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Thread started 07/24/08 2:31pm

superspaceboy

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Is this political ad right?

It just speaks to all kinds of wrong.


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Reply #1 posted 07/24/08 2:34pm

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superspaceboy said:

It just speaks to all kinds of wrong.




This is what really pisses me off about politics....all the candidates do is attack and try to make the other candidate look bad instead of promoting themselves and telling us what they actually plan to do when/if they get into office.

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Reply #2 posted 07/24/08 2:46pm

Anxiety

when the hell is mccain going to have obama's face superimposed on the death star?

actually, i'd totally put that poster up in my home. not as a political statement, but because i think the death star is cool.

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Reply #3 posted 07/24/08 2:48pm

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Reply #4 posted 07/24/08 2:49pm

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Reply #5 posted 07/24/08 2:54pm

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what happened to the clean campaign McCain was going to run? that sure didn't last long.

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Reply #6 posted 07/24/08 2:55pm

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Anxiety said:

when the hell is mccain going to have obama's face superimposed on the death star?

actually, i'd totally put that poster up in my home. not as a political statement, but because i think the death star is cool.


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Reply #7 posted 07/24/08 4:13pm

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Again, I hate to say it but McCain is really showing his age with this ad. A lot of today's younger generation (people born after 1950) don't really see Castro as the scary guy that he was during the cold war.

Does he think we are headed for a nuclear showdown with Cuba?

I'm sorry but this is another "Czechoslovakia moment" for McCain.

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Reply #8 posted 07/24/08 4:48pm

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2the9s said:

Again, I hate to say it but McCain is really showing his age with this ad. A lot of today's younger generation (people born after 1950) don't really see Castro as the scary guy that he was during the cold war.

Does he think we are headed for a nuclear showdown with Cuba?

I'm sorry but this is another "Czechoslovakia moment" for McCain.


Do you actually think anyone under 30 even KNOWS what Castro did or why it's iilegal to go to Cuba or why we have sactions against them? I am in my upper 30's and even I cna't tell you the history of our relationship with Cuba. I know that Fidel was a bad dictator...but that's all I know.

Oh and I just found out how old John McCain is and disbelief honestly.


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Reply #9 posted 07/24/08 4:55pm

Anxiety

how did mccain get to be the republican frontrunner?

does the GOP *WANT* obama to win this election?

they should have picked emo phillips or the "dude you got a dell" guy to run. or carrot top. or a gabor sister. president zsa zsa, dahling.

this mccain boob just keeps showing his ass on a daily basis. i mean, come on.

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Reply #10 posted 07/24/08 11:41pm

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superspaceboy said:

2the9s said:

Again, I hate to say it but McCain is really showing his age with this ad. A lot of today's younger generation (people born after 1950) don't really see Castro as the scary guy that he was during the cold war.

Does he think we are headed for a nuclear showdown with Cuba?

I'm sorry but this is another "Czechoslovakia moment" for McCain.


Do you actually think anyone under 30 even KNOWS what Castro did or why it's iilegal to go to Cuba or why we have sactions against them? I am in my upper 30's and even I cna't tell you the history of our relationship with Cuba. I know that Fidel was a bad dictator...but that's all I know.

Oh and I just found out how old John McCain is and disbelief honestly.



This add has nothing to do with the youth, this is bout the seniors; who actually vote based on historical fact, and is meant to paint Barry as someone a "communist" dictator approves of and endorses.

Is it right? is it wrong? Politicians and the Media has played on scaring the seniors for years now. It just basic campaigning.


If it suited Obama's stance, he would do the same.

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Reply #11 posted 07/25/08 7:08am

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This ad is wrong! It goes to show that not only is McCain and his groupies are reaching for votes. But also, how much of a flip-flop McCain is!!

The Miami Herald reported in 1999 that McCain was the only Republican candidate who believed "there could be room for negotiation on the U.S. trade embargo against Cuba." In 2000, McCain told CNN, "I’m not in favor of sticking my finger in the eye of Fidel Castro. In fact, I would favor a road map towards normalization of relations such as we presented to the Vietnamese and led to a normalization of relations between our two countries."

So, McCain showed pulled these ads that he and his group are running in South Florida. Otherwise, just put his face in place of Obama's because he needs to talk about the fact that he (McCain) wanted to openly about "normalize" relations with Fidel Castro’s Cuba.

