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What is a religous man/woman?

What is a religous man/woman?

Is it someone who is open to life from moment to moment, free from belief, dogma and the practice of rituals? Someone who doesn t belong to an organized religion?

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Reply #1 posted 07/17/09 8:42am

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Someone who recognises that there is a higher self...something that they can tap into...either 'outside' or within...that binds all humanity together...as one...

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Reply #2 posted 07/17/09 10:18am

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I'd like to know that myself since nobody's religious they're spiritual, anyway.

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Reply #3 posted 07/17/09 10:20am

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it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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Reply #4 posted 07/17/09 10:24am

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Those nuns are female right?

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Reply #5 posted 07/17/09 10:36am

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lol okay, and the catholics have it.


my bishop (may he RIP) met and ate (broke bread) with him once when JP came to SD decades ago, I think that was the greatest moment of his life he was so estatic.

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Reply #6 posted 07/17/09 10:38am

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morningsong said:

ehuffnsd said:




lol okay, and the catholics have it.


my bishop (may he RIP) met and ate (broke bread) with him once when JP came to SD decades ago, I think that was the greatest moment of his life he was so estatic.

my grandparents and my great aunt, who's a nun, went and saw him in St Louis and it was the highlight of their lives.


what are you doing tomorrow?

it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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Reply #7 posted 07/17/09 10:45am

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morningsong said:

I'd like to know that myself since nobody's religious they're spiritual, anyway.



ah people are religious

religious people can be varied

that word is used only 1 time in the bible
and it said basically: A man or woman that cannot bridle their tongue, their religion is in vain.

that's in the book of James and he was talking a lot of the power of the tongue
I believe religion in that passage is dealing with the person search for a closer relationship with God

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We don't let society tell us how it's supposed 2 be
Our clothes, our hair, we don't care
It's all about being there...
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Reply #8 posted 07/17/09 11:27am

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ehuffnsd said:

morningsong said:




lol okay, and the catholics have it.


my bishop (may he RIP) met and ate (broke bread) with him once when JP came to SD decades ago, I think that was the greatest moment of his life he was so estatic.

my grandparents and my great aunt, who's a nun, went and saw him in St Louis and it was the highlight of their lives.


what are you doing tomorrow?


lol I know it was, but they're catholic, they'd better be. Our church wasn't anywhere near catholic, but he was very big on interfaiths coming together. I miss him.

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Reply #9 posted 07/17/09 11:30am

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morningsong said:

ehuffnsd said:


my grandparents and my great aunt, who's a nun, went and saw him in St Louis and it was the highlight of their lives.


what are you doing tomorrow?


lol I know it was, but they're catholic, they'd better be. Our church wasn't anywhere near catholic, but he was very big on interfaiths coming together. I miss him.

working the american idol live at the arena, why, what's up?


San Diego Lesbian Gay Bisexual & Transgender Pride Parade and Festival in Hillcrest. thought i'd look for you on the parade route and stuff.

it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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Reply #10 posted 07/17/09 12:57pm

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ehuffnsd said:

morningsong said:



lol I know it was, but they're catholic, they'd better be. Our church wasn't anywhere near catholic, but he was very big on interfaiths coming together. I miss him.

working the american idol live at the arena, why, what's up?


San Diego Lesbian Gay Bisexual & Transgender Pride Parade and Festival in Hillcrest. thought i'd look for you on the parade route and stuff.



That's cool, I didn't even realize it's that time of year. You're event will be more exciting than mine, imma be so bored (not an Idol fan) but gotta pay the bills. George is next week, that'll be fun.

Anyway back to the thread...

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Reply #11 posted 07/17/09 1:08pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

morningsong said:

I'd like to know that myself since nobody's religious they're spiritual, anyway.



ah people are religious

religious people can be varied

that word is used only 1 time in the bible
and it said basically: A man or woman that cannot bridle their tongue, their religion is in vain.

that's in the book of James and he was talking a lot of the power of the tongue
I believe religion in that passage is dealing with the person search for a closer relationship with God


People aren't religious nowadays, it's a bad thing to be, you're labelled a fanatic or something. People have to be spiritual to be acceptable, to believe in God is okay, just not religious about it. There's a scripture on that, too, believeing in God. I realize it's just a play on words more than anything else, regarding the institution. I just have a thing about labels and boxes.

I would say being religious is about what you're willing to do, in support of what you believe. Some folks believe in some pretty harmful things unfortunately, which I guess is the major problem.

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Reply #12 posted 07/17/09 1:25pm

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religious people are more people that follow the tenats of the religion and the ritual.

people that go to church every week are religious.

it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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Reply #13 posted 07/17/09 5:07pm

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hmm, interesting. what happens when someone doesn't fit that desciption yet, still calls themselves religious?

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Reply #14 posted 07/17/09 5:37pm

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morningsong said:

hmm, interesting. what happens when someone doesn't fit that desciption yet, still calls themselves religious?

than they aren't

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Reply #15 posted 07/19/09 4:26am

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morningsong said:

I'd like to know that myself since nobody's religious they're spiritual, anyway.


What do you mean by the word spiritual?

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Reply #16 posted 07/19/09 4:27am

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funkyandy said:

Someone who recognises that there is a higher self...something that they can tap into...either 'outside' or within...that binds all humanity together...as one...


