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Reparations Since they get mentioned so often in threads here, how do you all think they should theoretically be handled? how much of a particular race would one have to be to be considered eligible for them? where should this money/land/etc come from, and should it go to groups or individuals?
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That is a tough question. Is apologizing a good start?
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shanti0608 said: That is a tough question. Is apologizing a good start?
We have to start somewhere. i think it's at least a start, but i've read a lot of posts writing off even an apology. i dunno.  | |
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Reparations to include land and wealth would mean the possibility of shared power.
instead of saying cheese when I take a picture, Imma say PHIMOSIS | |
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evenstar said: Since they get mentioned so often in threads here, how do you all think they should theoretically be handled? how much of a particular race would one have to be to be considered eligible for them? where should this money/land/etc come from, and should it go to groups or individuals?
edited to include paintedlady's views. [Edited 2/25/08 10:39am] Isn't reparations a big word for such a young girl? ha!! I could not pass that up..since we are all aloud to be funny around here.  | |
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paintedlady said: Reparations to include land and wealth would mean the possibility of shared power.
The real question might be... do those that are in power want to share it? Can we share wealth? Really? The thing is some people have made it about that when there are only a few with that desire. Most simply want to live comfortably and share resources. That was the reality of most before the ugly moments in history. | |
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shanti0608 said: evenstar said: Since they get mentioned so often in threads here, how do you all think they should theoretically be handled? how much of a particular race would one have to be to be considered eligible for them? where should this money/land/etc come from, and should it go to groups or individuals?
edited to include paintedlady's views. [Edited 2/25/08 10:39am] Isn't reparations a big word for such a young girl? ha!! I could not pass that up..since we are all aloud to be funny around here. 
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Reparations in the form of cash settlements is a bad idea IMO, however I think reparations in the form of secure and fully funded education and full upkeep on infrastructure is the place to begin. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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evenstar said: shanti0608 said: Isn't reparations a big word for such a young girl? ha!! I could not pass that up..since we are all aloud to be funny around here.
i totally had to look up how to spell it 
It is a funny word to spell...plays tricks on your eyes. | |
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Dance said: paintedlady said: Reparations to include land and wealth would mean the possibility of shared power.
The real question might be... do those that are in power want to share it? Can we share wealth? Really? The thing is some people have made it about that when there are only a few with that desire. Most simply want to live comfortably and share resources. That was the reality of most before the ugly moments in history. truth  instead of saying cheese when I take a picture, Imma say PHIMOSIS | |
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paintedlady said: Dance said: The thing is some people have made it about that when there are only a few with that desire. Most simply want to live comfortably and share resources. That was the reality of most before the ugly moments in history. truth You're not kidding, and with that being said... Truth "It’s like the sharp edge of a sword cutting through the soul Erupting emotions like a calm before the storm Revealing the nakedness of its reality Yet bears the fruit of peace" -- [Edited 2/25/08 12:40pm] The patience and love I am blessed with, is the golden key for my strength and survival.  | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Reparations in the form of cash settlements is a bad idea IMO, however I think reparations in the form of secure and fully funded education and full upkeep on infrastructure is the place to begin.
I agree with you there, Supa. It's one thing to receive money that you don't know how to invest or save. It's another to build a foundation where people's backs have been used to build the very foundation(s) of the U.S. I am MrVictor.... | |
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xpsiter said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Reparations in the form of cash settlements is a bad idea IMO, however I think reparations in the form of secure and fully funded education and full upkeep on infrastructure is the place to begin.
