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Q about JW's giving my kid dead parent info

My son is a month away from 16, just so you get some context here. We were away, he was home. When we got home he said a nice jehovahs witness lady came to the door and talked to him about a parent dying. Giving him a booklet of sorts turned to a story on a parent dying.

We have a sign on the door that says NO SOLICITORS.

What the heck is this? What poppycock crazy talk is this?

We are Universalist Unitarians, accepting of everyone and everyones religion. However, freaking out some kid about their parent dying is wrong.

I am waiting for this woman to come back, so I can invite her in and ask her if she has lost her cotton picking mind. Also, kindly point out the NO SOLICITORS sign.

Creepy weird JW experience, was wondering if any JW's on here could elucidate.

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Reply #1 posted 08/08/09 9:54am

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rozilla said:

My son is a month away from 16, just so you get some context here. We were away, he was home. When we got home he said a nice jehovahs witness lady came to the door and talked to him about a parent dying. Giving him a booklet of sorts turned to a story on a parent dying.

We have a sign on the door that says NO SOLICITORS.

What the heck is this? What poppycock crazy talk is this?

We are Universalist Unitarians, accepting of everyone and everyones religion. However, freaking out some kid about their parent dying is wrong.

I am waiting for this woman to come back, so I can invite her in and ask her if she has lost her cotton picking mind. Also, kindly point out the NO SOLICITORS sign.

Creepy weird JW experience, was wondering if any JW's on here could elucidate.


Surely you're not implying that your teenager was traumatized by the fact that we all die someday. There are different views on what happens to us after we are dead. Why the subject of death came up I do not know, it could have been a bible view written in one of our free magazines we distribute to those interested. There is no price tag on the magazines, they are free for your taking. I do hope you get to converse with this person and get the answers you request. I find it strange that you find the subject of death creepy, it's all around us daily. Here's a site to give you some idea how many and how.

http://www.poodwaddle.com...dclock.swf
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Reply #2 posted 08/08/09 10:41am

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rozilla contact your local kingdom hall and speak to one of the elders, tell them what happened. If you do not wish for witnesses to knock again tell the elder they should respect your wishes .The elder will have a word in the ear of the person that knocked.

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Reply #3 posted 08/08/09 11:34am

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you can't protect your kids these days from everything. Sooner or later they will come across people with different views and it's up to them to decide from what or how you raised them. Just talk to your kid about the situation and listen on how they fell about it.

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Reply #4 posted 08/08/09 12:01pm

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Sounds like a good plan, Thanks! So when I call I simply say, "May I please speak to one of the elders?" Like that?

TypoQueen said:

rozilla contact your local kingdom hall and speak to one of the elders, tell them what happened. If you do not wish for witnesses to knock again tell the elder they should respect your wishes .The elder will have a word in the ear of the person that knocked.

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Reply #5 posted 08/08/09 12:05pm

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I find a stranger coming to my door and discussing with my underage son the topic of his parents dying disconcerting. That is my opinion and how I feel about things.

I am well aware that people die, or rather transition to their next place. I do not need a clock to tell me that. Infact, I lost my father on fathers day, so I am well aware that parents die too.

You have a nice day.

rodman2 said:

rozilla said:

My son is a month away from 16, just so you get some context here. We were away, he was home. When we got home he said a nice jehovahs witness lady came to the door and talked to him about a parent dying. Giving him a booklet of sorts turned to a story on a parent dying.

We have a sign on the door that says NO SOLICITORS.

What the heck is this? What poppycock crazy talk is this?

We are Universalist Unitarians, accepting of everyone and everyones religion. However, freaking out some kid about their parent dying is wrong.

I am waiting for this woman to come back, so I can invite her in and ask her if she has lost her cotton picking mind. Also, kindly point out the NO SOLICITORS sign.

Creepy weird JW experience, was wondering if any JW's on here could elucidate.


