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Lebron James Vogue Cover (King Kong)



Apparently, this is a hot subject at the moment.

Any of you see any racist imagery in this photo?


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Reply #1 posted 03/26/08 10:46am

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Reply #2 posted 03/26/08 10:48am

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this was already posted, but maybe it will go another round.

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Reply #3 posted 03/26/08 10:50am

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Ah, just heard about it. lol

was the thread locked?

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Reply #4 posted 03/26/08 10:55am

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Reply #5 posted 03/26/08 11:37am

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Besides the look on his face, there is nothing wrong with this photo at all.

Some people look for racism in everything. neutral

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Reply #6 posted 03/26/08 11:38am

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Wow! Saw this last night and didn't think a damn thing about it lol I just thought it was like a victory scream. Slamming balls in both senses of the word lol

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Reply #7 posted 03/26/08 11:39am

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Empress said:

Besides the look on his face, there is nothing wrong with this photo at all.

Some people look for racism in everything. neutral

Some see it in NOTHING.

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Reply #8 posted 03/26/08 11:42am

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Empress said:

Besides the look on his face, there is nothing wrong with this photo at all.

Some people look for racism in everything. neutral
To be honest, I didn't see anything in it but stupidity. I have no idea why LeBron is on the cover of Vogue.

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Reply #9 posted 03/26/08 11:45am

Empress

Graycap23 said:

Empress said:

Besides the look on his face, there is nothing wrong with this photo at all.

Some people look for racism in everything. neutral

Some see it in NOTHING.


True.

I think the media blows things way out too. It's not a good shot of either of them, but I don't see anything racist about it. Some might say it's because I'm not black though shrug

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Reply #10 posted 03/26/08 11:46am

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Stymie said:

Empress said:

Besides the look on his face, there is nothing wrong with this photo at all.

Some people look for racism in everything. neutral
To be honest, I didn't see anything in it but stupidity. I have no idea why LeBron is on the cover of Vogue.


Well, that's a good question. Perhaps to sell magazines seeing as he's the best NBA player (other than Kobe wink ) out there today.

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Reply #11 posted 03/26/08 11:50am

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Empress said:

Stymie said:

To be honest, I didn't see anything in it but stupidity. I have no idea why LeBron is on the cover of Vogue.


Well, that's a good question. Perhaps to sell magazines seeing as he's the best NBA player (other than Kobe wink ) out there today.

also is considered one of the more stylish players.

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Reply #12 posted 03/26/08 11:52am

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ehuffnsd said:

Empress said:



Well, that's a good question. Perhaps to sell magazines seeing as he's the best NBA player (other than Kobe wink ) out there today.

also is considered one of the more stylish players.


Yes, that's true too. He certainly is stylish. I love watching him play, but it makes me cry when he walks all over my beloved Raptors.

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Reply #13 posted 03/26/08 12:04pm

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ehuffnsd said:

Empress said:



Well, that's a good question. Perhaps to sell magazines seeing as he's the best NBA player (other than Kobe wink ) out there today.

also is considered one of the more stylish players.
If he was so stylish, why he dressed like that on the cover? It's Vogue for Christ sake. lol

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Reply #14 posted 03/26/08 12:16pm

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Stymie said:

ehuffnsd said:


also is considered one of the more stylish players.
If he was so stylish, why he dressed like that on the cover? It's Vogue for Christ sake. lol

cause it's a women's magazine and women fantazie about having sex with a basket ball player?

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Reply #15 posted 03/26/08 12:19pm

Stymie

ehuffnsd said:

Stymie said:

If he was so stylish, why he dressed like that on the cover? It's Vogue for Christ sake. lol

cause it's a women's magazine and women fantazie about having sex with a basket ball player?
Eww, no I don't fantasize about having sex with ball players. lol

And he could have had on a very nice three piece and everyone would still know who he is and there would be no controversy right now.

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Reply #16 posted 03/26/08 12:20pm

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Stymie said:

ehuffnsd said:


cause it's a women's magazine and women fantazie about having sex with a basket ball player?
Eww, no I don't fantasize about having sex with ball players. lol

And he could have had on a very nice three piece and everyone would still know who he is and there would be no controversy right now.

i don't know who he is. maybe it's to let the gays know what he does?