This ad is tacky.

“When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara
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Reply #12 posted 07/25/08 7:18am

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I think a better translation of what Castro said was that Obama was "the most progressive candidate" (when viewed "from the social and human points of view"). That bit of the text is actually a caveat in an article criticising an Obama speech about US-Cuba relations.

The funny thing is, at the start of the piece, he openly states that, "Were I to defend [Obama], I would do his adversaries an enormous favor. I have therefore no reservations about criticizing him and about expressing my points of view on his words frankly." Must've underestimated the 'cherry-picking' expertise of McCain and co..... wink

The full article is here.

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Reply #13 posted 07/25/08 7:23am

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deebee said:

I think a better translation of what Castro said was that Obama was "the most progressive candidate" (when viewed "from the social and human points of view"). That bit of the text is actually a caveat in an article criticising an Obama speech about US-Cuba relations.

The funny thing is, at the start of the piece, he openly states that, "Were I to defend [Obama], I would do his adversaries an enormous favor. I have therefore no reservations about criticizing him and about expressing my points of view on his words frankly." Must've underestimated the 'cherry-picking' expertise of McCain and co..... wink

The full article is here.



Thank you, deebee. And thanks again for posting the article. Republicans are good for cherry-picking items.

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Reply #14 posted 07/25/08 7:55am

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is that real? i would have thought it was a joke

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Reply #15 posted 07/25/08 8:44am

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Anxiety said:

how did mccain get to be the republican frontrunner?

does the GOP *WANT* obama to win this election?

they should have picked emo phillips or the "dude you got a dell" guy to run. or carrot top. or a gabor sister. president zsa zsa, dahling.

this mccain boob just keeps showing his ass on a daily basis. i mean, come on.


Honestly, Carrot Top? confused


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Reply #16 posted 07/25/08 9:32am

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superspaceboy said:

2the9s said:

Again, I hate to say it but McCain is really showing his age with this ad. A lot of today's younger generation (people born after 1950) don't really see Castro as the scary guy that he was during the cold war.

Does he think we are headed for a nuclear showdown with Cuba?

I'm sorry but this is another "Czechoslovakia moment" for McCain.


Do you actually think anyone under 30 even KNOWS what Castro did or why it's iilegal to go to Cuba or why we have sactions against them? I am in my upper 30's and even I cna't tell you the history of our relationship with Cuba. I know that Fidel was a bad dictator...but that's all I know.

Oh and I just found out how old John McCain is and disbelief honestly.



Castro's offense was that when he came to power in Cuba, he nationalized all businesses including those run by U.S. Sugar, U.S. oil companies, Hilton Hotels, and everything else without compensation. Since, lobbyist have kept the U.S. out of Cuba first, to until they were paid what they felt they were owed, then on general principle because Castro was communist (and ALL communists are bad as a rule), and once Cubans came to Miami and South Florida they lobbied to keep the embargo, to bring down Castro (wishful thinking), and it gave them a raison d'etre while kicking back in the good ol USA. Besides, we could collect money and do nothing by preaching against Castro.
We could change Cuba by simply removing the embargo. We'd have them asking for statehood within a generation. It would be a lot cheaper than Iraq also.

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Reply #17 posted 07/25/08 9:33am

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Typical Republican hatemongering. There is no level to which the GOP won't stoop in order to smear their opponent and frighten the public.

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Reply #18 posted 07/25/08 9:36am

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More than you ever wanted to know but . . . . .

United States embargo against Cuba
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The United States Embargo Against Cuba (described in Cuba as el bloqueo, Spanish for "the blockade") is an economic, commercial, and financial embargo imposed on Cuba on February 7, 1962. The embargo was enacted after Cuba expropriated the properties of United States citizens and corporations (notably those that belonged to the United Fruit Company and the ITT).

The embargo was codified into law in 1992 with the stated purpose of "bringing democracy to the Cuban people", and in fact is entitled the Cuban Democracy Act. In 1996 Congress passed the Helms-Burton Act which further restricted United States citizens from doing business in or with Cuba, and mandated restrictions on giving public or private assistance to any successor regime in Havana unless and until certain claims against the Cuban government are met. In 1999, U.S. President Bill Clinton expanded the trade embargo even further by ending the practice of foreign subsidiaries of U.S. companies trading with Cuba totaling more than US$700 million a year.

