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Fourteen Precepts Of Engaged Buddhism by Thich Nhat Hanh
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Excellent! Thanks for sharing this esa. "After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill...the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill...you stay in wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes." | |
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Thanks, Esa. | |
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wonderful. What the fuck is a horse anyways? It looks like a really deformed beaver. You should probably pay more attention to these types of things.
----Proverbs 8:19 from the book of Imago | |
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very cool. thanks for posting these | |
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Thank you esa. These are definitely precepts to live by. *An act of love that fails is just as much a part of the divine life as an act of love that succeeds, for love is measured by fullness, not by reception.* - *Love is never lost. If not reciprocated, it will flow back and soften and purify the heart.* | |
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thanks small circles, big wheels!
I've got a pretty firm grip on the obvious! | |
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esa said: 5. Do not accumulate wealth while millions are hungry. Do not take as the aim of your life fame, profit, wealth, or sensual pleasure. Live simply and share time, energy, and material resources with those who are in need.
9. Do not say untruthful things for the sake of personal interest of to impress people. 14. Sexual expression should not happen without love and commitment. In sexual relationships, be aware of future suffering that may be caused. | |
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Thank you, VERY much!!! Let's have a little fun....
If you win, I'll give you 50$ If I win, you have to get a lobotomy. A win win situation your you. | |
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I love this, thank you. "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"-Dr Seuss
Pain is something to carry, like a radio...You should stand up for your right to feel your pain- Jim Morrison | |
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thank you so much for this thread. | |
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My pleasure, everyone... I'm happy to see such a positive response.
sapphiregirl said: I wish there was more of stuff like this floating around....
What did you have in mind...? "I don't like that man; I must get to know him better." | |
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Very nice to read these again
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esa said: My pleasure, everyone... I'm happy to see such a positive response.
sapphiregirl said: I wish there was more of stuff like this floating around....
What did you have in mind...? I was refering to how it is something EVERYONE can follow. It actually directs towards peace. It's refreshing to see something with the intent of peace rather than condemnation for not serving god a certain way or following whichever rules. Let's have a little fun....
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Engaged Buddhism, also known as Socially Engaged Buddhism, is not a sect but a Buddhist movement. Founded by Vietnamese Zen monk Thich Nhat Hanh in the 20th century, Engaged Buddhism seeks to apply Buddhist teachings in a more activist and social manner than has been traditional.
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you know, if it weren't for the fact that women are not permitted to serve in the temples, and the fact that the monks rely on others for their sustenance. why i'd | |
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PsychedelicGoof said: ***bump***
And what a beautiful *bump* it is. *An act of love that fails is just as much a part of the divine life as an act of love that succeeds, for love is measured by fullness, not by reception.* - *Love is never lost. If not reciprocated, it will flow back and soften and purify the heart.* | |
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XxAxX said: you know, if it weren't for the fact that women are not permitted to serve in the temples, and the fact that the monks rely on others for their sustenance. why i'd
buddhism entirelyThe women rule is a monastic rule and can be democratically changed. I wish that it would be. There are Mahanist practices that recognize women in the monastic order, but more needs to be done. Monks by necessity need to rely on others. At the time of the Buddha's , those in religious institutions enjoyed a level of prestige in society not unlike monks and other men of the cloth in Europe during the dark and middle ages. The Buddha wanted to ensure that the monks realized that they weren't above others in their community. He disdained the religious practices of the Brahmans at the time, and he didn't condone their caste system. As a result, he required his monks to beg for food and the robes on their backs from their community to keep them humble. It was a way for him to show the monks that the life they lived was not a leisurely withdrawal from the world, but one in which they shared a symbiotic relationship requiring compassion for all parties. But I agree, there needs to be more by way of women's roles in Buddhism--especially Theravardin buddhism. The beauty in this religion is that there is no stopping or discourageing a women's movement in Buddhism. It's sad that societies haven't caught up to that. There's no reason a female Dali Lama could not exist. | |
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XxAxX said: you know, if it weren't for the fact that women are not permitted to serve in the temples, and the fact that the monks rely on others for their sustenance. why i'd
buddhism entirelyagreed. for the most part, I can dig it. |
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Imago said: XxAxX said: you know, if it weren't for the fact that women are not permitted to serve in the temples, and the fact that the monks rely on others for their sustenance. why i'd