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Reply #17 posted 03/26/08 12:29pm

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Empress said:

Besides the look on his face, there is nothing wrong with this photo at all.

Some people look for racism in everything. neutral


OR - Some people are completely oblivious to it. thumbs up!

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Reply #18 posted 03/26/08 12:32pm

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MuthaFunka said:

Empress said:

Besides the look on his face, there is nothing wrong with this photo at all.

Some people look for racism in everything. neutral


OR - Some people are completely oblivious to it. thumbs up!


And some people thrive on it!

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Reply #19 posted 03/26/08 12:35pm

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Empress said:

MuthaFunka said:



OR - Some people are completely oblivious to it. thumbs up!


And some people thrive on it!


And some people just can't ever believe it still exists. thumbs up!

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Reply #20 posted 03/26/08 12:39pm

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Empress said:

MuthaFunka said:



OR - Some people are completely oblivious to it. thumbs up!


And some people thrive on it!

We KNOW that.....that's why it still EXIST.

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The TRUTH.
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Reply #21 posted 03/26/08 12:42pm

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Graycap23 said:

Empress said:



And some people thrive on it!

We KNOW that.....that's why it still EXIST.


PREACH THAT SHIT!

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Reply #22 posted 03/26/08 12:48pm

Empress

Graycap23 said:

Empress said:



And some people thrive on it!

We KNOW that.....that's why it still EXIST.


Yes, unfortunately it definitely does exist, BUT.....this cover is not the least bit racist. People should find something else to focus their energy on other than a photo on a magazine. And, a photo that LeBron himself approved of.

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Reply #23 posted 03/26/08 12:57pm

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Empress said:

Graycap23 said:


We KNOW that.....that's why it still EXIST.


Yes, unfortunately it definitely does exist, BUT.....this cover is not the least bit racist. People should find something else to focus their energy on other than a photo on a magazine. And, a photo that LeBron himself approved of.


But of course, in your opinion it's not. I mean, how could it possibly be, right? thumbs up!

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Reply #24 posted 03/26/08 1:01pm

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lazycrockett said:

this was already posted, but maybe it will go another round.



oh, you KNOW it will neutral

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Reply #25 posted 03/26/08 1:19pm

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Dang. A brother can't appear on the cover of a magazine without someone breaking out the race card. I guess if Lebron appeared on the cover of Sesame Street magazine with Oscar the Grouch, we would be up in arms about the brother being compared with trash or being mad all the time.

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JellyBean said:

Dang. A brother can't appear on the cover of a magazine without someone breaking out the race card. I guess if Lebron appeared on the cover of Sesame Street magazine with Oscar the Grouch, we would be up in arms about the brother being compared with trash or being mad all the time.


OR - It REALLY DOES look like "King Kong holding Faye Ray" and it IS insulting to the Black community. hmmm

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Reply #27 posted 03/26/08 1:57pm

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i think this say it all!
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I'm black, and I'm pissed off most of the time, but I wouldn't leave home without the handbook. Not in these racist-ly confusing times. I can barely keep up with when I'm supposed to be disappointed as opposed to offended as opposed to being pissed smooth the **** off.

Right now I need to know where this LeBron James-Gisele Bundchen-Vogue-cover controversy falls. And just who am I supposed to be mad at, LeBron, the photographer, the editors at Vogue or Tom Brady?

Maybe they're all to blame. Maybe that's the point of this whole mess. Or maybe they're just as bewildered as I am.

According to the allegations, King James looks like King Kong clutching Fay Wray on the latest cover of Vogue, and the image, according to potential handbook writers, "conjures up this idea of a dangerous black man."

Hmm, to LeBron and his handlers, he looks like LeBron clutching a pretty white woman on the latest cover of Vogue, and the image conjures up the idea that LeBron can race up court with a basketball and a supermodel.

