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superman said: Bible Publishers Sued for Anti-Gay References
Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM By: Rick Pedraza Article Font Size A Michigan man is seeking $70 million from two Christian publishers for emotional distress and mental instability he received during the past 20 years from versions of the Bible that refer to homosexuality as a sin. Bradley LaShawn Fowler, a gay man, claims his constitutional rights were infringed upon by Zondervan Publishing Co. and Thomas Nelson Publishing, both of which, he claims, deliberately caused homosexuals to suffer by misinterpretation of the Bible. Fowler, 39, is seeking $60 million from Zondervan and another $10 million from Thomas Nelson. According to a USA Today report, Fowler’s two separate suits against the publishers claim the intent of the Bible revisions that refer to homosexuals as sinners reflect an individual opinion or a group's conclusion. Fowler says the deliberate changes made to first Corinthians, chapter six, verse nine caused him "or anyone who is a homosexual to endure verbal abuse, discrimination, episodes of hate, and physical violence ... including murder." Fowler, who is representing himself in both lawsuits, claims the publishers are misinterpreting the Bible by specifically using the word homosexuals, which made him an outcast from his family and contributed to physical discomfort and periods of demoralization, chaos and bewilderment. “These are opinions based on the publishers and they are being embedded in the religious structure as a way of life," he tells a local NBC TV station affiliate in Grand Rapids. Fowler admits that every Bible printed is a translation that can be interpreted in many ways, but he says specifically using the word “homosexual” is not a translation but a change. Fowler says Zondervan Bibles published in the ‘80s used the word homosexuals among a list of those who are “wicked' or unrighteous and won't inherit the kingdom of heaven.” Zondervan, for its part, issued a statement to the Grand Rapids press stating it does not translate the Bible or own the copyright for any of the translations it publishes “We rely on the scholarly judgment of the highly respected and credible translation committees behind each translation and never alter the text of the translations we are licensed to publish,” the statement reads. “We only publish credible translations produced by credible Biblical scholars.” U.S. District Judge Julian Abele Cook Jr., who will hear Fowler’s case against Thomas Nelson, says the court “has some very genuine concerns about the nature and efficacy of [Fowler’s] claims." © 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved. good Lord, people will do anything for money. No shit. Some will even start a war for money. Join the antithesis of the org conservative union!
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The only book I think that should be burned and banned.
You Can Not Go Against Nature
Cause When You Do To Go Against Nature Is Part Of Nature Too. | |
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I hope he wins too. Not for the money as much as the moral victory.
Men are from earth. Women are from earth. Deal with it. | |
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I'm going to have to co-sign on this hoping he wins thing.
It's not that The Joker's gay. What he is, is Batsexual. He'd be whacking it to Batsy whether our hero had girl parts or boy parts underneath that rubber. | |
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superman said: A Michigan man is seeking $70 million from two Christian publishers for emotional distress and mental instability
I gotta agree on that | |
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superman said: good Lord, people will do anything for money. Yeah, like selling lies about Jesus. | |
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So words in a book caused him emotional distress and mental instability?
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful WORKS OF DARKNESS, but rather EXPOSE THEM.. Ephesians 5:11" | |
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the more i think on it the more i believe i should gift the world with my own 'translation' of the bible | |
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superman said: Bible Publishers Sued for Anti-Gay References
Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM By: Rick Pedraza Article Font Size A Michigan man is seeking $70 million from two Christian publishers for emotional distress and mental instability he received during the past 20 years from versions of the Bible that refer to homosexuality as a sin. Bradley LaShawn Fowler, a gay man, claims his constitutional rights were infringed upon by Zondervan Publishing Co. and Thomas Nelson Publishing, both of which, he claims, deliberately caused homosexuals to suffer by misinterpretation of the Bible. Fowler, 39, is seeking $60 million from Zondervan and another $10 million from Thomas Nelson. According to a USA Today report, Fowler’s two separate suits against the publishers claim the intent of the Bible revisions that refer to homosexuals as sinners reflect an individual opinion or a group's conclusion. Fowler says the deliberate changes made to first Corinthians, chapter six, verse nine caused him "or anyone who is a homosexual to endure verbal abuse, discrimination, episodes of hate, and physical violence ... including murder." Fowler, who is representing himself in both lawsuits, claims the publishers are misinterpreting the Bible by specifically using the word homosexuals, which made him an outcast from his family and contributed to physical discomfort and periods of demoralization, chaos and bewilderment. “These are opinions based on the publishers and they are being embedded in the religious structure as a way of life," he tells a local NBC TV station affiliate in Grand Rapids. Fowler admits that every Bible printed is a translation that can be interpreted in many ways, but he says specifically using the word “homosexual” is not a translation but a change. Fowler says Zondervan Bibles published in the ‘80s used the word homosexuals among a list of those who are “wicked' or unrighteous and won't inherit the kingdom of heaven.” Zondervan, for its part, issued a statement to the Grand Rapids press stating it does not translate the Bible or own the copyright for any of the translations it publishes “We rely on the scholarly judgment of the highly respected and credible translation committees behind each translation and never alter the text of the translations we are licensed to publish,” the statement reads. “We only publish credible translations produced by credible Biblical scholars.” U.S. District Judge Julian Abele Cook Jr., who will hear Fowler’s case against Thomas Nelson, says the court “has some very genuine concerns about the nature and efficacy of [Fowler’s] claims." © 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved. good Lord, people will do anything for money. Hope he wins I stay Woke.
