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Obama won't give us our 40 acres and a mule? I can't believe Obama won't give us our money America owes us for slavery.
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As a Black woman I will say this. Blacks need to make their own way and quit waiting on reperations or any damn thing else from the Goverment or "Whitey"!!!
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We need to invest our money and quit spending on expensive liqour, rims, clothes and other shyt made by companies that we DO NOT OWN!!!!! We need to create and build our OWN WEALTH!!!!!
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rachel3 said: We need to invest our money and quit spending on expensive liqour, rims, clothes and other shyt made by companies that we DO NOT OWN!!!!! We need to create and build our OWN WEALTH!!!!!
I mean how many times must we be kicked int he teet to see this??? Civil Rights Movement dead in the water after MLK and Malcolm died. Hurricane Katrina is that sin't a wake-up call I dont know what is!!! we buy licquor and clothes from p diddy. he black! IM bringing sexy back!
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Donjuandeblacko said: rachel3 said: We need to invest our money and quit spending on expensive liqour, rims, clothes and other shyt made by companies that we DO NOT OWN!!!!! We need to create and build our OWN WEALTH!!!!!
I mean how many times must we be kicked int he teet to see this??? Civil Rights Movement dead in the water after MLK and Malcolm died. Hurricane Katrina is that sin't a wake-up call I dont know what is!!! we buy licquor and clothes from p diddy. he black! oh lord..... I stay Woke.
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First mistake is lumping all Black people in one box. Newsflash, we all don't think the same, spend money the same way, eat the same foods or live on the saae economic levels.
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2elijah said: First mistake is lumping all Black people in one box. Newsflash, we all don't think the same, spend money the same way, eat the same foods or live on the saae economic levels.
For my own personal opinion, I never expected Obama to be the one to push for reparations just because of who he is. Money will not solve the race issues in America, it takes people willing to "change the way they think about race".that will improve race issues, so that the past will not be repeated. I feel "fairness" in employmemt, housing and more funds to better our school systems, especially those that live within inner cities would be a start in improving many of those communities some of us live in that need help the most and basically improving our quality of life. Honestly, I don't know the real answer to reparations, as I am not waiting for anybody to give me a damn thing, since I've always been able to earn my money honestly, and work hard for it. Sure I had to face racist attitudes, but that made me even stronger knowing there was someone out there that didn't want to see me progress. Well, I wasn't going to give up and let them win, so I pushed on. No one gave me any handouts. I just believe in "fairness" when it comes to getting a piece of the American pie. I am a citizen and I deserve just as much right as any other citizen when it comes to fairness in housing, employment and education. What I spend my money on is my choice. I don't let anyone dictate how I should spend it nor will I tell another how they should spend theirs.. How I save or invest my money is my choice. I don't spend my money on liquor, drugs or any of that nonsense so I'm good on a personal level. We could use some financial advisors and educators to come in and educate those living within many lower-income communities, to teach them how to manage and invest their money, so they can look forward to upgrading their living standards. believe that is what's missing most from many lower-income communities, the lack of financial education, how to manage and invest money and how to seek job training and educational funds. Often times people don't share information to try to "lift up" so to speak, others because they are so caught up in "getting mine." We've basically become a "selfish" community in some ways. As a "whole" community, yes African-Americans can do more to improve those communities that are on lower, economic scales. We can voluneer as mentors to the kids in those communities. Write elected officials to let them know what resources are needed to improve that community. Have community meetings with local law enforcement agencies to discuss dealing with crime in the area if it becomes one of the major problems of that community. There are a lot of communities doing this, but you will be lucky if you see this in the media. Often times we are much harder on ourselves, than those outside of our communities and focus more on the "negative" of what some elements within our community do, instead of focusing on the positive things that many are out there doing to improve it. Well, that's just my rant even if some may disagree with some of what I have said. [Edited 8/5/08 10:23am] I agree. Also, Mentor is a better word. "Behind every successful woman there is an astonished man." General Ann Dunwoody | |
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ehuffnsd said: and give all the land promised the first nations.