Surely you're not implying that your teenager was traumatized by the fact that we all die someday. There are different views on what happens to us after we are dead. Why the subject of death came up I do not know, it could have been a bible view written in one of our free magazines we distribute to those interested. There is no price tag on the magazines, they are free for your taking. I do hope you get to converse with this person and get the answers you request. I find it strange that you find the subject of death creepy, it's all around us daily. Here's a site to give you some idea how many and how.

http://www.poodwaddle.com...dclock.swf
[Edited 8/8/09 9:55am]

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Reply #6 posted 08/08/09 12:52pm

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rozilla said:

Sounds like a good plan, Thanks! So when I call I simply say, "May I please speak to one of the elders?" Like that?


Yes rozilla if someone doesnt answer leave your name and phone number and one should get back to you or you could go to the Kingdom Hall and speak with one. I am so sorry to hear about your father hug

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Reply #7 posted 08/08/09 1:09pm

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Now see, if you had answered the door, would the JW talk to you about a child dying? Seems they may be tailoring their sermon for whoever answers the door. Anyway, tell your local kingdom hall that you don't want anymore visitors, they will know to steer clear of your home.

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Reply #8 posted 08/08/09 3:15pm

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rozilla said:

I find a stranger coming to my door and discussing with my underage son the topic of his parents dying disconcerting. That is my opinion and how I feel about things.

I am well aware that people die, or rather transition to their next place. I do not need a clock to tell me that. Infact, I lost my father on fathers day, so I am well aware that parents die too.

You have a nice day.



It is probably this transition to the next place, that my brothers or sisters were asking to discuss, for our views on what the bible says about what becomes of us after death is generally different then most christian denominations. The bible is the best reference for this subject, don't you think.

Jesus taught his apostles and followers to go to the doors of people in each city and town to talk about God's kingdom here on earth, and God's purpose for us, and what the bible counsels us on how to live each day. Talking about the bible should not be a nuisance or fearsome if one is attending church and believing in the bible. I'm certain that many turned the apostles away from their message. The message has not changed, that is why we have the bible to study and learn.

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Reply #9 posted 08/08/09 5:03pm

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TypoQueen said:

rozilla contact your local kingdom hall and speak to one of the elders, tell them what happened. If you do not wish for witnesses to knock again tell the elder they should respect your wishes .The elder will have a word in the ear of the person that knocked.

If they have a "No Solicitors" sign posted, shouldn't that be enough?

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Reply #10 posted 08/08/09 5:38pm

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meow85 said:

TypoQueen said:

rozilla contact your local kingdom hall and speak to one of the elders, tell them what happened. If you do not wish for witnesses to knock again tell the elder they should respect your wishes .The elder will have a word in the ear of the person that knocked.

If they have a "No Solicitors" sign posted, shouldn't that be enough?

meow85 I only know about the country I live in (UK). If a "No Solicitors" "No cold calling" "No trespassing" sign is up it is respected.

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Reply #11 posted 08/08/09 5:49pm

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My religion isn't bible based, its more of a humanist based tradition. You know, social justice, loving each other, tolerance, because it is the right thing to do, not because otherwise you go to hell.

My husband is a buddhist, whose religion doesn't have a jesus. Or a bible. Or a hell.


rodman2 said:

rozilla said:

I find a stranger coming to my door and discussing with my underage son the topic of his parents dying disconcerting. That is my opinion and how I feel about things.

I am well aware that people die, or rather transition to their next place. I do not need a clock to tell me that. Infact, I lost my father on fathers day, so I am well aware that parents die too.

You have a nice day.



It is probably this transition to the next place, that my brothers or sisters were asking to discuss, for our views on what the bible says about what becomes of us after death is generally different then most christian denominations. The bible is the best reference for this subject, don't you think.

Jesus taught his apostles and followers to go to the doors of people in each city and town to talk about God's kingdom here on earth, and God's purpose for us, and what the bible counsels us on how to live each day. Talking about the bible should not be a nuisance or fearsome if one is attending church and believing in the bible. I'm certain that many turned the apostles away from their message. The message has not changed, that is why we have the bible to study and learn.