I agree with you there, Supa. It's one thing to receive money that you don't know how to invest or save. It's another to build a foundation where people's backs have been used to build the very foundation(s) of the U.S. Exactly. Since it was the black people that built the foundation of this nation, there should be ZERO ISSUES with building, maintaining, funding and providing schools with nothing but the best to help insure sucess of generations to come. This really is not unreasonable. [Edited 2/25/08 12:44pm] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: xpsiter said: I agree with you there, Supa. It's one thing to receive money that you don't know how to invest or save. It's another to build a foundation where people's backs have been used to build the very foundation(s) of the U.S. Exactly. Since it was the black people that built the foundation of this nation, there should be ZERO ISSUES with building, maintaining, funding and providing schools with nothing but the best to help insure sucess of generations to come. This really is not unreasonable. [Edited 2/25/08 12:44pm] Supa, you have good intentions, but it's not happening, at least not for Black folks. The patience and love I am blessed with, is the golden key for my strength and survival. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Reparations in the form of cash settlements is a bad idea IMO, however I think reparations in the form of secure and fully funded education and full upkeep on infrastructure is the place to begin.
That SHOULD be the right of every man,woman and child everywhere | |
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mdiver said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Reparations in the form of cash settlements is a bad idea IMO, however I think reparations in the form of secure and fully funded education and full upkeep on infrastructure is the place to begin.
That SHOULD be the right of every man,woman and child everywhere Of course it should Phil. That is a given. But this country DOES owe a debt to this specific group for their usually unrecognized contribution to the health and wealth of this nation. In the context of reparations this is owed to the black community. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: mdiver said: That SHOULD be the right of every man,woman and child everywhere Of course it should Phil. That is a given. But this country DOES owe a debt to this specific group for their usually unrecognized contribution to the health and wealth of this nation. In the context of reparations this is owed to the black community. That is why i said should dude | |
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mdiver said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Of course it should Phil. That is a given. But this country DOES owe a debt to this specific group for their usually unrecognized contribution to the health and wealth of this nation. In the context of reparations this is owed to the black community. That is why i said should dude well this thread isn't about the whole of humanity!  It's about reparations specifically. Now use that soapbox to clean your arse!  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: mdiver said: That is why i said should dude well this thread isn't about the whole of humanity! It's about reparations specifically. Now use that soapbox to clean your arse! Ahhhhh, i was under the impression this was a public forum. 
Racism affects EVERYONE. Prejudice and the effects of being down trodden can be traced back by all of our families. Does the title say "Reparations for African Americans"?....NO it does not. So i suggest you take your soap box and jog on Richard
Some of my family were stripped of their land in Europe.....are reparations due for that? Some of my family suffered persecution at the hands of the Nazis...are reparations due for that? I made a statement based on how i feel about HUMANITY not skin colour. If you don't like it.....tough shit. | |
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mdiver said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: well this thread isn't about the whole of humanity! It's about reparations specifically. Now use that soapbox to clean your arse! Ahhhhh, i was under the impression this was a public forum.
Racism affects EVERYONE. Prejudice and the effects of being down trodden can be traced back by all of our families. Does the title say "Reparations for African Americans"?....NO it does not. So i suggest you take your soap box and jog on Richard
Some of my family were stripped of their land in Europe.....are reparations due for that? Some of my family suffered persecution at the hands of the Nazis...are reparations due for that? I made a statement based on how i feel about HUMANITY not skin colour. If you don't like it.....tough shit. Didn't jewish people get some money from Germany and companies involved in laundering nazi money that they stole from jewish people? ( i don't know, I'm just asking?) | |
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jaimestarr79 said: mdiver said: Ahhhhh, i was under the impression this was a public forum.
Racism affects EVERYONE. Prejudice and the effects of being down trodden can be traced back by all of our families. Does the title say "Reparations for African Americans"?....NO it does not. So i suggest you take your soap box and jog on Richard
Some of my family were stripped of their land in Europe.....are reparations due for that? Some of my family suffered persecution at the hands of the Nazis...are reparations due for that? I made a statement based on how i feel about HUMANITY not skin colour. If you don't like it.....tough shit. Didn't jewish people get some money from Germany and companies involved in laundering nazi money that they stole from jewish people? ( i don't know, I'm just asking?) There have been some payouts but nothing in comparison to what was taken | |
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mdiver said: jaimestarr79 said: Didn't jewish people get some money from Germany and companies involved in laundering nazi money that they stole from jewish people? ( i don't know, I'm just asking?) There have been some payouts but nothing in comparison to what was taken Your right about that. That was some fucked up shit for anybody to go through. | |
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mdiver said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: well this thread isn't about the whole of humanity! It's about reparations specifically. Now use that soapbox to clean your arse! Ahhhhh, i was under the impression this was a public forum.