buddhism entirelyThe women rule is a monastic rule and can be democratically changed. I wish that it would be. There are Mahanist practices that recognize women in the monastic order, but more needs to be done. Monks by necessity need to rely on others. At the time of the Buddha's , those in religious institutions enjoyed a level of prestige in society not unlike monks and other men of the cloth in Europe during the dark and middle ages. The Buddha wanted to ensure that the monks realized that they weren't above others in their community. He disdained the religious practices of the Brahmans at the time, and he didn't condone their caste system. As a result, he required his monks to beg for food and the robes on their backs from their community to keep them humble. It was a way for him to show the monks that the life they lived was not a leisurely withdrawal from the world, but one in which they shared a symbiotic relationship requiring compassion for all parties. But I agree, there needs to be more by way of women's roles in Buddhism--especially Theravardin buddhism. The beauty in this religion is that there is no stopping or discourageing a women's movement in Buddhism. It's sad that societies haven't caught up to that. There's no reason a female Dali Lama could not exist. well, aside from the obvious gender issues, i find i just could never agree that the path to enlightenment involves sitting under a tree for months on end meditating. what's up with that? i understand the need for humility but this world/realm/planet is an active/dynamic organism (for lack of a better word). how can one attain spiritual enlightenment by sitting under a tree passively? can one not connect with that which is through action????? i just have trouble embracing a philosophy that discourages its followers from striving after tangible physical goals. i think the observable universe strives constantly and changes in the process. bah. my spirit is not peaceful enough for buddhism | |
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CarrieMpls said: XxAxX said: you know, if it weren't for the fact that women are not permitted to serve in the temples, and the fact that the monks rely on others for their sustenance. why i'd
buddhism entirelyagreed. for the most part, I can dig it. we should start our own philosophy. ORGism. ben could have tax free status and, as temple members, we would be blessed. | |
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XxAxX said: CarrieMpls said: agreed. for the most part, I can dig it. we should start our own philosophy. ORGism. ben could have tax free status and, as temple members, we would be blessed. ![]() |
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XxAxX said: CarrieMpls said: agreed. for the most part, I can dig it. we should start our own philosophy. ORGism. ben could have tax free status and, as temple members, we would be blessed. |
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XxAxX said: well, aside from the obvious gender issues, i find i just could never agree that the path to enlightenment involves sitting under a tree for months on end meditating. what's up with that? i understand the need for humility but this world/realm/planet is an active/dynamic organism (for lack of a better word).
Keep in mind that when the Buddha sat under the Bodhi Tree, he had already tried several different techniques for understanding "suffering". He was determined to find the meaning for suffering and the way to end suffering. He had lived a very protected life in a palace, in which he was never allowed to see suffering of any kind. One day, he left the palace and he saw all kinds of suffering in the world, including that of old age and death. Imagine how that had to impact him. Imagine having never witnessed anything but happiness and good, no suffering whatsoever in any shape, form, or fashion, and to suddenly discover that it was not the same for everyone. That bodies grow old and die. That people are beaten, murdered, that people suffer mentally and emotionally. It's mind blowing to think what that had to have been like. Most of us grow up seeing suffering all around us, so much so that even our entertainment involves the brutatilty of our "reality". We become complacent about suffering, and may such things as "Well, that's just life." But the Buddha knew that it didn't have to be that way. He had lived quite a few years of his life having never experienced the suffering that most people see on a daily basis. Why had he never experienced suffering? What made it so different, his world inside the palace with no suffering, compared to the world outside of the palace? So he was determined to ease the hearts and minds of people, to find what caused suffering and how to end suffering. Such compassion that involves! Everything he tried, up until the point of sitting under the Bodhi Tree had not revealed this to him. He finally decided to "sit" and ponder this until he came up with the answer. This is why he sat for so long. What was revealed to him are taught now as The Four Noble Truths and the path to understanding was The Eightfold Path. The Four Noble Truths 1. Life means suffering. 2. The origin of suffering is attachment. 3. The cessation of suffering is attainable. 4. The path to the cessation of suffering. The Eightfold Path
Wisdom 1. Right View 2. Right Intention Ethicial Conduct 3. Right Speech 4. Right Action 5. Right Livelihood Mental Development 6. Right Effort 7. Right Mindfulness 8. Right Concentration XaXaX said: how can one attain spiritual enlightenment by sitting under a tree passively? can one not connect with that which is through action?????
One does not have to "sit under a tree passively". There are walking meditations one can engage in. However, sitting with yourself for at least 20 minutes twice a day is a good start. It's always interesting to me, that as a society we engage in all of these "activities" to "find ourself", yet we never just take the time to sit with ourself, without the distractions of the "outside world". XaXaX said: i just have trouble embracing a philosophy that discourages its followers from striving after tangible physical goals. i think the observable universe strives constantly and changes in the process.
