you for the post. It's nice to learn new things and watching this video I did.

Thanks!

connorhawke said:

noimageatall said:

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SCNDLS said:

noimageatall said:

This is entitled "An Archaeological Moment in Time". It's basically a snapshot of life on earth 6,000 years ago on the day that God was supposed to create man.This is an awesome video and hopefully will make you really "think" about what has been taught.

Has anyone seen it? I was raised to believe that man has been here 6000 years, give or take a few. Watchtower chronology puts Adam's creation date at 4026 BCE. Yet how can the evidence be ignored? Early carved bone artifacts such as the Uganda-Zaire counting stick date to 9,000 BC; and that similar others far older have been found...the Magdelian (French) era from 15,000 BC, and the Czech Aurignacian era to 30,000 BC.




And therein lies the problem...



Man is older than the Biblical Adam and yet it was Paul who said at Romans 5:12, "Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned."

So wouldn't anyone living before the time of Adam be perfect and still among us today?

Girl, I remember a pastor at a Baptist church quoting that 6000 year old theory to me at Bible study. And I was like Afterwards, I asked him how is that possible when the pyramids are over 10,000 years old and dinosaurs were even older than that. That fool actually told me that the means for determining the age of artifacts, carbon dating, was a man-made construct being used by those with agendas against the church to manipulate the age of things.

Not long after that mess, I stopped going to church.
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ehuffnsd said:

SCNDLS said:

Girl, I remember a pastor at a Baptist church quoting that 6000 year old theory to me at Bible study. And I was like Afterwards, I asked him how is that possible when the pyramids are over 10,000 years old and dinosaurs were even older than that. That fool actually told me that the means for determining the age of artifacts, carbon dating, was a man-made construct being used by those with agendas against the church to manipulate the age of things.

Not long after that mess, I stopped going to church.
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http://www.answersingenesis.org/

i miss ED

You don't need directions and you don't need cash. From your Jimmy Choos to your Ultralash. ~ Prince
And when the groove is dead and gone, you know that Love survives so we can rock FOREVER. ~ RIP MJ

SCNDLS said:

ehuffnsd said:

You don't need directions and you don't need cash. From your Jimmy Choos to your Ultralash. ~ Prince
And when the groove is dead and gone, you know that Love survives so we can rock FOREVER. ~ RIP MJ

ehuffnsd said:

aroundtheworld said:

ehuffnsd said:

EternalDragon.

who used to post on all of the evolution/creation threads on here defending the Creation story.

that website scares me ... i want my mummy

You don't need directions and you don't need cash. From your Jimmy Choos to your Ultralash. ~ Prince
And when the groove is dead and gone, you know that Love survives so we can rock FOREVER. ~ RIP MJ

SCNDLS said:

ehuffnsd said:

EternalDragon.

who used to post on all of the evolution/creation threads on here defending the Creation story.

Oh!

Does that site support those theories?

Let me ask you all something.

I recently met a guy who got on his religious soapbox and started "educating" me about how the letter "J" was just invented a few hundred years making it impossible for Jesus' name to be Jesus and he said that it is in fact "Yahshua." Has anyone ever heard of this?

Thanks so much for the info. Do you have a source I can refer to?

So, why is he called Jesus in the Bible if that's not his name? Also, why do you think this is not common knowledge?
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You don't need directions and you don't need cash. From your Jimmy Choos to your Ultralash. ~ Prince
And when the groove is dead and gone, you know that Love survives so we can rock FOREVER. ~ RIP MJ

ehuffnsd said:[quote]

SCNDLS said:

SCNDLS said:

Thanks so much for the info. Do you have a source I can refer to?

So, why is he called Jesus in the Bible if that's not his name? Also, why do you think this is not common knowledge?
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ehuffnsd said:

SCNDLS said:

Thanks so much for the info. Do you have a source I can refer to?

So, why is he called Jesus in the Bible if that's not his name? Also, why do you think this is not common knowledge?
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same reason Jehovah was the translation vs Yahweh. The information that was available at the time

http://www.newadvent.org/...08374x.htm

You don't need directions and you don't need cash. From your Jimmy Choos to your Ultralash. ~ Prince
And when the groove is dead and gone, you know that Love survives so we can rock FOREVER. ~ RIP MJ

SCNDLS said:

ehuffnsd said:

You don't need directions and you don't need cash. From your Jimmy Choos to your Ultralash. ~ Prince
And when the groove is dead and gone, you know that Love survives so we can rock FOREVER. ~ RIP MJ

SCNDLS said:

ehuffnsd said:

because it's the accepted version of his name just like his mother Maryām is now known as Mary.

I think that knowing that "Jesus" is not Jesus' name at all is a pretty big deal and warrants being addressed, regardless of how accepted it may be. It's stuff like this that makes the entire Bible suspect IMO.

ehuffnsd said:

SCNDLS said:

I think that knowing that "Jesus" is not Jesus' name at all is a pretty big deal and warrants being addressed, regardless of how accepted it may be. It's stuff like this that makes the entire Bible suspect IMO.

the whole Bible is suspect. most of the Old Testament like any mythology was a national story about how the Israelis were better than their neighbors. no different than any other myth.

You don't need directions and you don't need cash. From your Jimmy Choos to your Ultralash. ~ Prince
And when the groove is dead and gone, you know that Love survives so we can rock FOREVER. ~ RIP MJ