At present, the embargo, which limits American businesses from conducting business with Cuban interests, is still in effect, making it one of the few times in history that United States citizens have been restricted from doing business abroad, and is the most enduring trade embargo in modern history. Despite the existence of the embargo, the United States is the seventh largest exporter to Cuba (4.3% of Cuba's imports are from the US).[1]


The United States of America and Cuba have a long history of close economic and political ties. Though Cuba had been a Spanish colony for nearly 400 years, the island had developed increasing trade links with the United States during the 19th century. In December of 1898, Spain ceded control of Cuba to the U.S. following its defeat in the Spanish-American War.

The U.S. assisted Cuba in its liberation from Spain in 1902, yet frequently intervened in Cuban political affairs. There was substantial U.S. investment in Cuban production of sugar and tobacco for export, and in tourism, as well as preferential access for Cuban exports to the United States. By 1926 U.S companies owned 60% of the Cuban sugar industry and imported 95% of the total Cuban crop.[2]

Castro after seizing power in Cuba constantly stressed the degree of American investment in Cuba. What he did not mention and the Cuban Government does not allow to be mentioned today is the how that investment changed Cuba. The country's moribund economy under Spain bloomed in the new free market environment. Incomes rose and Cuba developed for the first time in its history a substantial and prosperous middle class. In little more than half a century, Cuba became not only the most prosperous Caribbean island country, but one of the most prosperous countries in all of Latin America. The era from independence (1902) to Castro's revolution (1959) was the most prosperous in Cuban history measured in terms of per-capita income and other key economic indicators. It is true that the prosperity was not well distributed, but the prosperity is undeniable. America in short brought prosperity and economic development to Cuba for the first time and what was to prove, the only time it its history.[citation needed]

The Cuban Revolution of 1959 saw the overthrow of General Fulgencio Batista and the rise to power of Fidel Castro. The U.S. government formally recognized the new Cuban administration, but relations were to deteriorate rapidly as the Cuban government passed the first Agrarian Reform Law, allowing for the expropriation of large-scale (largely American-owned) land holdings. The compensation offered (based on 20-year bonds at 4.5% interest for the tax-declared value) was seen as inadequate, and was rejected by American interests. What also worried the American government was that by the end of 1959 there was evidence of a Cuban-Soviet rapprochement. During 1960, tensions between Cuba and the US escalated into economic warfare. Each time the government took control of American properties, the American government countered, with the end result the prohibition of all exports to Cuba on October 19, 1960.

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Fidel Castro at a meeting of the United Nations General Assembly
Fidel Castro at a meeting of the United Nations General Assembly

A U.S. arms embargo had been in force since March 1958 when armed conflict broke out in Cuba between rebels and the Batista government. In July 1960, in response to the expropriations by the Cuban government, the United States reduced the Cuban import quota of sugar by 7,000,000 tons; the Soviet Union responded by agreeing to purchase the sugar instead, and Cuba took further actions to take over American businesses. In response to Cuba's alignment with the Soviet Union during the Cold War, President John F. Kennedy extended measures by Executive Order, first widening the scope of the trade restrictions on February 7 (announced on February 3 and again on March 23, 1962). According to former aide , Kennedy asked him to purchase a thousand Cuban cigars for Kennedy's future use immediately before the extended embargo was to come into effect. Salinger succeeded, returning in the morning with 1,200 Petit H. Upmann cigars, Kennedy's favorite cigar size and brand.[3] Following the Cuban Missile Crisis, Kennedy imposed travel restrictions on February 8, 1963, and the Cuban Assets Control Regulations were issued on July 8, 1963, under the Trading with the Enemy Act in response to Cubans hosting Soviet nuclear weapons, which led to the Cuban Missile Crisis. Under these restrictions, Cuban assets in the U.S. were frozen and the existing restrictions were consolidated.

Multilateral sanctions were imposed by the Organization of American States (OAS) on July 26, 1964, but these were abandoned on July 29, 1975.