I doubt that's going to happen. A Native American journalist already raised that question to Senator Obama about reparations for Native Americans regarding America's history with the Native Americans, and Senator Obama stated he was more interested in how we as a nation, can make their (Native Americans) lives better, (i.e, economically/educationally/employment) including African-Americans because of America's history with America as well. Senator Obama practically stated that he would sit down with various tribal leaders and have meetings with them on a regular basis should he become the President. We shall see what happens if he does become President. I can only hope something positive comes out of it. I think people need to remember that Senator Obama, should he become President, will be the President for all of the people not just for a certain portion and he knows that. Which is why people within specific groups, shouldn't expect that just because he is a man of color running for the Presidency, that he will cater to any specific group because of their race or religion. [Edited 8/5/08 12:33pm] http://prince.org/msg/15/286132
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morningsong said: 2elijah said: First mistake is lumping all Black people in one box. Newsflash, we all don't think the same, spend money the same way, eat the same foods or live on the saae economic levels.
For my own personal opinion, I never expected Obama to be the one to push for reparations just because of who he is. Money will not solve the race issues in America, it takes people willing to "change the way they think about race".that will improve race issues, so that the past will not be repeated. I feel "fairness" in employmemt, housing and more funds to better our school systems, especially those that live within inner cities would be a start in improving many of those communities some of us live in that need help the most and basically improving our quality of life. Honestly, I don't know the real answer to reparations, as I am not waiting for anybody to give me a damn thing, since I've always been able to earn my money honestly, and work hard for it. Sure I had to face racist attitudes, but that made me even stronger knowing there was someone out there that didn't want to see me progress. Well, I wasn't going to give up and let them win, so I pushed on. No one gave me any handouts. I just believe in "fairness" when it comes to getting a piece of the American pie. I am a citizen and I deserve just as much right as any other citizen when it comes to fairness in housing, employment and education. What I spend my money on is my choice. I don't let anyone dictate how I should spend it nor will I tell another how they should spend theirs.. How I save or invest my money is my choice. I don't spend my money on liquor, drugs or any of that nonsense so I'm good on a personal level. We could use some financial advisors and educators to come in and educate those living within many lower-income communities, to teach them how to manage and invest their money, so they can look forward to upgrading their living standards. believe that is what's missing most from many lower-income communities, the lack of financial education, how to manage and invest money and how to seek job training and educational funds. Often times people don't share information to try to "lift up" so to speak, others because they are so caught up in "getting mine." We've basically become a "selfish" community in some ways. As a "whole" community, yes African-Americans can do more to improve those communities that are on lower, economic scales. We can voluneer as mentors to the kids in those communities. Write elected officials to let them know what resources are needed to improve that community. Have community meetings with local law enforcement agencies to discuss dealing with crime in the area if it becomes one of the major problems of that community. There are a lot of communities doing this, but you will be lucky if you see this in the media. Often times we are much harder on ourselves, than those outside of our communities and focus more on the "negative" of what some elements within our community do, instead of focusing on the positive things that many are out there doing to improve it. Well, that's just my rant even if some may disagree with some of what I have said. [Edited 8/5/08 10:23am] I agree. Also, Mentor is a better word. Thanks, I actually thought I mentioned "mentor" but thanks for stating that. We just have a lot of work to do. http://prince.org/msg/15/286132
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2elijah said: morningsong said: I agree. Also, Mentor is a better word. Thanks, I actually thought I mentioned "mentor" but thanks for stating that. We just have a lot of work to do. "Behind every successful woman there is an astonished man." General Ann Dunwoody | |
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Z I agree with your post 100%!!!
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Donjuandeblacko said: I can't believe Obama won't give us our money America owes us for slavery.
More blacks will vote for him if he does. it's only right Do you think Obama should"show us the money"? Hell 2 the no.....4 a multitude of reasons. If u want some censored shit.......go elsewhere. If u want the TRUTH, come 2 me. | |
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morningsong said: 2elijah said: Thanks, I actually thought I mentioned "mentor" but thanks for stating that. We just have a lot of work to do. [Edited 8/5/08 12:24pm] http://prince.org/msg/15/286132
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rachel3 said: Z I agree with your post 100%!!!
Me I have mentored but now I am too tired to carry on anymore and nobody else wants to pick up the torch and do anything!!! That is very frustrating!! Great...I understand your frustrations, but that just means it's someone else's turn to carry the torch. At least you can say you have done your part. All we can do is the best we can, but we still can't give up hope. http://prince.org/msg/15/286132
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I'm still waiting on my 40 acres and an Asian Water Buffalo. Bossy 3fine bottom I need your suggestions QUICKLY!!!: http://prince.org/msg/3/290561 | |
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rachel3 said: As a Black woman I will say this. Blacks need to make their own way and quit waiting on reperations or any damn thing else from the Goverment or "Whitey"!!!
