The final word: The JW's condemn homosexuality.

Right from the horses mouth:

http://www.watchtower.org...cle_01.htm

Either Prince is a bigot or he is no real JW.

Wave your wildsigns high!!

2freaky4church1 said:

Bring back

Oh? Noooo! Get outta here! Really?

Then why did you believe Prince when he said he didn't hate gays?..lol

Not putting you down Jay, since I am hot for u..lol

Wave your wildsigns high!!

Fuck them and fuck religion.

2freaky4church1 said:

....according to faith..it is God who creates us...Divine providence forms us as we are...our genes..our temperaments..our time and place in history..our talents..our gifts..our weaknesses....all are part of God's inscrutable and L-O-V-Eing plan for us...so somehow God must be behind the fact that some poeple are homosexual..then why should God's word in the Bible condemn homosexuality?...there must be a mistake in the reasoning somwhere....
...mzsexybaby

2freaky4church1 said:

2freaky4church1 said:

...many of those who are homosexual have been raised to believe in the Bible..and they have been told that it condemns homosexuality...they are really blind...their family and friends...who know they are good people...also feel caught in a bind...it looks as if homosexual people have to give up their religion or else....which seems impossible...give up their sexuality..
..mzsexybaby

this part doesn't make sense to me at all.

http://www.watchtower.org...cle_01.htm
Some say that homosexuality is rooted in the genes. Others say it is a learned behavior. It is not the purpose of this article to delve into the “nature-versus-nurture” debate. Indeed, it seems that it would be a gross oversimplification to attribute homosexuality to a single cause. Homosexuality—much like other forms of behavior—appears to be far more complex than that.

Regardless of the cause, the important thing to realize is that the Bible condemns homosexual acts. Thus, the person who is struggling with same-sex desires is presented with a reachable goal—he or she can choose not to act on those desires. To illustrate: A person might be “disposed to rage.” (Proverbs 29:22) In the past he may have freely given in to fits of anger. After studying the Bible, though, he becomes aware of the need to develop self-control. Does this mean that he will never again feel anger welling up inside him? No. However, because he knows what the Bible says about uncontrolled anger, he refuses to succumb to his feelings. It is similar with a person who has felt attracted to others of the same sex but who has now come to learn what the Bible says about homosexual practices. On occasion, an improper desire may still present itself. Nevertheless, by heeding the counsel of the Bible, the person can refrain from acting on that desire.

Granted, same-sex desires may be strongly entrenched. Be assured, though, that even deeply rooted wrong desires are not insurmountable. (1 Corinthians 9:27; Ephesians 4:22-24) Ultimately, you are in control of how you will live. (Matthew 7:13, 14; Romans 12:1, 2) And despite claims to the contrary, you can learn to control your impulses—or at least refrain from acting on them.



so if they are not going to enter the debate of nature versus nurture then why speak on it at all?
why do they choose these scriptures?

1 Corinthians 9:27 (New International Version)
27No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.

Matthew 7:13 (New International Version)
13"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.



okay this one i guess fits what they are saying.

Ephesians 4:22-24 (New International Version)
22You were taught, with regard to your former way of life, to put off your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires; 23to be made new in the attitude of your minds; 24and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness.

" LOVE YOU 4EVA GRANDMA LOLA, WATCH OVER US TILL WE MEET AGAIN. PRINCE: WH3N U L3T TH3 RAIN FALL DOWN, TH3Y ALL GONNA G3T W3T!

...sexuality is part and parcel of the human capacity for L-O-V-E...for we are not just intellectual beings...making calculated decisions to cherish somebody....we are emotional and physical..too...
..all this is what means to be a human being...and all this comes into play when human L-O-V-E is on the scene..
..mzsexybaby

...the MISTAKE IS HOW THE BIBLE IS READ...
...mzsexybaby

mzkqueen03 said:

...sexuality is part and parcel of the human capacity for L-O-V-E...for we are not just intellectual beings...making calculated decisions to cherish somebody....we are emotional and physical..too...
..all this is what means to be a human being...and all this comes into play when human L-O-V-E is on the scene..
..mzsexybaby

" LOVE YOU 4EVA GRANDMA LOLA, WATCH OVER US TILL WE MEET AGAIN. PRINCE: WH3N U L3T TH3 RAIN FALL DOWN, TH3Y ALL GONNA G3T W3T!

mzkqueen03 said:

...the MISTAKE IS HOW THE BIBLE IS READ...
...mzsexybaby

" LOVE YOU 4EVA GRANDMA LOLA, WATCH OVER US TILL WE MEET AGAIN. PRINCE: WH3N U L3T TH3 RAIN FALL DOWN, TH3Y ALL GONNA G3T W3T!

...WORDS DON'T ALWAYS MEAN WHAT THEY SAY...
.
..it is important to pay attention to the different ways of reading a text....especially when dealing with ancient texts..like the Bible...the words might suggest one thing to us in the 21st century but have meant something VERY different to the people who wrote them long ago...
..mzsexybaby

mzkqueen03 said:

...WORDS DON'T ALWAYS MEAN WHAT THEY SAY...
.
..it is important to pay attention to the different ways of reading a text....especially when dealing with ancient texts..like the Bible...the words might suggest one thing to us in the 21st century but have meant something VERY different to the people who wrote them long ago...
..mzsexybaby

" LOVE YOU 4EVA GRANDMA LOLA, WATCH OVER US TILL WE MEET AGAIN. PRINCE: WH3N U L3T TH3 RAIN FALL DOWN, TH3Y ALL GONNA G3T W3T!