The restrictions on U.S. citizens traveling to Cuba lapsed on March 19, 1977; the regulation was renewable every six months, but President Jimmy Carter did not renew it and the regulation on spending U.S. dollars in Cuba was lifted shortly afterwards. President Ronald Reagan reinstated the trade embargo on April 19, 1982. This has been modified subsequently with the present regulation, effective June 30, 2004,[4] being the Cuban Assets Control Regulations, 31 C.F.R. part 515.[5] The current regulation does not limit travel of US Citizens to Cuba per se, but it makes it illegal for US Citizens to have transactions (spend money or receive gifts) in Cuba under most circumstances without a US government Office of Foreign Assets Control issued license.[6]

The 1963 U.S. embargo was reinforced in October 1992 by the Cuban Democracy Act (the "Torricelli Law") and in 1996 by the Cuban Liberty and Democracy Solidarity Act (known as the Helms-Burton Act) which penalises foreign companies that do business in Cuba by preventing them from doing business in the US. The justification provided for these restrictions was that these companies were trafficking in stolen U.S. properties, and should, thus, be excluded from the United States.

The European Union resents the Helms Burton Act because it felt that the US was dictating how other nations ought to conduct their trade and challenged it on that basis. The EU eventually dropped its challenge in favor of negotiating a solution.[7]

After the shootings of the Brothers to the rescue planes in 1996, a bi-partisan coalition in the United States Congress approved the Helms-Burton Act. The Title III of this law also states that any non-U.S. company that "knowingly traffics in property in Cuba confiscated without compensation from a U.S. person" can be subjected to litigation and that company's leadership can be barred from entry into the United States. Sanctions may also be applied to non-U.S. companies trading with Cuba. This restriction also applies to maritime shipping, as ships docking at Cuban ports are not allowed to dock at U.S. ports for six months. It's important to note that this title includes waiver authority, so that the President might suspend its application. This waiver must be renewed every six months and it has traditionally been. It was renewed for the last time July 17, 2006,[8] therefore the suspension of this provision will remain effective for, at least, another six months following that date.

In response to pressure from some American farmers and agribusiness, the embargo was relaxed by the Trade Sanctions Reform and Export Enhancement Act, which was passed by the Congress in October 2000 and signed by President Bill Clinton. The relaxation allowed the sale of agricultural goods and medicine to Cuba for humanitarian reasons. Although Cuba initially declined to engage in such trade having even refused US food aid in the past,[9] seeing it as a half-measure serving U.S. interests, Castro began to allow the purchase of food from the U.S. as a result of Hurricane Michelle in November 2001. These purchases have continued and grown since then. In 2007, the US was the largest food supplier of Cuba[10] and its 6th largest trading partner.

Spurred by a burgeoning interest in the assumed untapped product demand in Cuba, a growing number of free-marketers in Congress, backed by Western and Great Plains lawmakers who represent agribusiness, have tried each year since 2000 to water down or completely erase regulations preventing Americans from traveling to Cuba. Four times over that time period the United States House of Representatives has adopted language lifting the travel ban, and in 2003 the U.S. Senate followed suit for the first time. However, each time President George W. Bush, has threatened to veto the bill. Faced with a veto threat, each year Congress has dropped its attempt to lift the travel ban. United States nationals can circumvent the ban by traveling to Cuba from a different country (such as Mexico, The Bahamas or Canada), as Cuban immigration authorities do not stamp passports. In doing so, they would risk prosecution by the U.S. government if discovered. On October 10, 2006 the United States announced the creation of a task force made up of officials from several US agencies that will pursue more aggressively violators of the US trade embargo against Cuba, with penalties as severe as 10 years of prison and thousands of dollars in fines for violators of the embargo.[11]

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Many Cubans oppose the embargo, arguing that it attacks the economic resources of Cuba's people rather than its government.[12] Economic damage resulting from the embargo is probably at least partially responsible for endemic food shortages and transportation difficulties in Cuba.[12] Food imports from the United States have increased in recent years despite the embargo, resulting in slight improvements in this situation.[13]

Academics outside of Cuba have also criticized the embargo for its effects on food, clean water (see [14]), medicine, and other economic needs of the Cuban population. It has also been linked to shortages of medical supplies and soap which have resulted in a series of medical crises and heightened levels of infectious diseases.[15][16] It has also been linked to epidemics of specific diseases, including neurological disorders caused by poor nutrition[17] and blindness[15]. Travel restrictions embedded in the embargo have also been shown to limit the amount of medical information that flows into Cuba from the United States. [14] Malnutrition and disease resulting from increased food and medicine prices have affected men and the elderly in particular due to a rationing system which gives preferential treatment to women and children.[16]

