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President Clinton meets Lil' Kim (US JOURNALISTS PARDONED) http://www.nytimes.com/20...ea.html?hp
Former President Bill Clinton met on Tuesday with Kim Jong-il, the reclusive and ailing leader of North Korea, while on a visit to negotiate the release of two imprisoned American television journalists, North Korean state media reported.
The high-level meeting, along with welcoming gestures from the regime, added to speculation among analysts in Seoul that North Korea, after months of raising tensions and hostile rhetoric towards Washington, may be ready to return to dialogue with Washington. That notion was reinforced by North Korea’s Central TV, which reported that Mr. Kim and Mr. Clinton “exchanged a broad range of opinions on issues of mutual interest.” Tensions have been high since a nuclear test by the North on May 25 and the subsequent American-led effort to impose international sanctions against the North. Administration officials sought to temper suggestions that Mr. Clinton would engage in sweeping discussions with Mr. Kim about North Korea’s nuclear program. His brief, one official said, was strictly limited to the imprisoned journalists. I don't think for a minute that this is strictly a private mission. But this is the part that really bummed me out: In December, 2000, the last days of his presidency, he came close to traveling to the country in hopes of striking a deal to contain North Korea’s missiles. Mr. Clinton ultimately decided not to go because the deal was not pre-cooked, and his advisers feared he would be appearing desperate for an end-of-presidency deal.
Now let's say he had gone and struck a deal. Would it matter that it was a "desperate end of presidency deal"? It sucks that a president has to worry about how opponents and the media will portray them when the possible outcome could have been a non-nuclear N. Korea. Bus Wankers! |
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Things are never how they appear to be.
Wars are fought by the poor, paid for by the middle class, and only benefit the few rich. | |
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2:19 CST CNN is reporting the 2 journalists have been pardoned by N. Korea.
Update | 3:13 p.m. According to Reuters, North Korea’s official news agency, KCNA, reports that Kim Jong-il, the country’s leader, has granted the two American journalists a “special pardon,” on Tuesday, which releases them from detention, following a meeting with former President Bill Clinton in Pyongyang on Tuesday. Reuters reports that KCNA issued the following statement:
Kim Jong-il issued an order of the chairman of the DPRK National Defence Commission on granting a special pardon to the two American journalists who had been sentenced to hard labor in accordance with Article 103 of the Socialist Constitution and releasing them. Bus Wankers! |
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That is cool for the two journalists.
“When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara |
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President Clinton has just upstaged President Obama.
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We gotta lock your thread..only fair..lol  Wave your wildsigns high!! | |
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Obama sent Clinton. This is Obama's victory. Wave your wildsigns high!! | |
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It is a victory for these young ladies. I am pretty sure that president Obama doesn't care who gets the credit, just as long as these ladies are safe, returning home soon, and are in good hands. “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara |
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What I really like about all of this, thank God, Allah, JW, Ghost Busters, whoever you believe in, that this happened under president Obama's watch. If this happened under president Bush II.....OMG!!! “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara |
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2freaky4church1 said: Obama sent Clinton. This is Obama's victory.
shouldnt he of sent Hillary? not Bill? Wars are fought by the poor, paid for by the middle class, and only benefit the few rich. | |
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If we can talk to that crazy sumbitch we can talk to anybody, even Satan himself..lol Wave your wildsigns high!! | |
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Yea, diplomacy! Wave your wildsigns high!! | |
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suga10 said: President Clinton has just upstaged President Obama.
Lee and Ling have just been released and pardoned. http://www.huffingtonpost...50682.html [Edited 8/4/09 12:53pm] The White House officials knew about it, but kept it quiet. President Obama obviously knew about Bill's mission to do this. It's obvious they had to keep things quiet for the safety of the two journalists. http://www.huffingtonpost...50682.html However, the decision to send the former president was kept quiet. A senior U.S. official told reporters traveling Tuesday with Hillary Rodham Clinton that the White House would not comment on the trip to Pyongyang until the mission was complete. "While this solely private mission to secure the release of two Americans is on the ground, we will have no comment," Gibbs, the White House spokesman, said later in a statement from Washington. "We do not want to jeopardize the success of former President Clinton's mission." [Edited 8/4/09 13:23pm] The patience and love I am blessed with, is the golden key for my strength and survival.  | |
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2freaky4church1 said: Obama sent Clinton. This is Obama's victory.