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thepope2the9s said: So words in a book caused him emotional distress and mental instability?
that makes no sense. when those words are believed in and acted upon by people, it really does. I stay Woke.
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thepope2the9s said: So words in a book caused him emotional distress and mental instability?
that makes no sense. Read the article over again, Sparky. I's not the words, but what people have done as reaction to those words -words that shouldn't be there in the first place -that he's not cool with. It's not that The Joker's gay. What he is, is Batsexual. He'd be whacking it to Batsy whether our hero had girl parts or boy parts underneath that rubber. | |
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Oh come on lol | |
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I can't agree with Fowler on this one. Bibles in general refer to "homosexuality" as a sin (along with many other sins)... not just those under the publishers of Zondervan and Thoman Nelson.
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My Point: He's gonna' have to sue a lot more companies! | |
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meow85 said: thepope2the9s said: So words in a book caused him emotional distress and mental instability?
that makes no sense. Read the article over again, Sparky. I's not the words, but what people have done as reaction to those words -words that shouldn't be there in the first place -that he's not cool with. now that is logic. If someone writes words and others reactive out of their own free will and commit crimes or deplorable acts, the writer of the words or publisher of the book should be blamed and sued. Sorry sparkles, this aint gonna fly. The bible condemns homosexuality as a sin , but doesnt direct or order anyone to go out and kill,discriminate,or mistreat those who practice homosexuality. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful WORKS OF DARKNESS, but rather EXPOSE THEM.. Ephesians 5:11" | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: superman said: Bible Publishers Sued for Anti-Gay References
Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:51 AM By: Rick Pedraza Article Font Size A Michigan man is seeking $70 million from two Christian publishers for emotional distress and mental instability he received during the past 20 years from versions of the Bible that refer to homosexuality as a sin. Bradley LaShawn Fowler, a gay man, claims his constitutional rights were infringed upon by Zondervan Publishing Co. and Thomas Nelson Publishing, both of which, he claims, deliberately caused homosexuals to suffer by misinterpretation of the Bible. Fowler, 39, is seeking $60 million from Zondervan and another $10 million from Thomas Nelson. According to a USA Today report, Fowler’s two separate suits against the publishers claim the intent of the Bible revisions that refer to homosexuals as sinners reflect an individual opinion or a group's conclusion. Fowler says the deliberate changes made to first Corinthians, chapter six, verse nine caused him "or anyone who is a homosexual to endure verbal abuse, discrimination, episodes of hate, and physical violence ... including murder." Fowler, who is representing himself in both lawsuits, claims the publishers are misinterpreting the Bible by specifically using the word homosexuals, which made him an outcast from his family and contributed to physical discomfort and periods of demoralization, chaos and bewilderment. “These are opinions based on the publishers and they are being embedded in the religious structure as a way of life," he tells a local NBC TV station affiliate in Grand Rapids. Fowler admits that every Bible printed is a translation that can be interpreted in many ways, but he says specifically using the word “homosexual” is not a translation but a change. Fowler says Zondervan Bibles published in the ‘80s used the word homosexuals among a list of those who are “wicked' or unrighteous and won't inherit the kingdom of heaven.” Zondervan, for its part, issued a statement to the Grand Rapids press stating it does not translate the Bible or own the copyright for any of the translations it publishes “We rely on the scholarly judgment of the highly respected and credible translation committees behind each translation and never alter the text of the translations we are licensed to publish,” the statement reads. “We only publish credible translations produced by credible Biblical scholars.” U.S. District Judge Julian Abele Cook Jr., who will hear Fowler’s case against Thomas Nelson, says the court “has some very genuine concerns about the nature and efficacy of [Fowler’s] claims." © 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved. good Lord, people will do anything for money. Hope he wins it's funny how you have a pray emoticon in the middle there... | |
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Maybe I should sue them, too. I mean, the whole prohibition against sex outside of marriage puts a pretty negative spin on some of the choices I made and would have made with the women I dated.
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thepope2the9s said: meow85 said: Read the article over again, Sparky. I's not the words, but what people have done as reaction to those words -words that shouldn't be there in the first place -that he's not cool with. now that is logic. If someone writes words and others reactive out of their own free will and commit crimes or deplorable acts, the writer of the words or publisher of the book should be blamed and sued. Sorry sparkles, this aint gonna fly. The bible condemns homosexuality as a sin , but doesnt direct or order anyone to go out and kill,discriminate,or mistreat those who practice homosexuality. -Other people shouldn't be using the Word to discriminate or judge another person. the fact that other individuals did that to him (when we all sin) wasn't right. * STILL, those words are given by GOD...no one else! He should be suiing God, not the publishers;which is ridiculous! John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word is God. | |
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Fritzy said: I can't agree with Fowler on this one. Bibles in general refer to "homosexuality" as a sin (along with many other sins)... not just those under the publishers of Zondervan and Thoman Nelson.