What slavery was 400 plus years ago and we didn't get anything then!!! And WHY should Whites today be made to pay for things their forefathers did BEFORE they were even born??? We were not the only race that has been done wrong just look at the Jews and yet they thrive and prosper!!! (This thread smells a lot like a bait thread - stay tuned) Hmm? I don't think Blacks are "waiting around" for reparations, so what makes you say that? And who said whites should pay for it? But even still, SOME of those whites are STILL benefitting from the results of slavery, a lot of major corporations certainly are, so you can't have it just one way. And we've been down the "Holocaust vs Slavery" road before and it will never match up with one another, so truly bad example. New World Order (NWO) - Bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher: Deal with it, muthafuckas! Jealousy/Of what are we/Becomes tendency/For their thievery | |
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While I agree that monetary reparations is a bad idea for a "multitude of reasons". I completely disagree with the notion that "slavery was 400 plus years ago and we didn't get anything then!!! And WHY should Whites today be made to pay for things their forefathers did BEFORE they were even born???"
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Imago said: I'm still waiting on my 40 acres and an Asian Water Buffalo.
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: While I agree that monetary reparations is a bad idea for a "multitude of reasons". I completely disagree with the notion that "slavery was 400 plus years ago and we didn't get anything then!!! And WHY should Whites today be made to pay for things their forefathers did BEFORE they were even born???"
The ramifications of slavery have had a devastating impact on Black people leading up to at the very latest, (if you can't see what's really going on right here in present day) the end of the Civil Rights Movement, in the late 1960's, when Jim Crow Laws were finally abolished. We have been suffering the injustices of this country's sins FOR 400+ years! We have been deliberately, maliciously and meticulously stagnated as a people FOR 400+ years! In spite of that, we've persevered without sitting back waiting for reparations! However, that does not mean, by any means, that America doesn't owe Black people reparations! The only question is, in what form should the reparations be? Agreed. You cannot build a nation on the backs of a people and then act like it's irrelevant and meaningless that they didn't get paid for it. Overturning Jim Crow and instituting true equal rights is a form of reparation but it does need to go deeper than that I stay Woke.
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: While I agree that monetary reparations is a bad idea for a "multitude of reasons". I completely disagree with the notion that "slavery was 400 plus years ago and we didn't get anything then!!! And WHY should Whites today be made to pay for things their forefathers did BEFORE they were even born???"
The ramifications of slavery have had a devastating impact on Black people leading up to at the very latest, (if you can't see what's really going on right here in present day) the end of the Civil Rights Movement, in the late 1960's, when Jim Crow Laws were finally abolished. We have been suffering the injustices of this country's sins FOR 400+ years! We have been deliberately, maliciously and meticulously stagnated as a people FOR 400+ years! In spite of that, we've persevered without sitting back waiting for reparations! However, that does not mean, by any means, that America doesn't owe Black people reparations! The only question is, in what form should the reparations be? I've always believed that there should be reparations, but the condition that Bush has this country in, Obama will be quite busy trying 2 FIX what is a MAJOR cleanup job from the prior 8 years. I have NOT added up the exact numbers, but Bush has had aggregate budget deficeit of close to $5 TRILLION dollars in 8 years. $5 Trillion.....that alone means that Obama who who ever STEALS the election will have their hands full. If u want some censored shit.......go elsewhere. If u want the TRUTH, come 2 me. | |
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No I am not trying to bait but honestly when are "WE" as a people going to wake up and do it for ourselves????
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rachel3 said: No I am not trying to bait but honestly when are "WE" as a people going to wake up and do it for ourselves????
I quit mentoring becasue of responsiblities at work and home, along with the negative attitudes I kept encountering within the Black community. The crabs in the barrel syndrome is so sick and out of control!!! We can do it by ourselves and HAVE been doing it by ourselves for the most part, that's why we're always asking for help! There comes a time when we should get back what we PUT IN, feel me? And that's over 400 years of FREE LABOR'S WORTH of what we DESERVE. And yeah, there are a lot of people "Out for self" but that's because as a people, we haven't had much to understand that it doesn't HAVE to be that way. I know your frustration, I'm dealing with that mentality now, but all I can say is - Put yourself in a position to where once YOU get in control/power that YOU do the right thing and put the right system and people in place to where that shit is lessened. New World Order (NWO) - Bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher: Deal with it, muthafuckas! Jealousy/Of what are we/Becomes tendency/For their thievery | |
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rachel3 said: No I am not trying to bait but honestly when are "WE" as a people going to wake up and do it for ourselves????
