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Richard Dawkins I just finished reading The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. I've read other books by RD and was fortunate enough to get the last ticket to his lecture at ASU a couple of weeks ago. Anyone else see him while he was on tour the past few weeks? | |
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syrinx7 said: I just finished reading The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. I've read other books by RD and was fortunate enough to get the last ticket to his lecture at ASU a couple of weeks ago. Anyone else see him while he was on tour the past few weeks?
I met the good professor last September in DC at a convention. I got him to sign my copy of The God Delusion and my copy of Unweaving the Rainbow (my favorite Dawkins book). It was a great, all star event. You'd think they were rock stars the way they were received by the crowds. I also got to meet and get my books signed by Christopher Hitchens, Ayaan Hirsi Ali  , Daniel Dennet and Sam Harris
I actually had a nice long chat with Sam and his beautiful wife. Sam is unmatched when it comes to debating with theists. He's so calm, cool and collected. I love him! 
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Dawkins' atheistic worldview promotes the idea that humans are machines, used for the benefit and survival of our own genes (The Selfish Gene). In general, his atheism teaches that nothing is right or wrong, that the universe is cold and indifferent to our existence. In other words, we don't matter, our existence is meaningless, and there is no hope. There's just suffering at the hands of a cold indifferent universe until our consciousness is snuffed out for eternity.
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful WORKS OF DARKNESS, but rather EXPOSE THEM.. Ephesians 5:11" | |
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TheResistor said: syrinx7 said: I just finished reading The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. I've read other books by RD and was fortunate enough to get the last ticket to his lecture at ASU a couple of weeks ago. Anyone else see him while he was on tour the past few weeks?
I met the good professor last September in DC at a convention. I got him to sign my copy of The God Delusion and my copy of Unweaving the Rainbow (my favorite Dawkins book). It was a great, all star event. You'd think they were rock stars the way they were received by the crowds. I also got to meet and get my books signed by Christopher Hitchens, Ayaan Hirsi Ali , Daniel Dennet and Sam Harris
I actually had a nice long chat with Sam and his beautiful wife. Sam is unmatched when it comes to debating with theists. He's so calm, cool and collected. I love him! I had found out about the ASU event a week before it happened. I got the last ticket on Ticketmaster and it literally was the last seat...the highest balcony...the last row...the last seat...What an experience! I haven't heard Sam Harris debate, I've only seen him on the Four Horsemen video. Dennett and Hitchens I've seen on other shows. Ali, I haven't seen. I'm going to check out Harris right now on youtube. | |
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thepope2the9s said: Dawkins' atheistic worldview promotes the idea that humans are machines, used for the benefit and survival of our own genes (The Selfish Gene). In general, his atheism teaches that nothing is right or wrong, that the universe is cold and indifferent to our existence. In other words, we don't matter, our existence is meaningless, and there is no hope. There's just suffering at the hands of a cold indifferent universe until our consciousness is snuffed out for eternity.
How sad. What have you read by Dawkins? | |
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thepope2the9s said: Dawkins' atheistic worldview promotes the idea that humans are machines, used for the benefit and survival of our own genes (The Selfish Gene). In general, his atheism teaches that nothing is right or wrong, that the universe is cold and indifferent to our existence. In other words, we don't matter, our existence is meaningless, and there is no hope. There's just suffering at the hands of a cold indifferent universe until our consciousness is snuffed out for eternity.
How sad. I think you're confusing Atheism with Nihilism. Try reading Unweaving the Rainbow and see if you think the same thing.
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syrinx7 said: TheResistor said: I met the good professor last September in DC at a convention. I got him to sign my copy of The God Delusion and my copy of Unweaving the Rainbow (my favorite Dawkins book). It was a great, all star event. You'd think they were rock stars the way they were received by the crowds. I also got to meet and get my books signed by Christopher Hitchens, Ayaan Hirsi Ali , Daniel Dennet and Sam Harris
I actually had a nice long chat with Sam and his beautiful wife. Sam is unmatched when it comes to debating with theists. He's so calm, cool and collected. I love him! I had found out about the ASU event a week before it happened. I got the last ticket on Ticketmaster and it literally was the last seat...the highest balcony...the last row...the last seat...What an experience! I haven't heard Sam Harris debate, I've only seen him on the Four Horsemen video. Dennett and Hitchens I've seen on other shows. Ali, I haven't seen. I'm going to check out Harris right now on youtube. Cool. Let me know what you think of Harris?