bah. my spirit is not peaceful enough for buddhism There is no "disparaging" of followers from striving after physical goals. If you wish to go after a physical goal, then that is your choice to do so. What Buddhism teaches is non-attachment. Suffering arises from desire. What happens when you strive after something, and put all of your time and energy into getting it, and then you don't receive it? You become upset, maybe depressed, maybe start with the mental criticism and questioning. You become "unbalanced" because you desired a particular goal, and that goal was not realized. Within Buddhism, non-attachment basically is a flowing. Change occurs, and if we become attached to something, if it changes and we are attached to what was, we do not flow easily with what has become. There are Buddhists who have gained great fame and wealth, however, they are not attached to this fame and wealth because they know it is not permanent. One day it is here, the next day it is gone. Now a business man, who has earned large sums of money, and has acquired many possessions, but practices attachment to that money, his success, his acquisitions, will become despondent, depressed, and possibly suicidal if suddenly it were all taken from him. A Buddhist, would simply flow with the loss of his acquisitions, wealth, fame, knowing it was not permanent to begin with. *An act of love that fails is just as much a part of the divine life as an act of love that succeeds, for love is measured by fullness, not by reception.* - *Love is never lost. If not reciprocated, it will flow back and soften and purify the heart.* | |
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benni said: Buddhism teaches non-attachment.
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benni said: XxAxX said: well, aside from the obvious gender issues, i find i just could never agree that the path to enlightenment involves sitting under a tree for months on end meditating. what's up with that? i understand the need for humility but this world/realm/planet is an active/dynamic organism (for lack of a better word).
Keep in mind that when the Buddha sat under the Bodhi Tree, he had already tried several different techniques for understanding "suffering". He was determined to find the meaning for suffering and the way to end suffering. He had lived a very protected life in a palace, in which he was never allowed to see suffering of any kind. One day, he left the palace and he saw all kinds of suffering in the world, including that of old age and death. Imagine how that had to impact him. Imagine having never witnessed anything but happiness and good, no suffering whatsoever in any shape, form, or fashion, and to suddenly discover that it was not the same for everyone. That bodies grow old and die. That people are beaten, murdered, that people suffer mentally and emotionally. It's mind blowing to think what that had to have been like. Most of us grow up seeing suffering all around us, so much so that even our entertainment involves the brutatilty of our "reality". We become complacent about suffering, and may such things as "Well, that's just life." But the Buddha knew that it didn't have to be that way. He had lived quite a few years of his life having never experienced the suffering that most people see on a daily basis. Why had he never experienced suffering? What made it so different, his world inside the palace with no suffering, compared to the world outside of the palace? So he was determined to ease the hearts and minds of people, to find what caused suffering and how to end suffering. Such compassion that involves! Everything he tried, up until the point of sitting under the Bodhi Tree had not revealed this to him. He finally decided to "sit" and ponder this until he came up with the answer. This is why he sat for so long. What was revealed to him are taught now as The Four Noble Truths and the path to understanding was The Eightfold Path. One does not have to "sit under a tree passively". There are walking meditations one can engage in. However, sitting with yourself for at least 20 minutes twice a day is a good start. It's always interesting to me, that as a society we engage in all of these "activities" to "find ourself", yet we never just take the time to sit with ourself, without the distractions of the "outside world". XaXaX said: i just have trouble embracing a philosophy that discourages its followers from striving after tangible physical goals. i think the observable universe strives constantly and changes in the process.
bah. my spirit is not peaceful enough for buddhism There is no "disparaging" of followers from striving after physical goals. If you wish to go after a physical goal, then that is your choice to do so. What Buddhism teaches is non-attachment. Suffering arises from desire. What happens when you strive after something, and put all of your time and energy into getting it, and then you don't receive it? You become upset, maybe depressed, maybe start with the mental criticism and questioning. You become "unbalanced" because you desired a particular goal, and that goal was not realized. Within Buddhism, non-attachment basically is a flowing. Change occurs, and if we become attached to something, if it changes and we are attached to what was, we do not flow easily with what has become. There are Buddhists who have gained great fame and wealth, however, they are not attached to this fame and wealth because they know it is not permanent. One day it is here, the next day it is gone. Now a business man, who has earned large sums of money, and has acquired many possessions, but practices attachment to that money, his success, his acquisitions, will become despondent, depressed, and possibly suicidal if suddenly it were all taken from him. A Buddhist, would simply flow with the loss of his acquisitions, wealth, fame, knowing it was not permanent to begin with. i have read the buddha's story, studied his doctrine and i still disagree. i think i am more in tune with the navajo sphilosophy. ![]() | |
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XxAxX said: i have read the buddha's story, studied his doctrine and i still disagree. i think i am more in tune with the navajo sphilosophy. ![]() Very cool! (Navajo philosophy) I've always enjoyed reading and studying Native American spiritualism. Such harmony with nature. And Buddhism isn't for everyone, and that's okay! lol At least you've looked at it and examined it to see if it was or wasn't for you. Most people will dismiss Buddhism out of hand without ever having even read anything about it because they feel it is so different from what they were raised with. The reason I posted about the Buddha's experience, is because you seemed to be asking questions and I wanted to attempt to answer them. *An act of love that fails is just as much a part of the divine life as an act of love that succeeds, for love is measured by fullness, not by reception.* - *Love is never lost. If not reciprocated, it will flow back and soften and purify the heart.* | |
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