What s the higher self?

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Reply #17 posted 07/21/09 10:49am

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ehuffnsd said:

morningsong said:

hmm, interesting. what happens when someone doesn't fit that desciption yet, still calls themselves religious?

than they aren't



So it's about the doctrine of a particular organization that makes one religious? I don't fully agree, but I guess thinking about it as a Christian there are certain universal rituals practiced even as a multi-denominational, feet washing, communion.

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Reply #18 posted 07/21/09 10:51am

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ConsciousContact said:

morningsong said:

I'd like to know that myself since nobody's religious they're spiritual, anyway.


What do you mean by the word spiritual?


Honestly, I really don't know what that means exactly. Truthfully, sounds like a loose term someone says when they don't want to be blackballed or something.

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Reply #19 posted 07/21/09 3:47pm

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morningsong said:

ConsciousContact said:



What do you mean by the word spiritual?


Honestly, I really don't know what that means exactly. Truthfully, sounds like a loose term someone says when they don't want to be blackballed or something.


Basically I think it means that your not an atheist. You may or may not belong to a particular religion but you don't believe that humanity is the highest lifeform in the universe and you may pray and meditate.

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Reply #20 posted 07/21/09 5:39pm

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dollwoman said:

morningsong said:



Honestly, I really don't know what that means exactly. Truthfully, sounds like a loose term someone says when they don't want to be blackballed or something.


Basically I think it means that your not an atheist. You may or may not belong to a particular religion but you don't believe that humanity is the highest lifeform in the universe and you may pray and meditate.


I heard it brought up many times in a lot of places and there seems to be as shift in word usage, one is not religious but spiritual. I've always taken it as someone who doesn't wish to be identified with any particular group, especially, in these times of radicalism. If one is religious then they labelled as radical, yet then when one says spiritual then it comes off kind of non-committal, regardless of whether they are committed to a certain way of life, which to me is religious.

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Reply #21 posted 07/22/09 2:04pm

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It deffinately seems to be "cooler" to be thought of as spiritual. It's as if your not manipulated by any dogma that's out there. It may be a way of saying I am connected to my higher power and I do not need any organized religion to help me pray.

In AA your higher power can be anything you want it to be. I think alot of people, both 12 step members and non-12 step members, got into this deffinition. A Voodoo Priest can say he's spiritual and so can a Wicca member.

I think of the song "Immersion" and the line about spiritual healer. That song would be OK with any new age person I know because it's more vaguely about Baptism than Elixer is about oral sex. In Diamonds and Pearls the first song says the name Jesus in the first line. There was no doubt that the writer believed in Christ being Jesus. Lotusflow3r doesn't point to any belief system never mind religion.

I guess my point is that calling oneself spiritual verses religious is much safer, and less controversial.

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Reply #22 posted 07/22/09 2:10pm

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morningsong said:

ConsciousContact said:



What do you mean by the word spiritual?


Honestly, I really don't know what that means exactly. Truthfully, sounds like a loose term someone says when they don't want to be blackballed or something.

i think that's one of Hiin's alters no reason to engage it.

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Reply #23 posted 07/22/09 3:08pm

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ehuffnsd said:

religious people are more people that follow the tenats of the religion and the ritual.

people that go to church every week are religious.



what if you fall asleep or go there for the free food and music? confuse just a thought

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Reply #24 posted 07/22/09 5:23pm

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ehuffnsd said:

religious people are more people that follow the tenats of the religion and the ritual.

people that go to church every week are religious.


nod and very much "traditionalists"... they take their rituals very seriously. These rituals are what they consider that makes them feel closer to the god they choose to worship.

For instance, many Christians of different denominations baptize differently, but HOW they go about doing it has become very ritualized and even though it is a symbolic gesture, many will claim a person is not a "true" Christian unless the symbolic ritual has been performed. confused
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Reply #25 posted 07/23/09 9:50am

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ehuffnsd said:

morningsong said:



Honestly, I really don't know what that means exactly. Truthfully, sounds like a loose term someone says when they don't want to be blackballed or something.

i think that's one of Hiin's alters no reason to engage it.



Oh Hiin doesn't bother me though I may not agree with him. Of course when he goes into that rigid competitive chessmaster mode...

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Reply #26 posted 07/23/09 10:37am

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ConsciousContact said:

What is a religous man/woman?

Is it someone who is open to life from moment to moment, free from belief, dogma and the practice of rituals? Someone who doesn t belong to an organized religion?


I find religious people to be quite the opposite from being open to life or free from belief of rituals(christians want me to be a symbolic vampire and cannibal ... communion).

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Reply #27 posted 07/23/09 10:39am

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ehuffnsd said:



The pimp and his h@'s? cool

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Reply #28 posted 07/23/09 10:40am

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funkyandy said:

Someone who recognises that there is a higher self...something that they can tap into...either 'outside' or [b]within...that binds all humanity together...as one.[/b]..


That's spirituality. wink

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Reply #29 posted 07/23/09 11:56am

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How can you adequately define a religious person? what one person considers to be religious another person might consider slacking off. what one person considers slacking off another person might consider fanatical. I think it varies among the types of religion.

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