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thepope2the9s said: Dawkins' atheistic worldview promotes the idea that humans are machines, used for the benefit and survival of our own genes (The Selfish Gene). In general, his atheism teaches that nothing is right or wrong, that the universe is cold and indifferent to our existence. In other words, we don't matter, our existence is meaningless, and there is no hope. There's just suffering at the hands of a cold indifferent universe until our consciousness is snuffed out for eternity.
How sad. so we should make scientific conclusions not on research, evidence and facts, but on how happy or sad it makes you? okay. I find it rather sad, that you need religion or an almighty God to tell you what is wrong or right. so fear of punishment leads your actions. that is sad. anyway the Dawkins stance is still better than to suffer at the hands of a cold indifferent God having no problem to drown men and animals in droves, who uses us mainly for his entertainment and forces us to worship. "accept me as your only God, accept me as your saviour who died for your sins, and pray to me exclusively. do all that or toast in hell." that's a dictator misusing his powers. brutal force and blackmail, nothing else. "Free will" my arse How sad. [Edited 3/27/08 2:55am] The enormous gap between what US leaders do in the world and what Americans think their leaders are doing is one of the great propaganda accomplishments of the dominant political mythology. - Michael Parenti | |
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TheResistor said: thepope2the9s said: Dawkins' atheistic worldview promotes the idea that humans are machines, used for the benefit and survival of our own genes (The Selfish Gene). In general, his atheism teaches that nothing is right or wrong, that the universe is cold and indifferent to our existence. In other words, we don't matter, our existence is meaningless, and there is no hope. There's just suffering at the hands of a cold indifferent universe until our consciousness is snuffed out for eternity.
How sad. I think you're confusing Atheism with Nihilism. Try reading Unweaving the Rainbow and see if you think the same thing. Amen!! (yes, I am aware of the irony) L I'm just, I'm just Levi from the org | |
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GeorgeWBush said: thepope2the9s said: Dawkins' atheistic worldview promotes the idea that humans are machines, used for the benefit and survival of our own genes (The Selfish Gene). In general, his atheism teaches that nothing is right or wrong, that the universe is cold and indifferent to our existence. In other words, we don't matter, our existence is meaningless, and there is no hope. There's just suffering at the hands of a cold indifferent universe until our consciousness is snuffed out for eternity.
How sad. so we should make scientific conclusions not on research, evidence and facts, but on how happy or sad it makes you? okay. I find it rather sad, that you need religion or an almighty God to tell you what is wrong or right. so fear of punishment leads your actions. that is sad. anyway the Dawkins stance is still better than to suffer at the hands of a cold indifferent God having no problem to drown men and animals in droves, who uses us mainly for his entertainment and forces us to worship. "accept me as your only God, accept me as your saviour who died for your sins, and pray to me exclusively. do all that or toast in hell." that's a dictator misusing his powers. brutal force and blackmail, nothing else. "Free will" my arse How sad. A-fucking-men!  | |
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thepope2the9s said: In other words, we don't matter, our existence is meaningless, and there is no hope. There's just suffering at the hands of a cold indifferent universe until our consciousness is snuffed out for eternity.
Yep, I'd say that's about the size of it.  | |
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GeorgeWBush said: thepope2the9s said: Dawkins' atheistic worldview promotes the idea that humans are machines, used for the benefit and survival of our own genes (The Selfish Gene). In general, his atheism teaches that nothing is right or wrong, that the universe is cold and indifferent to our existence. In other words, we don't matter, our existence is meaningless, and there is no hope. There's just suffering at the hands of a cold indifferent universe until our consciousness is snuffed out for eternity.
How sad. so we should make scientific conclusions not on research, evidence and facts, but on how happy or sad it makes you? okay. I find it rather sad, that you need religion or an almighty God to tell you what is wrong or right. so fear of punishment leads your actions. that is sad. anyway the Dawkins stance is still better than to suffer at the hands of a cold indifferent God having no problem to drown men and animals in droves, who uses us mainly for his entertainment and forces us to worship. "accept me as your only God, accept me as your saviour who died for your sins, and pray to me exclusively. do all that or toast in hell." that's a dictator misusing his powers. brutal force and blackmail, nothing else. "Free will" my arse How sad. [Edited 3/27/08 2:55am] At least in Dawkins scenario we aren't victims and pawns of a higher power  I stay Woke.
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I liked this essay by Terry Eagleton on Dawkins's The God Delusion:
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deebee said: I liked this essay by Terry Eagleton on Dawkins's The God Delusion:
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/...gl01_.html You liked it? Really? Why, I wonder. Typical apologetics. Have you read any of Dawkin's books?
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