Exactly. not too soon after their capture, someone from Obama's administration stating they were working on a solution to bring the journalists home. [Edited 8/4/09 14:12pm] The patience and love I am blessed with, is the golden key for my strength and survival. | |
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See what happens when the Dems are in charge? We don't rush to war,we negotiate,we discuss and we work problems out,without risking any lives | |
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SoulAlive said: See what happens when the Dems are in charge? We don't rush to war,we negotiate,we discuss and we work problems out,without risking any lives
  ....and sometimes have a beer and talk about it.  [Edited 8/4/09 14:11pm] The patience and love I am blessed with, is the golden key for my strength and survival. | |
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SoulAlive said: See what happens when the Dems are in charge? We don't rush to war,we negotiate,we discuss and we work problems out,without risking any lives
Jesse Ventura would agree with you. Like Jesse said, War should be THE very last resort if peace talks AND diplomacy fails. The one thing that neo-conservatives always get wrong is that they never try to talk to their enemies "face to face". Imagine how many things would be different if Bush Jr. knew how to talk to Kim, Saddam, or Osama "face to face". OK, Osama is pushing it! But you know what I mean.  Symbolism is a hell of a weapon against humanity! |
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...May the fierce be with you...  | |
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Dont worry, Lil Kim will not back down on his promises of nuclear armement. Wars are fought by the poor, paid for by the middle class, and only benefit the few rich. | |
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matthewgrant said:  Lil' Kim
but good job. And I thought I was the only one who noticed that."I´ve been robbed of most of my money, can I at least get a blow job?"
"A lot of men don´t like eating pussy and I have a problem with that!" Now guess where those quotes are from and you might win a coupon for some licky licky action | |
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JellyBean said: What I really like about all of this, thank God, Allah, JW, Ghost Busters, whoever you believe in, that this happened under president Obama's watch. If this happened under president Bush II.....OMG!!! THANK YOU!!! 
See what talking gets you? Ladies will be released. Nobody had to send in the F16s and other crazy stuff. Talking works. "Never allow someone to be your priority while allowing yourself to be their option." - Mark Twain
Proud new member of the Org Cock Mafia. | |
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Wonder if Bill got a special sandwich on the flight back. If I Ever Find Jesus, I'm Kickin His Ass. |
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This is just AWESOME! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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2freaky4church1 said: We gotta lock your thread..only fair..lol
When I saw the title I thought it was really about Lil Kim, Haiti..."L'union fait la force"... | |
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lazycrockett said: Wonder if Bill got a special sandwich on the flight back.
Tell me, do you teach courses in cynicism? Haiti..."L'union fait la force"... | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: This is just AWESOME!
 X infinity!!!!!Have a happy and loving 2010
Love Lead Live Create Inspire Copyright 2005 NEW SITE- http://www.mihadali.com LOVE M | |
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2elijah said: suga10 said: President Clinton has just upstaged President Obama.
Lee and Ling have just been released and pardoned. http://www.huffingtonpost...50682.html [Edited 8/4/09 12:53pm] The White House officials knew about it, but kept it quiet. President Obama obviously knew about Bill's mission to do this. It's obvious they had to keep things quiet for the safety of the two journalists. exactly! I love it when diplomacy rocks it. "I think one of the things that we're probably proudest of -- I certainly am -- is that the message was always love, in any form we portrayed it." - Paul McCartney | |
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2elijah said: suga10 said: President Clinton has just upstaged President Obama.
Lee and Ling have just been released and pardoned. http://www.huffingtonpost...50682.html [Edited 8/4/09 12:53pm] The White House officials knew about it, but kept it quiet. President Obama obviously knew about Bill's mission to do this. It's obvious they had to keep things quiet for the safety of the two journalists. http://www.huffingtonpost...50682.html However, the decision to send the former president was kept quiet. A senior U.S. official told reporters traveling Tuesday with Hillary Rodham Clinton that the White House would not comment on the trip to Pyongyang until the mission was complete. "While this solely private mission to secure the release of two Americans is on the ground, we will have no comment," Gibbs, the White House spokesman, said later in a statement from Washington. "We do not want to jeopardize the success of former President Clinton's mission." [Edited 8/4/09 13:23pm] Precisely. It's not as if he was acting as an independent agent and just up and decided to go on his own with unmarked state transportion, state security protection, and political entourage. He went as an envoy. | |
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suga10 said: President Clinton has just upstaged President Obama.
No,nobody "upstaged" anyone.This was a team effort that paid off. | |
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lazycrockett said: Wonder if Bill got a special sandwich on the flight back.
You so nasty  | |
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