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Reply #12 posted 08/08/09 5:50pm

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I wanted to add, besides the sign, our house sits back from the street. You have to really want to get up to the door to get here. The flowers are growing like crazy over the walk and its a steep hike.

meow85 said:

TypoQueen said:

rozilla contact your local kingdom hall and speak to one of the elders, tell them what happened. If you do not wish for witnesses to knock again tell the elder they should respect your wishes .The elder will have a word in the ear of the person that knocked.

If they have a "No Solicitors" sign posted, shouldn't that be enough?

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Reply #13 posted 08/08/09 6:06pm

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rozilla said:

I wanted to add, besides the sign, our house sits back from the street. You have to really want to get up to the door to get here. The flowers are growing like crazy over the walk and its a steep hike.

meow85 said:


If they have a "No Solicitors" sign posted, shouldn't that be enough?

I personally think what that witness did was so wrong Rozilla. I do not know one person that would converse on topics without parental/guardians consent. It's not the done thing here.

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Reply #14 posted 08/08/09 6:09pm

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TypoQueen said:

meow85 said:


If they have a "No Solicitors" sign posted, shouldn't that be enough?

meow85 I only know about the country I live in (UK). If a "No Solicitors" "No cold calling" "No trespassing" sign is up it is respected.

It generally is here (Canada) too. Maybe in the U.S. it's taken more as a suggestion....?

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Reply #15 posted 08/08/09 6:10pm

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rozilla said:[quote]I wanted to add, besides the sign, our house sits back from the street. You have to really want to get up to the door to get here. The flowers are growing like crazy over the walk and its a steep hike.

Sounds like they were pretty determined to overstep their bounds. lol

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Reply #16 posted 08/08/09 7:56pm

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Atleast she could of taken some of the chocolate mint that went from one plant to atleast 50 over the Summer. lol

When I was 4 my parents sent me to the door with liquor bottles to offer to the JW. Goodness.

This is my church.

http://uuaa.org/

Anyone of any faith is welcome, I made a promise to the Universe/Goddess/God that if my baby and I could survive a unscheduled c-section, I would go to church again.

As a child, I went to all kinds of churches, I have always been searching for a home and found that what felt right was eclectic.

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Reply #17 posted 08/09/09 12:33am

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rozilla said:

Sounds like a good plan, Thanks! So when I call I simply say, "May I please speak to one of the elders?" Like that?

TypoQueen said:

rozilla contact your local kingdom hall and speak to one of the elders, tell them what happened. If you do not wish for witnesses to knock again tell the elder they should respect your wishes .The elder will have a word in the ear of the person that knocked.


This may help, rozilla.
http://www.jehovahswitnes...-list.html

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Reply #18 posted 08/09/09 12:42am

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What a crude over reaction. rolleyes

rozilla said:

We have a sign on the door that says NO SOLICITORS.


I fail to see how your sign bears any relation to Jehovah's Witnesses. confuse

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Reply #19 posted 08/09/09 2:12am

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I'm not sure the "no solicitation" sign has much relevance here. I sort of understand that as "no sales pitches," and the Witnesses aren't selling anything so much as simply wanting to talk. shrug BUT the fact a minor was engaged and left literature about possibly sensitive information -- in their own home -- without the oversight of an adult does sort of seem sketchy. Well meaning, I'm sure, and probably not particularly traumatizing at age 16, but sketchy nonetheless.

I know respect for authority is important to the Witnesses, so in best practice and for the good of all parties involved, maybe they should make it policy to ask for an adult of the house.

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Reply #20 posted 08/09/09 2:22am

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rozilla said:

My religion isn't bible based, its more of a humanist based tradition. You know, social justice, loving each other, tolerance, because it is the right thing to do, not because otherwise you go to hell.