Racism affects EVERYONE. Prejudice and the effects of being down trodden can be traced back by all of our families. Does the title say "Reparations for African Americans"?....NO it does not. So i suggest you take your soap box and jog on Richard
Some of my family were stripped of their land in Europe.....are reparations due for that? Some of my family suffered persecution at the hands of the Nazis...are reparations due for that? I made a statement based on how i feel about HUMANITY not skin colour. If you don't like it.....tough shit. Well I am sure that she was speaking about Reparation in relation to America!. And to answer your question, if your ancestors were thieved from, yes they are owed something. Now stop discounting what is owed to the people who built my country!  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: mdiver said: Ahhhhh, i was under the impression this was a public forum.
Racism affects EVERYONE. Prejudice and the effects of being down trodden can be traced back by all of our families. Does the title say "Reparations for African Americans"?....NO it does not. So i suggest you take your soap box and jog on Richard
Some of my family were stripped of their land in Europe.....are reparations due for that? Some of my family suffered persecution at the hands of the Nazis...are reparations due for that? I made a statement based on how i feel about HUMANITY not skin colour. If you don't like it.....tough shit. Well I am sure that she was speaking about Reparation in relation to America!. And to answer your question, if your ancestors were thieved from, yes they are owed something. Now stop discounting what is owed to the people who built my country! Which bit of my statement does that? As far as i recall i said EVERYONE, not EVERYONE except African Americans. If you are gonna poke me with a stick Richard you really should READ first | |
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mdiver said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Well I am sure that she was speaking about Reparation in relation to America!. And to answer your question, if your ancestors were thieved from, yes they are owed something. Now stop discounting what is owed to the people who built my country! Which bit of my statement does that? As far as i recall i said EVERYONE, not EVERYONE except African Americans. If you are gonna poke me with a stick Richard you really should READ first This thread isn't about everyone. Can you clarify this Laurel? Once again you cruise on into one of these threads seeking to discount the topic at hand. If you want reparations for what your European ancestors experienced in EUROPE then you can certainly create that thread. If this thread is about repartions for blacks in America then you're just minimizing 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: mdiver said: Which bit of my statement does that? As far as i recall i said EVERYONE, not EVERYONE except African Americans. If you are gonna poke me with a stick Richard you really should READ first This thread isn't about everyone. Can you clarify this Laurel? Once again you cruise on into one of these threads seeking to discount the topic at hand. If you want reparations for what your European ancestors experienced in EUROPE then you can certainly create that thread. If this thread is about repartions for blacks in America then you're just minimizing Dont tell me my intention Richard.. You tried that once before remember and you were wrong then and you are wrong now. I fail to see how the word everyone is minimizing but if in your little microcosm that is how it is then good luck with that. 
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mdiver said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: This thread isn't about everyone. Can you clarify this Laurel? Once again you cruise on into one of these threads seeking to discount the topic at hand. If you want reparations for what your European ancestors experienced in EUROPE then you can certainly create that thread. If this thread is about repartions for blacks in America then you're just minimizing Dont tell me my intention Richard.. You tried that once before remember and you were wrong then and you are wrong now. I fail to see how the word everyone is minimizing but if in your little microcosm that is how it is then good luck with that.
Like i said if you don't like it tough shit.Don't attempt to tell me what or where i can say anything. Don't even bring up the past if you know what's best!
When you bring up "everyone" you are dilluting the specificity of the topic at hand. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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i didn't mean just african-americans, but native americans, japanese, etc.