*God is no more against homosexuality, than the sins I or anyone else struggle with personally. (In God's eyes sin is sin; none is greater than another) easy to say when you are exposed to the hatred from people claim they speak for the Universe. | |
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this is a ridiculous law suit, lol.
"IF YOU’RE OUT THERE YOU'RE VULNERABLE. PEOPLE PREFER TO DISAPPEAR IN LIFE, TO REPRESS THEIR PERSONALITY. THAT'S NOT LIVING. IT'S DYING. I SEE THEM ALL OVER THE PLACE, THE WALKING DEAD." | |
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I am very worried of any government intrusion into any aspect of religion or free speech. This is going to be a very hard case to prove.
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sassybritches said: this is a ridiculous law suit, lol.
i think any adulterer, any thief, any person who engages in unwed sex...they should all sue any/all publishers of the bible, the q'uran, and the torah because, after all, these books condemn them as sinners. I think this case the issue over the claim that they added text: "or anyone who is a homosexual to endure verbal abuse, discrimination, episodes of hate, and physical violence ... including murder." That is not found in most bibles. I shave, a sin on par with another. Can I sue? here is a standard translation without calling for attacks against them. http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/...inthians+6 [Edited 7/12/08 13:39pm] | |
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WellInever said: sassybritches said: this is a ridiculous law suit, lol.
i think any adulterer, any thief, any person who engages in unwed sex...they should all sue any/all publishers of the bible, the q'uran, and the torah because, after all, these books condemn them as sinners. I think this case the issue over the claim that they added text: "or anyone who is a homosexual to endure verbal abuse, discrimination, episodes of hate, and physical violence ... including murder." That is not found in most bibles. I shave, a sin on par with another. Can I sue? here is a standard translation without calling for attacks against them. http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/...inthians+6 [Edited 7/12/08 13:39pm] the issue is this: whether a publisher should be held accountable for intentional infliction emotional distress as a result of the publication of religious beliefs. if we start penalizing publishing houses because they publish religious words that some find harmful or hurtful, what we're really doing is chilling freedom of religion. at what point does it stop? at what point is any offensive freedom of expression silenced in hopes of refraining from insulting someone or causing emotional distress. this is nothing short of a shakedown. the guy knows its not going to trial. the attorneys know its not going to trial. this is a lame attempt at publicity and perhaps an out of court settlement. this is just a shakedown. "IF YOU’RE OUT THERE YOU'RE VULNERABLE. PEOPLE PREFER TO DISAPPEAR IN LIFE, TO REPRESS THEIR PERSONALITY. THAT'S NOT LIVING. IT'S DYING. I SEE THEM ALL OVER THE PLACE, THE WALKING DEAD." | |
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In 1970, I Corinthians 6:9 read as followed-
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ehuffnsd said: In 1970, I Corinthians 6:9 read as followed-
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulteres, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effiminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind. In 1982 ,the same scripture read like this- Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodimites. In 2001 the same scripture reads like this- Surely you know that the people who do wrong will not inherit God’s kingdom. Do not be fooled, those who sin sexually, worship idols, take part in adultery, those who are male prostitutes, or men who have sexual relations with other men, those who steal, are greedy, get drunk, lie about others, or rob thses people will not inherit God’s kingdom. but there are a zillion different versions of the bible. who is going to be the almighty arbiter deciding which versions get to remain as is and which versions must be changed? "IF YOU’RE OUT THERE YOU'RE VULNERABLE. PEOPLE PREFER TO DISAPPEAR IN LIFE, TO REPRESS THEIR PERSONALITY. THAT'S NOT LIVING. IT'S DYING. I SEE THEM ALL OVER THE PLACE, THE WALKING DEAD." | |
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sassybritches said: ehuffnsd said: In 1970, I Corinthians 6:9 read as followed-
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulteres, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effiminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind. In 1982 ,the same scripture read like this- Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodimites. In 2001 the same scripture reads like this- Surely you know that the people who do wrong will not inherit God’s kingdom. Do not be fooled, those who sin sexually, worship idols, take part in adultery, those who are male prostitutes, or men who have sexual relations with other men, those who steal, are greedy, get drunk, lie about others, or rob thses people will not inherit God’s kingdom. but there are a zillion different versions of the bible. who is going to be the almighty arbiter deciding which versions get to remain as is and which versions must be changed? well he is saying this particlar company changed it's bible. which is clearly shown above. | |
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How silly.
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truefunksoldier said: How silly.
Why get upset over a fictional fairy tale book? people use those fairy tales to prevent gay people from living their lifes. | |
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ehuffnsd said: truefunksoldier said: How silly.
Why get upset over a fictional fairy tale book? people use those fairy tales to prevent gay people from living their lifes. Then sue the people, not the book publishers. | |
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