Is Dave Chapelle anti gay?

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No Dave, I thought he was more open minded.
He is articulate and belives what he is saying, he's a cool, smart dude.
As a gay man and fan, it would be like one of Dave's idols talking out about playing a black man or kissing a black woman in the 60's.

Is he black?

it's interesting to watch Oprah's response.

i'm trying to figure out if this is about changes to an agreed-to script, or if he's truly talking about a "vast gay-wing conspiracy".

twink69 said:

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No Dave, I thought he was more open minded.
He is articulate and belives what he is saying, he's a cool, smart dude.
As a gay man and fan, it would be like one of Dave's idols talking out about playing a black man or kissing a black woman in the 60's.

I doubt he's anti-gay (what does not wanting to wear a dress have to do with being gay? Are you saying that wearing a dress is gay? )

Any way I think he was more concerned with the production trying to take away his masculinity. Black men in early film were always in some way put in roles that some how either toned down their sexuality [insert black male stereotypes here] or just made them outright eunichs . From what I get it wasn't a rip on being gay but just a personal opinion.

fcukthepolice said:

Realistically, a comedians job is to be pro-funny & anti- s , anti-establishment and get people to think outside the propaganda/bullshit that the media hand feeds them day to day. Now, ask George Carlin & Paul Mooney the same question.

The conversation WASN'T a gay conversation until he conveniently put in "What is this Brokeback Mountain." Whatever.

This interview didn't make me made it just annoyed me. I was like, whatever.
It wasn't that serious. It should have been "I'm not wearing the dress, I don't feel comfortable." That's it.

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

coolcat said:

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

The conversation WASN'T a gay conversation until he conveniently put in "What is this Brokeback Mountain." Whatever.

This interview didn't make me made it just annoyed me. I was like, whatever.
It wasn't that serious. It should have been "I'm not wearing the dress, I don't feel comfortable." That's it.

He went overboard with the gay conspiracy stuff.

fcukthepolice said:

heybaby said:

I doubt he's anti-gay (what does not wanting to wear a dress have to do with being gay? Are you saying that wearing a dress is gay? )

Any way I think he was more concerned with the production trying to take away his masculinity. Black men in early film were always in some way put in roles that some how either toned down their sexuality [insert black male stereotypes here] or just made them outright eunichs . From what I get it wasn't a rip on being gay but just a personal opinion.

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heybaby said:

I doubt he's anti-gay (what does not wanting to wear a dress have to do with being gay? Are you saying that wearing a dress is gay? )

Any way I think he was more concerned with the production trying to take away his masculinity. Black men in early film were always in some way put in roles that some how either toned down their sexuality [insert black male stereotypes here] or just made them outright eunichs . From what I get it wasn't a rip on being gay but just a personal opinion.

he's muslim..

twink69 said:

heybaby said:

I doubt he's anti-gay (what does not wanting to wear a dress have to do with being gay? Are you saying that wearing a dress is gay? )

Any way I think he was more concerned with the production trying to take away his masculinity. Black men in early film were always in some way put in roles that some how either toned down their sexuality [insert black male stereotypes here] or just made them outright eunichs . From what I get it wasn't a rip on being gay but just a personal opinion.

He was talking about been emasculated, then related that experience with been associated as gay and that been associated been Gay was a way to bring the Black man down.

Not to mention the added insult (firt being emasculation) and second being yet another "seedy black-woman" stereotype to lauh at. That's known as a 2-4-1.

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[Edited 3/8/08 3:38am]

coolcat said:

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

The conversation WASN'T a gay conversation until he conveniently put in "What is this Brokeback Mountain." Whatever.

This interview didn't make me made it just annoyed me. I was like, whatever.
It wasn't that serious. It should have been "I'm not wearing the dress, I don't feel comfortable." That's it.

He went overboard with the gay conspiracy stuff.

I get the sense that Chappelle is speaking to a broader deal, here. Much of his discussions and interviews about why he walked away from his contract and show have dealt with maintaining his idea of personal integrity and identity.

He's not a dress-wearing kind of guy. As another non-dress-wearing kind of guy, I can relate to his not wanting to wear one. Right or not, his comment about Brokeback Mountain touched upon his perspective that wearing women's clothing is, on all sorts of levels, immasculine and contrary to his identity. Just like saying certain jokes and agreeing to certain storylines apparently conflicted with his identity.

If anything, it is likely that this snippet occurred within an overall context of his discussion about how Hollywood likes to control people. Hence his point about the film's crew having an alternate scene for him ready in about 10 minutes. To him, it was more about sticking to his standards within an industry that rewards compromise.

Ottensen said:

coolcat said:

He went overboard with the gay conspiracy stuff.

I didn't see it as gay conspiracy vs. the idea black men are emasculated onscreen and have been throughout the history of film in America. It's a systematic theme that reflects institutional racism against black males in American society. I don't see him refusing to wear a dress as being different from not wanting to play the "step & fetch it" role that would have garnered him 50 mil for a 3rd season of Chapelle's Show...

ThreadBare said:

coolcat said:

Quit whining, dave Chappelle ain't said nothing anti gay!!!! He is a funny comedian and he was just asking why is every black main actor why they always stick them in a dress like Martin Lawrence, Ving Rhames, wesley Snipes

What's wrong with a man wearing a dress? I've seen straight men wear dresses and skirts, they just call them different names to make them feel ok about wearing them, but it still is what it is. Not wearing a dress doesn't make a man more masculine or more of a man

twink69 said:

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No Dave, I thought he was more open minded.
He is articulate and belives what he is saying, he's a cool, smart dude.
As a gay man and fan, it would be like one of Dave's idols talking out about playing a black man or kissing a black woman in the 60's.

The only time I would ever want to get into a damn dress is if there's a woman already wearing it.

Janfriend said:

ThreadBare said:

Janfriend said:

alwayslate said:

twink69 said:

http://youtube.com/watch?...re=related

No Dave, I thought he was more open minded.
He is articulate and belives what he is saying, he's a cool, smart dude.
As a gay man and fan, it would be like one of Dave's idols talking out about playing a black man or kissing a black woman in the 60's.

I didn't realize that wearing dresses was a prerequisite for being a gay man.

As a Black woman, I've been compared to a lot of things, but never have I been compared to a garment. And I'll say this also, I get so tired of gay people equating their experiences with prejudice (real or perceived)to that of Black people. That gets the fuck on my nerves. Dave doesn't want to wear a dress. So that means he hates homosexuals. Are you for real? I don't want any man of mine wearing a damn dress so what does that make me?
[Edited 3/9/08 17:01pm]