I agree with LeBron. The photographer captured him exactly as he is. You know, when he covered his body in tatts years ago, mimicking a death-row inmate, LeBron invited people to jump to the conclusion that he's dangerous. Yeah, that's the way the image-is-everything game is played. Ink is a prison and gang thing. Don't act like you don't know the origin.

Vogue put a mirror in our face, and we're complaining about the reflection. Half the black players in the NBA take the court each night in front of white audiences tatted from neck to toe like they're shooting a scene for Prison (Fast)Break.


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When David Stern insisted on helping these players with their image by implementing a dress code, many of the players and their media groupies screamed racism. You see, showing up to work in a white T and iced-out (heavy jewelry) was their way of showing loyalty to their boys in the 'hood, a shout-out to the corner boys and girls.

And any time someone with common sense points out that athletes are making fools of themselves and feeding negative stereotypes, he or she is shouted down as a sellout, racist or out of touch.

Just look at how much heat the NFL takes for trying to stop Chad Johnson from bojangling. This is why a handbook to clear up the confusion is so necessary. When Johnson slaps in his gold teeth, dyes and cuts his hair into a blonde Mohawk, dances a jig in the end zone and makes life absolute hell on his black coach, that is fun and good for the game.

But when King James apes King Kong it is a terrible blow to the perception of black men.

Would we be having this discussion if LeBron struck the same pose on the cover of Ebony while holding Selita Ebanks? Think about it. And if we wouldn't be having the discussion, what does that say about us? Are we only bothered by negative images of black men when the primary/sole consumer of the image is white people?

Vogue ain't for us. Tyler Perry's new movie, Meet the Browns, was produced with us in mind. It had a great box-office debut, coming in at No. 2 with a take of more than $20 million. It also broke records for negative black stereotypes and simple-mindedness.

We ate it up, and I've yet to hear much of an outcry about a romantic comedy built around a single mama with three baby daddies, her loud-mouthed, weed-smoking, gun-toting Latino best girlfriend, a deadbeat daddy, a drunk sister and a deceased father who was a pimp-turned-preacher. I could go on. This list is endless.


Rather than reading and hearing universal condemnation of Tyler Perry, the drag-queen moviemaker is being hailed as a genius for recognizing what attracts us to the movie theatre.

I'm telling you we need a handbook. We need something athletes, entertainers, black and white folks can easily refer to when deciding how to react to the images we choose to project. The chapter on rap-music videos could be studied at major universities across the globe. I'd like for Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Exploitation Television, to pen that section when he comes off the Clinton campaign trail.

LeBron James is a kid, and his talents as a basketball player and absence of a father allowed him to "grow up" rather than be "raised." His stated goal is to be one of the richest men in the world. Like Paris Hilton, Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan, he is a child celebrity interested in increasing his fame and little else.

He's in very good and very deep company when it comes to being unconcerned with and unqualified for the job of representing black men in a positive light.

Hell, given our current state of confusion, I'm not sure Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. could handle the job.

Jason Whitlock can be reached by email at Ballstate68@aol.com.

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Reply #28 posted 03/26/08 3:58pm

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:spit:Jason Whitlock - The biggest self-promoting fraudulent brotha working the sports pages these days! Shitlock is the same dude that calls HIMSELF "The Big Sexy" yet in one of his articles he had the nerve to talk about how the media negatively portrays Black men/athletes as "Highly Sexual Beings" eek .

I remember calling his ass out on that at an event for black media and he just laughed it off - Then I called his ass a "Fraudulent media ho" after that - Needless to say, he wasn't too fond of that quip. thumbs up!

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Reply #29 posted 03/26/08 4:01pm

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MuthaFunka said:

:spit:Jason Whitlock - The biggest self-promoting fraudulent brotha working the sports pages these days! Shitlock is the same dude that calls HIMSELF "The Big Sexy" yet in one of his articles he had the nerve to talk about how the media negatively portrays Black men/athletes as "Highly Sexual Beings" eek .

I remember calling his ass out on that at an event for black media and he just laughed it off - Then I called his ass a "Fraudulent media ho" after that - Needless to say, he wasn't too fond of that quip. thumbs up!

can you provide links or is this just another case where a black man speeks the truth and is labeled an uncle tom

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