I quit mentoring becasue of responsiblities at work and home, along with the negative attitudes I kept encountering within the Black community. The crabs in the barrel syndrome is so sick and out of control!!! You are absolutely right, it is. However, the question has to be asked, why is it that only Black people, seem to be afflicted with it? Is it something that is embedded within our spirit that shouldn't be there but is, as a condition of the circumstances passed on to us as a people, for generations? If you show children every single day that you love them, those children will grow up knowing love and how to give and receive it. However, if you show children every single day that you hate them, those children will grow up knowing hate, hurt and anger. For 400+ years, what has America shown Black people? [Edited 8/5/08 14:43pm] | |
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2elijah said: First mistake is lumping all Black people in one box. Newsflash, we all don't think the same, spend money the same way, eat the same foods or live on the saae economic levels.
For my own personal opinion, I never expected Obama to be the one to push for reparations just because of who he is. Money will not solve the race issues in America, it takes people willing to "change the way they think about race"that will improve race issues, so that the past will not be repeated. I feel "fairness" in employmemt, housing and more funds to better our school systems, especially those that live within inner cities would be a start in improving many of those communities some of us live in that need help the most and basically improving our quality of life. Honestly, I don't know the real answer to reparations, as I am not waiting for anybody to give me a damn thing, since I've always been able to earn my money honestly, and work hard for it. Sure I had to face racist attitudes, but that made me even stronger knowing there was someone out there that didn't want to see me progress. Well, I wasn't going to give up and let them win, so I pushed on. No one gave me any handouts. I just believe in "fairness" when it comes to getting a piece of the American pie. I am a citizen and I deserve just as much right as any other citizen when it comes to fairness in housing, employment and education. What I spend my money on is my choice. I don't let anyone dictate how I should spend it nor will I tell another how they should spend theirs. How I save or invest my money is my choice. I don't spend my money on liquor, drugs or any of that nonsense so I'm good on a personal level. We could use some financial advisors and educators to come in and educate those living within many lower-income communities, to teach them how to manage and invest their money, so they can look forward to upgrading their living standards. I believe that is what's missing most from many lower-income communities--the lack of financial education, how to manage and invest money and how to seek job training and educational funds. Often times people don't share information to try to "lift up" (so to speak), others because they are so caught up in "getting mine." We've basically become a "selfish" community in some ways. As a "whole" community, yes African-Americans can do more to improve those communities that are on lower, economic scales. We can volunteer as mentors to the kids in those communities. Write elected officials to let them know what resources are needed to improve that community. Have community meetings with local law enforcement agencies to discuss dealing with crime in the area if it becomes one of the major problems of that community. Share news with your community and others, i.e., job listings/training programs, educational news, news on healthcare/free screenings, etc. It doesn't take that much energy to put up flyers with this information.. There are a lot of communities doing this, but you will be lucky if you see this in the media. Often times we are much harder on ourselves, than those outside of our communities and focus more on the "negative" of what some elements within our community do, instead of focusing on the positive things that many are out there doing to improve it. Well, that's just my rant even if some may disagree with some of what I have said. [Edited 8/5/08 12:39pm] I agree wholeheartedly with what you said. It's not about the money. It's about changing perspective and ones point of view. I think that now that our nation is where it is after all these years, the best way is to really move on. We're all in this together and we all face the challenges that our nation has. Black, White, Asain, Hispanic we all deal with the Housing situation, the economy, racism, education system etc. I think that if we go "back there" all it's going to do is open up more wounds and create racial tension. And really is every black family receiving another govt check (probably paltry) going to solve anything? Many white people would feel resentment that we are paying for the mistakes of our forefathers (and really the rest of the world that used slaves). Meanwhile nothing really changes except for the deficit which is effecting everyone. WHile slavery is wrong, it's happened through generations across the world and even happens today...just not in the same way. How can there be any reprimands for everyone? This is my voice, My weapon of choice | |
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If they do the reparations thing, I think they ought to funnel all that money into organizations to help clean up the ghettos and to make it so that young black kids can go to college basically free as long as they keep their GPA high enough. If you want to fix things you have to invest in the future while living in the present. | |
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