Palin Church Promotes Converting Gays

Ohh, this ish just gets better and better...

Palin's position is not an 'extremist' view in the sense that MOST Christians I know deep down inside think it's a choice and guidance and prayer can convert them. This is due to the entire nature vs. nurture argument and one of the primary reasons why they think the institution of marriage is in trouble if gays are allowed to legally marry. The influence on today's youth, in their minds, would be all too shocking.

All you straight Christian men opposed to homosexuality should go out and suck a mean dick--trust me, you'd understand why you're wrong on this issue.

I love Milty and so should you!

FUNNIEST SHIT EVER!: http://prince.org/msg/100/290558

Imago said:

Imago said:

Excuse me
Is this palin.org?

PANDURITO said:

joe who?

PANDURITO said:

joe who?

HiinEnkelte said:

I love Milty and so should you!

FUNNIEST SHIT EVER!: http://prince.org/msg/100/290558

HiinEnkelte said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

HiinEnkelte said:

Aww! Not exciting enough for you? How about this?

http://www.thenation.com/...ers/355545

Palin's Pastor: God Will Damn America

Palin's pastor, Larry Kroon, warns God "is gonna strike out his hand against" America

On July 20, 2008, the pastor of Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin's home church, Larry Kroon, delivered a sermon called "Sin Is Personal To God." Kroon, the senior pastor of the non-denominational Wasilla Bible Church in Wasilla, Alaska, used the book of Zephaniah as his reference point for discussing "that great day of the Lord, when God will finally bring closure to human history... a day of wrath." According to Kroon, "all things and all people" are going to bear the brunt of God's "intense anger." "There's anger with God," he proclaimed. "He takes sin personal."

Kroon placed Zephaniah in a modern context, warning that the sinful habits of Americans would invite the wrath of God. "And if Zephaniah were here today," Kroon bellowed, "he'd be saying, ‘Listen, [God] is gonna deal with all the inhabitants of the earth. He is gonna strike out His hand against, yes, Wasilla; and Alaska; and the United States of America. There's no exceptions here -- there's none. It's all.'"

(Kroon's sermon can be heard here; a full transcript is here.)

While Kroon has cautioned his parishioners against the mass marketed End Times prophecies of Hal Lindsey and Tim LaHaye, he has nonetheless invoked doomsday scenarios that mirror those on the pages of Lindsey and LaHaye's bestselling tracts.

"It's so very possible that God, instead of responding by granting spiritual renewal and sustained prosperity," Kroon said in a sermon on July 13, 2008, "could just as easily...it's conceivable that He could just as easily, for example, raise up a revived, prosperous and powerful Communist Russia with a web of alliances across the Middle East. And our gas pumps would go dry. The dollar would collapse. And the markets would crash. The kayak could go upside down. And it could happen in a matter of weeks. That could happen. It could happen by this fall."

Palin joined Wasilla Bible Church after leaving Wasilla Assembly of God, a Pentecostal church where she delivered a controversial sermon asking her audience to pray that the war in Iraq is "God's plan." When she is working in Alaska's capitol, she worships at the Juneau Christian Center, another Pentecostal church where charismatic displays like speaking in tongues and dancing in the spirit are encouraged. Palin describes herself as a "Bible-believing Christian."

Palin's presence at Wasilla Bible Church has not been confirmed for the days Kroon warned of God "striking out his hand against... the United States of America" and "rais[ing] up" an alliance of nations to ruin America.

Imago said:

HiinEnkelte said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Aww! Not exciting enough for you? How about this?

http://www.thenation.com/...ers/355545

Palin's Pastor: God Will Damn America

Palin's pastor, Larry Kroon, warns God "is gonna strike out his hand against" America

On July 20, 2008, the pastor of Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin's home church, Larry Kroon, delivered a sermon called "Sin Is Personal To God." Kroon, the senior pastor of the non-denominational Wasilla Bible Church in Wasilla, Alaska, used the book of Zephaniah as his reference point for discussing "that great day of the Lord, when God will finally bring closure to human history... a day of wrath." According to Kroon, "all things and all people" are going to bear the brunt of God's "intense anger." "There's anger with God," he proclaimed. "He takes sin personal."

Kroon placed Zephaniah in a modern context, warning that the sinful habits of Americans would invite the wrath of God. "And if Zephaniah were here today," Kroon bellowed, "he'd be saying, ‘Listen, [God] is gonna deal with all the inhabitants of the earth. He is gonna strike out His hand against, yes, Wasilla; and Alaska; and the United States of America. There's no exceptions here -- there's none. It's all.'"

(Kroon's sermon can be heard here; a full transcript is here.)

