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Thread started 08/14/08 4:26am

yxl1

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Godless Comedy

Anyone else on this forum a fan of Pat Condell? If you havent heard of him, check out his video bloggs at www.youtube.com/user/patcondell

Heres an interview with Pat from TimeOut magazine...

http://www.timeout.com/lo.../2217.html

Pat Condell doesn’t much care for any form of religion. ‘I’m not saying it doesn’t have its uses,’ he declares. ‘Personally, I turn to it whenever I want my intelligence insulted.’ He particularly dislikes what he calls ‘God’s little helpers’, the ones who ‘take it upon themselves to police the rest of us on His behalf’. He’s even sceptical about so-called religious moderates. ‘They’ve helped to nurture extremism by tolerating it in their midst and by constantly demanding respect for faith-based opinion.’

The media, Condell says, give airtime to ‘lunatics like Christian Voice’ whenever there’s a storm in a teacup like the arguments over ‘Jerry Springer: the Opera’. ‘Or, when Muslims erupt in fury over nothing, as with the recent veil nonsense, the BBC invites some hate-mongering fuckwit who represents nobody to speak for all the Muslims in Britain.’

He’s expressing these and other controversial views in his stand-up show ‘Faith Hope and Sanity’, subtitled ‘A Few Jokes About Religion Before It Kills Us All’. He’s mounting a simultaneous assault on three separate fronts. ‘It seems to me that fundamentalist Christians, jihadist Muslims and settlement-building Jews are causing more than their share of trouble in the world. World events are being driven by people with apocalyptic delusions, while here in Britain a paralysing liberal guilt allows religious bigots to use intimidation and violence to stamp out free speech. If you can’t get laughs out of all that, you can’t get them out of anything.’

Condell’s 56. He was born an Irish Catholic but educated in Church of England schools. ‘I found myself segregated in assembly and shunted into another room while everyone said their morning prayers. I didn’t mind. The whole pantomime seemed hollow to me even then. Once you become aware of the gulf between what people profess to believe and how they actually behave, it’s hard to take any of it seriously.’

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Reply #1 posted 08/14/08 5:46am

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yxl1 said:

Pat Condell doesn’t much care for any form of religion. ‘I’m not saying it doesn’t have its uses,’ he declares. ‘Personally, I turn to it whenever I want my intelligence insulted.’


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Reply #2 posted 08/14/08 6:36am

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Reply #3 posted 08/14/08 10:10am

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I think he's great and often on point. biggrin

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Reply #4 posted 08/14/08 1:37pm

Stymie

Once you become aware of the gulf between what people profess to believe and how they actually behave, it’s hard to take any of it seriously.


this is an awesome quote.

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Reply #5 posted 08/15/08 5:01am

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Stymie said:

Once you become aware of the gulf between what people profess to believe and how they actually behave, it’s hard to take any of it seriously.


this is an awesome quote.


Isn't it.

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Reply #6 posted 08/15/08 7:15am

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Cloudbuster said:

Stymie said:



this is an awesome quote.


Isn't it.
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Reply #7 posted 08/15/08 7:22am

RodeoSchro

I remember in 2002 0r 2003, he came out with a rant about the War on Terror. It was very pro-Bush.

Neocons trumpeted it as the greatest monologue in the history of mankind. They were not one bit embarrassed to find out it was the work of a comedian.

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Reply #8 posted 08/15/08 7:32am

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RodeoSchro said:

I remember in 2002 0r 2003, he came out with a rant about the War on Terror. It was very pro-Bush.

Neocons trumpeted it as the greatest monologue in the history of mankind. They were not one bit embarrassed to find out it was the work of a comedian.
Even if he is totally joking Greg, I agree with the quote I posted above. Nothing turns me off of Christianity like Christians do.

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Reply #9 posted 08/15/08 9:56am

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Stymie said:

RodeoSchro said:

I remember in 2002 0r 2003, he came out with a rant about the War on Terror. It was very pro-Bush.

Neocons trumpeted it as the greatest monologue in the history of mankind. They were not one bit embarrassed to find out it was the work of a comedian.
Even if he is totally joking Greg, I agree with the quote I posted above. Nothing turns me off of Christianity like Christians do.


It's not Christianity that's the problem.

It's bad people calling themselves Christians in order to provide cover for dastardly deeds.

What we need IMHO is more education about what Christ really preached, so that when charlatans try to do bad things in the name of Christianity, the public can rise up and stop it. Or at least recognize that someone is lying to them.

This applies to any religion, too. I have never bought the line that Islam preaches all non-believers are to be killed.

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Reply #10 posted 08/15/08 10:10am

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Stymie said:

Once you become aware of the gulf between what people profess to believe and how they actually behave, it’s hard to take any of it seriously.


this is an awesome quote.


And when you expand that statement to more then just Religion

worship

Amen

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Reply #11 posted 08/15/08 10:16am

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Don't want to scare anyone, but posting on this thread will probably result in you going to Hell.

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Reply #12 posted 08/15/08 10:21am

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mcmeekle said:

Don't want to scare anyone, but posting on this thread will probably result in you going to Hell.

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I don't believe in Hell

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Reply #13 posted 08/15/08 10:27am

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Mach said:

mcmeekle said:

Don't want to scare anyone, but posting on this thread will probably result in you going to Hell.

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I don't believe in Hell

Oh, well, carry on then.... shrug

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Reply #14 posted 08/15/08 10:53am

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mcmeekle said:

Mach said:



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I don't believe in Hell

Oh, well, carry on then.... shrug

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Reply #15 posted 08/15/08 11:38am

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mcmeekle said:

Don't want to scare anyone, but posting on this thread will probably result in you going to Hell.

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No, it won't.

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Reply #16 posted 08/15/08 1:58pm

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Jesus is just alright with me. Whoa yeah.

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Reply #17 posted 08/15/08 3:02pm

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RodeoSchro said:

Stymie said:

Even if he is totally joking Greg, I agree with the quote I posted above. Nothing turns me off of Christianity like Christians do.


It's not Christianity that's the problem.

It's bad people calling themselves Christians in order to provide cover for dastardly deeds.

What we need IMHO is more education about what Christ really preached, so that when charlatans try to do bad things in the name of Christianity, the public can rise up and stop it. Or at least recognize that someone is lying to them.

This applies to any religion, too. I have never bought the line that Islam preaches all non-believers are to be killed.


Hello RodeoSchro! Question. (And I'm not asking to be argumentative. I've asked this before from many people and the only answer I get is "faith.") How do we know what Christ really preached? Where do we get this information? The New Testament does not paint Jesus in a positive light. My reading of it makes him out to be a bit bipolar. I think the reason charlatans are able to do bad things is because the bible itself is fuzzy IMO.

As for buying the line that Islam preaches that all non-believers are to be killed, all you need to do is open up a copy of the Koran. It's in there, in many passages, in all it's bloody glory.The Koran is not like the bible with all it's various narratives and contradictory perspectives. The Koran is one long narrative (a very long and dull narrative IMO) directly from the angel Gabriel to Mohammed. Of course, it could be argued that since Mohammed was illiterate and he himself recited the angelic prose back to people who could write, much was lost in translation. Which brings us back to the authenticity of holy books.

As for Pat Condell, he's funny, but I hope he doesn't end up like Theo Van Gogh.

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