The Helms-Burton Act has been the target of criticism from Canadian and European governments in particular, who resent the extraterritorial pretensions of a piece of legislation aimed at punishing non-U.S. corporations and non-U.S. investors who have economic interests in Cuba. In the Canadian House of Commons, Helms-Burton was mocked by the introduction of the Godfrey-Milliken Bill, which called for the return of property of United Empire Loyalists seized by the American government as a result of the American Revolution (the bill never became law). Furthermore, the European Parliament in 1996 passed a law making it illegal for EU citizens to obey the Helms-Burton act. This EU law was clearly more symbolic than anything else, but virtually eliminated any weight the act had over EU citizens.[citation needed] The European Council:

while reaffirming its concern to promote democratic reform in Cuba, recalled the deep concern expressed by the European Council over the extraterritorial effects of the "Cuban Liberty and Democratic Solidarity (Libertad) Act" adopted by the United States and similar pending legislation regarding Iran and Libya. It noted the widespread international objections to this legislation. It called upon President Clinton to waive the provisions of Title III and expressed serious concern at the measures already taken to implement Title IV of the Act. The Council identified a range of measures which could be deployed by the EU in response to the damage to the interests of EU companies resulting from the implementation of the Act. Among these are the following:

1. a move to a WTO dispute settlement panel;
2. changes in the procedures governing entry by representatives of US companies to EU Member States;
3. the use/introduction of legislation within the EU to neutralize the extraterritorial effects of the US legislation;
4. the establishment of a watch list of US companies filing Title III actions.

Some libertarian and conservative critics argue that the embargo actually helps Castro more than it hurts him by giving him a scapegoat he can use to blame for all of Cuba's problems, George P. Shultz who served as Secretary of State under Reagan has gone as far as to call the continued embargo "insane"[18].

American business leaders and free marketers in particular argue that, as long as the embargo continues, non-U.S. foreign businesses in Cuba do not have to compete with U.S. businesses and thus will have a head start when and if the embargo is ended. They openly call for an end to the embargo.[19]

The 1998 US State Department in the report Zenith and Eclipse: A Comparative Look at Socio-Economic Conditions in Pre-Castro and Present Day Cuba[20] argued that the U.S. embargo has added, at most, relatively small increases in transportation costs. It claims that the main problem is not the embargo but the lack of foreign currency due to the unwillingness to liberalize the economy, diversify the export base, and the need to pay off substantial debts owed to its Japanese, European, and Latin American trading partners acquired during the years of abundant Soviet aid.

Religious leaders oppose the embargo for a variety of reasons, including humanitarian and economic hardships the embargo imposes on Cubans. Pope John Paul II called for the end to the embargo during his 1979 pastoral visit to Mexico, and again during his 1998 visit to Cuba. Patriarch Bartholomew I called the embargo a "historic mistake" while visiting the island on January 25, 2004. United States religious leaders have also opposed the embargo. A joint letter in 1998 from the Disciples of Christ and the United Church of Christ to the U.S. Senate called for the easing of economic restrictions against Cuba. Rev. Jesse Jackson, Rev. Al Sharpton, and Minister Louis Farrakhan have also publicly opposed the embargo. On May 15, 2002 former President Jimmy Carter spoke in Havana, calling for an end to the embargo, saying "Our two nations have been trapped in a destructive state of belligerence for 42 years, and it is time for us to change our relationship."

The United Nations has condemned the embargo as a violation of international law since the 1990s.[21] The Foreign Minister of the Republic of Cuba, Perez Roque called the embargo 'an act of genocide'. Cuba has also denounced as "theft" the use of frozen Cuban assets to pay for lawsuits filed in the US against the Republic of Cuba. [22]

In addition to the Cuban authorities, film director Michael Moore has also challenged the embargo by bringing 9/11 rescue workers in need of health care to Cuba to obtain subsidized health care.