My husband is a buddhist, whose religion doesn't have a jesus. Or a bible. Or a hell.


rodman2 said:



It is probably this transition to the next place, that my brothers or sisters were asking to discuss, for our views on what the bible says about what becomes of us after death is generally different then most christian denominations. The bible is the best reference for this subject, don't you think.

Jesus taught his apostles and followers to go to the doors of people in each city and town to talk about God's kingdom here on earth, and God's purpose for us, and what the bible counsels us on how to live each day. Talking about the bible should not be a nuisance or fearsome if one is attending church and believing in the bible. I'm certain that many turned the apostles away from their message. The message has not changed, that is why we have the bible to study and learn.


Sorry for the misunderstanding, I respect both yours and your husband's choice in belief systems. We do not believe in hell either. Only by talking can we begin to learn each others reasoning on our faiths. When we come to your door we are not selling, only sharing.

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Reply #21 posted 08/09/09 4:17am

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JWs aren't peddlers or selling anything, so your sign may need to be more specific.

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Reply #22 posted 08/09/09 6:39am

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Lammastide said:

maybe they should make it policy to ask for an adult of the house.


That's what I do but it can be a little tricky because it's not always clear if it's someone under say 16 or over for that matter. If it's clear I'll simply ask if their Mum or Dad is in? In this stated case with a 15 year old and no parents at home I would still offer the magazines. What's the big deal? You either accept or you don't, you either read or you don't you either agree or disagree with their content. eek

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Reply #23 posted 08/09/09 8:18am

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rozilla said:

When I was 4 my parents sent me to the door with liquor bottles to offer to the JW. Goodness.


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FreeChild said:

JWs aren't peddlers or selling anything, so your sign may need to be more specific.


That's true. It should have said NO PESTS.

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Reply #25 posted 08/09/09 11:21am

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meow85 said:

TypoQueen said:

rozilla contact your local kingdom hall and speak to one of the elders, tell them what happened. If you do not wish for witnesses to knock again tell the elder they should respect your wishes .The elder will have a word in the ear of the person that knocked.

If they have a "No Solicitors" sign posted, shouldn't that be enough?


You would think so, but those signs can be interpreted by some as just meaning "don't try to make me buy stuff" and therefore they ignore them.

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Reply #26 posted 08/09/09 12:16pm

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My son, Miles, is very polite. I am sure he didn't want to be rude to this woman.

Some woman came to the door selling security systems, when I said that we had a sign saying no solicitors she said, 'I thought it said no smoking.' That too.

Need another sign or two, I suppose.

I would think that a person coming to the door to represent a religion would in fact be, selling that religion. But that is arguing semantics.

On a day like today however, we would invite a JW in for a cold beverage, with a heat index of 101, and 99999% humidity, no one should be out baking for any higher power.

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NewSystem said:

What a crude over reaction. rolleyes

rozilla said:

We have a sign on the door that says NO SOLICITORS.


I fail to see how your sign bears any relation to Jehovah's Witnesses. confuse

I hope you're joking.

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Reply #28 posted 08/09/09 1:28pm

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FreeChild said:

JWs aren't peddlers or selling anything, so your sign may need to be more specific.

The hell they aren't. They're trying to talk people into ditching their own spiritual beliefs for their own product. Just because money isn't changing hands, doesn't mean there's no sales pitch.

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Reply #29 posted 08/09/09 9:12pm

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rozilla said:

My son, Miles, is very polite. I am sure he didn't want to be rude to this woman.

Some woman came to the door selling security systems, when I said that we had a sign saying no solicitors she said, 'I thought it said no smoking.' That too.

Need another sign or two, I suppose.

I would think that a person coming to the door to represent a religion would in fact be, selling that religion. But that is arguing semantics.

On a day like today however, we would invite a JW in for a cold beverage, with a heat index of 101, and 99999% humidity, no one should be out baking for any higher power.

Testify.


Your sign should have been respected, period. There's no excuse. Furthermore, even if there was no sign, no one should be addressing your child at the door except to ask if the parents are home. Period.

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