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Italians sunbathe as Gypsy girls drown (CNN) -- Italian newspapers expressed shock and revulsion on Monday after photographs were published of sunbathers apparently enjoying a day at the beach just meters from where the bodies of two drowned Gypsy girls were laid out on the sand.
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that is awful. very sad. | |
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So what would be an appropriate response?
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Maybe they didn't know those were two deceased people.
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SUPRMAN said: So what would be an appropriate response?
The girls were dead. It doesn't say the beachgoers ignored them and let them drown. As the Goo Goo Dolls intoned, "Don't it make you sad to know that life is more than who you are?" The world doesn't stop because one of us dies. True, in some abstract, 'bigger picture' sense. But there's an awful lot that becomes admissible by that logic: the world also doesn't stop because some girl gets raped, because a some people unjustly go to the gas chamber or electric chair, or die of malnutrition, etc - it 'merely' becomes a pretty morally bankrupt and miserable place to live in while it's still spinning. We all learn to develop some emotional 'distance' from people we're not directly connected to (otherwise just watching the news would be a devastating, traumatic experience!), but surely it's also true that we need some compassion, empathy, moral feeling, etc, for the lives of others (the 'little picture'). Being able to act in the world without regard for the lives of others strikes me as being one of the defining characteristics of the psychopath. Doubtless, if any of us found ourselves in a similar situation - God forbid - we'd 'get over it' after a period of time; but I suppose I like to hang onto the idea that, at least in that moment, my moral imagination would be sufficient that the bodies of two dead children might just put a crimp in my picnic..... | |
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deebee said: SUPRMAN said: So what would be an appropriate response?
The girls were dead. It doesn't say the beachgoers ignored them and let them drown. As the Goo Goo Dolls intoned, "Don't it make you sad to know that life is more than who you are?" The world doesn't stop because one of us dies. True, in some abstract, 'bigger picture' sense. But there's an awful lot that becomes admissible by that logic: the world also doesn't stop because some girl gets raped, because a some people unjustly go to the gas chamber or electric chair, or die of malnutrition, etc - it 'merely' becomes a pretty morally bankrupt and miserable place to live in while it's still spinning. We all learn to develop some emotional 'distance' from people we're not directly connected to (otherwise just watching the news would be a devastating, traumatic experience!), but surely it's also true that we need some compassion, empathy, moral feeling, etc, for the lives of others (the 'little picture'). Being able to act in the world without regard for the lives of others strikes me as being one of the defining characteristics of the psychopath. Doubtless, if any of us found ourselves in a similar situation - God forbid - we'd 'get over it' after a period of time; but I suppose I like to hang onto the idea that, at least in that moment, my moral imagination would be sufficient that the bodies of two dead children might just put a crimp in my picnic..... Notice the article doesn't address that directly. We don't know how other beachgoers felt or how deeply they felt. Once you saw the bodies, does distance matter? It seems to. Yes it would spoil any day at the beach unless you determined that it for you (not you), would not spoil the day at the beach. Going home or elsewhere and having fun just removed the bodies from your view but not your memory. I don't think they are exhibiting a disregard for others. They realize there is nothing they can do for the two dead girls. "She's old enough. She's a U.S. citizen." --John Harris, Alaska's Republican speaker of the house, when asked about Palin's qualifications for vice president | |
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cant say im suprised, each time i visit italy, there is a new game with the gypsies...
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sad. Happiness to you all/ a loving 2008
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Jeez... I have hardly nay faith left in people.
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Sweeny79 said: Jeez... I have hardly nay faith left in people.
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please, it looks from the pictures that everyone was oblivious to what had happened.
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There R a few things which MUST be considered here.
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Giovanni777 said: There R a few things which MUST be considered here.
4 one, the Italian media is big on sensationalism. This media agency may be from Roma, or elsewhere in northern Italia, where there is bigotry toward Napolitani, Siciliani, Calabrese, etc. Secondly, Napoli is a ROUGH place, and it not uncommon to witness (and/or see) death. Also, people there may have been truly unaware that they were dead. All that being said... I'm mostly Napolitano myself. Peace (Paci). ~G Aaaah...the code words | |
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