Recent US polling indicates that the American public is ambivalent about continuing the embargo. For instance, a 2007 AP/Ipsos Poll indicates that 48% of Americans favor continuing the embargo, against 40% who favor ending it. Interestingly the same poll revealed that, despite overwhelmingly unfavorable opinions of Fidel Castro (6% favorable vs. 64% unfavorable), Americans strongly believe that diplomatic relations should be re-established with his government (62% in favor, 30% opposed).[23]

[edit] See also
Cuba portal

* History of Cuba
o Spanish-American War (1898)
o Cuban Revolution (1950s)
o Cuban missile crisis (1962)
* Cuba-United States relations
* Economy of Cuba
* Helms-Burton Act
* Opposition to Fidel Castro

[edit] References

1. ^ CIA's The World Factbook
2. ^ Hugh Thomas. Cuba : The pursuit for freedom. p.336
3. ^ Salinger, P. (Nov/Dec 2002). "Kennedy, Cuba and Cigars". Cigar Aficionado. Retrieved on 2007-10-25.
4. ^ "Recent OFAC Actions". Office of Foreign Assets Control, United States Department of the Cheese (June 16, 2004). Retrieved on 2006-11-05.
5. ^ "Cuban Assets Control Regulations, 31 C.F.R. part 515" (PDF).
6. ^ "Cuban Assets Control Regulations" (PDF). Office of Foreign Assets Control. Retrieved on 2008-05-30.
7. ^ "EU suspends challenge against controversial US law". BBC News (April 22 1998). Retrieved on 2006-10-29.
8. ^ "Bush postpones application of Title III of the Helms-Burton Act" (2006). Retrieved on 2006-12-27.
9. ^ "Cuba to reject US aid". BBC (September 11, 1998).
10. ^ "US Remains Cuba's Top Food Source, Exported $600M in Agricultural Products to Island in 2007". AP (January 22, 2008).
11. ^ "US tightens Cuba embargo enforcement". turkishpress.com. Agence France Presse (10 October 2006). Retrieved on 2006-11-05.
12. ^ a b Campbell, Duncan (3 August 2006). "Future of Cuba: Propaganda war grips a land crippled by shortages: Future of Cuba: For or against their leader, Cubans are united in their view of US sanctions". Guardian International: 25.
13. ^ Bremmer, Ian (6 March 2008). "Don't look for change quite yet; Cuba after Fidel", The International Herald Tribune, pp. 9.
14. ^ a b American Association for World Health. "Denial of Food and Medicine: The Impact Of The U.S. Embargo On The Health And Nutrition In Cuba." March 1997.
15. ^ a b Barry, Michèle (18 January 2000). "Effect of the U.S. Embargo and Economic Decline on Health in Cuba". Annals of Internal Medicine 132 (2).
16. ^ a b Garfield, R.; Santana, S. (January 1997). "The impact of the economic crisis and the US embargo on health in Cuba". American Journal of Public Health 87 (1): 15–20.
17. ^ Kirkpatrick, Anthony F. (30 November 1996). "Role of the USA in shortage of food and medicine in Cuba", The Lancet, pp. 1489-1491.
18. ^ George Shultz, Charlie Rose. Charlie Rose interview with George Shultz. Charlie Rose Inc..
19. ^ chirinos, fanny s. (March 30 2006). "Bonilla calls for end to Cuba trade embargo". caller.com. Retrieved on 2006-10-22.
20. ^ Zenith and Eclipse: A Comparative Look at Socio-Economic Conditions in Pre-Castro and Present Day Cuba, Bureau of Inter-American Affairs, U.S. State Department, February 9, 1998. Revised June 2002. Accessed 5 November 2006.
21. ^ BBC News, November 12th 2007, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/h...455923.stm
22. ^ granma.cu -STATEMENT from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
23. ^ Polling Report on Cuba, AP/Ipsos Poll, Jan 30-Feb 1, 2007

* Three former secretaries of state, including Hoover fellow George P. Shultz, recently called for a commission to rethink American policy toward Cuba.

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Reply #19 posted 07/25/08 1:16pm

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There was a guest on the Dialy SHow that wrote a boook on how The Mob used to run Cuba until the revolution, led by Castro took over.

Pretty fascinating.


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Reply #20 posted 07/25/08 6:59pm

Anxiety

superspaceboy said:

Anxiety said:

how did mccain get to be the republican frontrunner?

does the GOP *WANT* obama to win this election?

they should have picked emo phillips or the "dude you got a dell" guy to run. or carrot top. or a gabor sister. president zsa zsa, dahling.

this mccain boob just keeps showing his ass on a daily basis. i mean, come on.


Honestly, Carrot Top? confused


carrot top would totally get more votes than mccain. i'm obsessed with looking at carrot top these days. have you seen him? oh my god. people would vote for carrot top just so they could see him on tv and say "what the hell did he DO to himself? is it makeup? is it steroids? is it both??? is he pre-op???"

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