While Kroon has cautioned his parishioners against the mass marketed End Times prophecies of Hal Lindsey and Tim LaHaye, he has nonetheless invoked doomsday scenarios that mirror those on the pages of Lindsey and LaHaye's bestselling tracts.

"It's so very possible that God, instead of responding by granting spiritual renewal and sustained prosperity," Kroon said in a sermon on July 13, 2008, "could just as easily...it's conceivable that He could just as easily, for example, raise up a revived, prosperous and powerful Communist Russia with a web of alliances across the Middle East. And our gas pumps would go dry. The dollar would collapse. And the markets would crash. The kayak could go upside down. And it could happen in a matter of weeks. That could happen. It could happen by this fall."

Palin joined Wasilla Bible Church after leaving Wasilla Assembly of God, a Pentecostal church where she delivered a controversial sermon asking her audience to pray that the war in Iraq is "God's plan." When she is working in Alaska's capitol, she worships at the Juneau Christian Center, another Pentecostal church where charismatic displays like speaking in tongues and dancing in the spirit are encouraged. Palin describes herself as a "Bible-believing Christian."

Palin's presence at Wasilla Bible Church has not been confirmed for the days Kroon warned of God "striking out his hand against... the United States of America" and "rais[ing] up" an alliance of nations to ruin America.

have you read my posts on jeremiah wright?
and of what i am critical of regarding him (and obama)?

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

HiinEnkelte said:

have you read my posts on jeremiah wright?
and of what i am critical of regarding him (and obama)?

Aside from Rev. Wright's rather animated method of delivery...what is different, from what he said and what Sarah Palin's pastor said?

HiinEnkelte said:

ehuffnsd said:

What a laugh! I say GOOD LUCK "converting" those who are born this
way. How in the world do they think their going to "convert" what is inborn/innate? Oh well, I'm not for McCain anyway so....it's
really neither here nor there to me anyway.
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HiinEnkelte said:

paisley43 said:

Well....it "worked" for Donnie McKlurken (I totally killed the spelling).

Let me tell you. As one who sold advertising for a Gospel station and an R&B station, the churches that advertised with the Gospel station had some "individuals". I had one pastor client that was married (first lady). I never met his wife, but whenever we met he'd have a different and very feminine acting man with him.

Nothing's wrong, be who you are, but damn hiding it is doing no good. I saw right through. Pastor was "straight" during the day, but I swear he had lovers. But I would imagine prayer was the way to turn them straight, I suppose.

Those days were a hoot. Heterosexual my bum, there are so many homosexual men in the church. If they are not straight out there gay, a lot are double dippin'.

Prayer is not going to change it, I'm sorry schnookums.

Big surprise.

This isn't going to effect much of anyone's position on Palin -- not even gay Republicans.

Imago said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

HiinEnkelte said:

have you read my posts on jeremiah wright?
and of what i am critical of regarding him (and obama)?

Aside from Rev. Wright's rather animated method of delivery...what is different, from what he said and what Sarah Palin's pastor said?

http://prince.org/msg/15/286132


BARACK OBAMA, FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!! Get used to it HATERS!!

2elijah said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Aside from Rev. Wright's rather animated method of delivery...what is different, from what he said and what Sarah Palin's pastor said?

Let's see if the media will spin the hell out of this like they obsessively did with Obama. I doubt it though, they'll just give her a "pass." Same isht, different day.

Isn't it funny though, how the media plays favorite or gives a pass to? Why am I not surprised?

Hatrina, be prepared to see a repeat on election day of the 2000 election.

The real and dirty games the American media plays is being displayed right before the world's eyes.
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As long as she keeps her religious beliefs out of government.

This is the problem.. she and anyone else can have any religious beliefs they want, but I do not want those beliefs affecting government policy.

I don't care if Christians think human kind is fallen, so we all have our battles to fight. So what?

Government's job is to help society in spite of religious beliefs. It is to promote the social good, not make us all Christians, anyway.

So religious arguments are moot in government anyway, or should be.

What does she propose to do: make gay conversion camps?

I am so sick of this.. really.

Why don't evangelical churchs and others lose their tax exempt status if they are going to engage in politics? Why doesn't somebody investigate this?

Ah but nobody is going to bring it up because let's not piss-off the evangelicals or any other politicallly engaged religious group.

Oh.. but people can be all over Rev. Wright for stating the "dirty truth, " but not this nutcase!

well, let's ask her about those things.

oh wait - we can't.

I would comment on this, but I try to stay out of the gay arguments. I have been put on 2 weeks vacation because of these. So have at it.

HiinEnkelte said:

SUPRMAN said:

HiinEnkelte said:

I bet if you found out her minister was black, then it would be a story huh?

But white ministers preaching hate doesn't have the same political cachet.