...there are two different approaches to interpreting the Bible...the 'literal reading'...and the 'historial-critical' reading...these 2 are parallels to the miraculous and the down-to-earth approaches to religion..
..mzsexybaby

..the literal readind claims to take the text simply for what it says...this approach of Fundamentalism...it claims not to be intrepeting the text but merely to be reading it as it stands...clearly..however..even Fundamentalism follows a rule of interpretation...a simple and easy rule...the rule is that a text means whatever it means to somebody reading it today...
..mzsexybaby

mzkqueen03 said:

..the literal readind claims to take the text simply for what it says...this approach of Fundamentalism...it claims not to be intrepeting the text but merely to be reading it as it stands...clearly..however..even Fundamentalism follows a rule of interpretation...a simple and easy rule...the rule is that a text means whatever it means to somebody reading it today...
..mzsexybaby

" LOVE YOU 4EVA GRANDMA LOLA, WATCH OVER US TILL WE MEET AGAIN. PRINCE: WH3N U L3T TH3 RAIN FALL DOWN, TH3Y ALL GONNA G3T W3T!

...compare the other approach..the historical-critical reading...the rule here is that a text means whatever it meant to the people who wrote it long ago...to say what a biblical teaches us today...you 1st have to UNDERSTAND the text in its ORIGINAL situation and then apply the meaning to the present situation....Jesus' teaching about the eye of the needle...in the down-to-earth approach...is a good example..
..mzsexybaby

the bible says thou shalt not kill.

i say sometimes it may be damn neccessary. present meaning to present situations.

" LOVE YOU 4EVA GRANDMA LOLA, WATCH OVER US TILL WE MEET AGAIN. PRINCE: WH3N U L3T TH3 RAIN FALL DOWN, TH3Y ALL GONNA G3T W3T!

...historical-critical study of the Bible oftentimes reverses some long-standing intrepretations and raises very serious questions about religion and society..no wonder the churches are hesitant...they are sometimes left wondering what to teach...no wonder Fundamentalism has taken a harder line...the new historical input can leave the older understanding of religion dissolving before our eyes...
.
...IT IS IMPORTANT TO APPRECIATE THE DELICATENESS OF THIS MATTER OF BIBLICAL INTREPRETATION...
..mzsexybaby

mzkqueen03 said:

...historical-critical study of the Bible oftentimes reverses some long-standing intrepretations and raises very serious questions about religion and society..no wonder the churches are hesitant...they are sometimes left wondering what to teach...no wonder Fundamentalism has taken a harder line...the new historical input can leave the older understanding of religion dissolving before our eyes...
.
...IT IS IMPORTANT TO APPRECIATE THE DELICATENESS OF THIS MATTER OF BIBLICAL INTREPRETATION...
..mzsexybaby

" LOVE YOU 4EVA GRANDMA LOLA, WATCH OVER US TILL WE MEET AGAIN. PRINCE: WH3N U L3T TH3 RAIN FALL DOWN, TH3Y ALL GONNA G3T W3T!

...but it is also important not to hide the facts as we now know them...to do so would be to violate a core value of the Judeo-Christian tradition...to do so would be to ignore a value for which Jesus lived and died....even as John 8:32 has Jesus say....."the TRUTH will set you free"...
..mzsexybaby

DesireeNevermind said:

mzkqueen03 said:

...historical-critical study of the Bible oftentimes reverses some long-standing intrepretations and raises very serious questions about religion and society..no wonder the churches are hesitant...they are sometimes left wondering what to teach...no wonder Fundamentalism has taken a harder line...the new historical input can leave the older understanding of religion dissolving before our eyes...
.
...IT IS IMPORTANT TO APPRECIATE THE DELICATENESS OF THIS MATTER OF BIBLICAL INTREPRETATION...
..mzsexybaby

today I like you very much.

...ok last post...maybe?
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...this approach is called "historical" because it requires that you put the text back into its original historical and cultural context be4 u decide what it means...this approach is called "critical" because it requires careful thought and detailed analysis of the bible...the word "critical" is not used here in the more familiar sense of "trying to find fault with something"..
..mzsexybaby

mzkqueen03 said:

...ok last post...maybe?
.
...this approach is called "historical" because it requires that you put the text back into its original historical and cultural context be4 u decide what it means...this approach is called "critical" because it requires careful thought and detailed analysis of the bible...the word "critical" is not used here in the more familiar sense of "trying to find fault with something"..
..mzsexybaby

" LOVE YOU 4EVA GRANDMA LOLA, WATCH OVER US TILL WE MEET AGAIN. PRINCE: WH3N U L3T TH3 RAIN FALL DOWN, TH3Y ALL GONNA G3T W3T!

mzkqueen03 said:

DesireeNevermind said:

today I like you very much.

...COME HERE
..mzsexybaby

matthewgrant said:

mzkqueen03 said:

...COME HERE
..mzsexybaby

same mzkqueen

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