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Should there be a white history month? I would have to say no. I don't think white people suffered as much as blacks in America.
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We already have 12.
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lazycrockett said: We already have 12.
Not February and only have of March- woman's history month | |
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should there be an asian history month?
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Anxiety said: should there be an asian history month?
is there already a women's history month? (if not, should there be?) how about a gay history month? what about a native american history month? maybe one day, representatives from one of the above groups, or some other group not on the list, will make as a compelling a case as the one that ended up "getting black history month the recognition it has today. until then, i don't really see a point in asking if we need a white history month just because white is supposed to be the "opposite" of black. it's kind of simplistic, isn't it? racially, "white" can stand for a lot of heritages that aren't just diverse, they're utterly disparate. There is actually a month that celebrate Asian History, not sure which month though, I have to check it out. There is also Hispanic Heritage month in March as well as Women's month in March. Here's a link for American Indian Heritage Month http://www.infoplease.com...gins1.html "The first American Indian Day in a state was declared on the second Saturday in May 1916 by the governor of N.Y. Several states celebrate the fourth Friday in September. In Illinois, for example, legislators enacted such a day in 1919. Presently, several states have designated Columbus Day as Native American Day, but it continues to be a day we observe without any recognition as a national legal holiday." [Edited 1/29/08 18:54pm] http://prince.org/msg/15/286132
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I hope not. We celebrate white history 365 days a year,even during black history month. “Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative.” John Stuart Mill | |
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Isn't every month White History Month in America? Seriously. Which great White persons have been left out of having a celebratory day? Which great White events have been left off the calendar to where they need an entire month to celebrate?
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2Jay said: I would have to say no. I don't think white people suffered as much as blacks in America.
What are your thoughts? And i would agree with most people here. There needs to be a month for every ethnicity. | |
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I agree that every month is white history month. Although most of it is a big fat lie. I remember bookmarking this article a while back. (I bookmark everything--I just know I'll need it one day) Who Needs Black History Month?
By Paul Halley, February 2, 2006 We all do, because every month still remains white history month in this country. During an interview with Mike Wallace on "60 Minutes" last month, Academy Award winning actor Morgan Freeman called Black History month "ridiculous," igniting a firestorm of debate about its observance. Freeman told a visibly shocked Wallace, "I don't want a Black History month. Black History is American History. There's no white history month." Since Freeman's statements became public, I have read numerous editorials written by black intellectuals calling for the end of the celebration of black history month. The premise is that Black History month is no longer necessary, and that a 28 day observance both confines and trivializes the historic contributions of African-Americans in this country. Prior to even thinking about what Freeman was saying, I had to first get over my continued outrage at white people asking black actors, athletes, and entertainers what they think about issues that are outside of their areas of expertise. Publicizing the opinions of Morgan Freeman doesn't make him a spokesman for the black race. I don't see anyone seeking out Robert DeNiro for opinions about Iraq, but that's a whole different discussion. But in response to Freeman's comments, all I can say is, "Please." Celebrating Black History Month no more confines the history of African-Americans than the one day MLK holiday confines the achievements of Dr. Martin Luther King. Or that St. Patrick's Day confines the history of Irish-Americans to March 17th. Want to know how to trivialize African-American history? Eliminate Black History Month. Mr. Freeman and others maintain that in place of Black History Month, black history should be incorporated into the mainstream history of America. Their thought process is that black history can be celebrated every day by its proper inclusion in American history. Mr. Freeman went so far as to ask Mike Wallace, "Which month is white history month?" The answer unfortunately, is that every month remains white history month in this country, and it is precisely for this reason that Black History month remains relevant and necessary. Sylvia Cyrus-Albritton, director of the Association for the Study of African American Life and History, (which originated the observance of what is now Black History Month), points out that the country still has a long way to go in making its history inclusive. As she told the Baltimore Sun in December: "We have a mission to research, promote, preserve and disseminate information about the contributions of African-Americans in history and their diaspora," she said. "When that mission is complete, maybe celebrations like Black History Month can take a different slant. American history books -- and the way it is taught -- still [do] not include the full contribution of African-Americans or other minorities for that matter. "Dr. Woodson hoped that one day there would no longer be a need for Black History Month because it would be incorporated into American history all year round. So the goal Morgan Freeman speaks of is our goal as well." In some ways, I can understand where Freeman is coming from. Ideally, we wouldn't have to have a special month because American history would be inclusive of all history. Freeman, however, also seems to be advocating that we shouldn't even speak of our differences. Instead, we should just pretend that not only is everyone equal, but that we are the same. When Mike Wallace asked Freeman how we can get rid of racism, he replied: "Stop talking about it. I'm going to stop calling you a white man. And I'm going to ask you to stop calling me a black man. I know you as Mike Wallace. You know me as Morgan Freeman. You wouldn't say, 'Well, I know this white guy named Mike Wallace.' You know what I'm sayin?" I don't know about you, but I simply cannot agree with Freeman. We will not solve racial issues in this country by putting our collective heads in the sand and hoping they will go away. We can't run from our own racial past and delude ourselves that everything is ok in America. Our society still remains segregated in many ways, from where we live and where we worship, to who survives a hurricane. We like to think that we are a society beyond racism, but reality doesn't bear that out. Race is America's great taboo, and the fact is that there are differences -- cultural and physical -- between people of different races. We need to acknowledge those differences. Pretending like they don't exist is ignoring the elephant in the room. Mike Wallace is a white guy. Morgan Freeman is a black guy. Why ignore the facts? It's been said that history is written by the victors. Until American history becomes more inclusive of the contributions of all its citizens, Black History Month remains one of the few tangible ways that we can keep our nation's history accurate. Who needs Black History Month? We all do. Racism is like an insidious virus, that no one has a cure for and can't be seen.....it just keeps reinfecting the weakest minds...
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There should be any "History Months". We're all Americans and the sooner people lie Al Sharpton and other segregators can see this, the better. Al Sharpton talks about respect for the black man, but he's the one disrespecting them by making everything a special case for them. Maybe we can go to the movies and cry together | |
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We all have the freedom NOT to celebrate any of them or you can celebrate all of them if you wish.
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shanti0608 said: White is clearly NOT a race.
[Edited 1/30/08 1:19am] Really? Maybe we can go to the movies and cry together | |
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Volitan said: shanti0608 said: White is clearly NOT a race.
Really? Not one that should be celebrated apparently. I have asked here on this forum if there was such a thing as racism against white ppl..boy did I get taught a few lessons. In all honestly I think all races are important and should be celebrated. One is not and should not be more important than another. I think we should do things daily to honour and remember our history, the history of ALL races. We can do that by respecting one another even though we have differences in our skin colour. I think even when there is a month set aside for one race, there are always going to be some pp that feel left out or that think we are not celebrating that month with the right facts about the history. Like I said...we should just respect one another each day. I hear a lot of ppl say that history is taught incorrectly in schools, do many parents sit down with their children and teach them about the history of their race and instill pride into their children? | |
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shanti0608 said: do many parents sit down with their children and teach them about the history of their race and instill pride into their children?
I hope not. Pride is a sin | |
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PANDURITO said: shanti0608 said: do many parents sit down with their children and teach them about the history of their race and instill pride into their children?
I hope not. Pride is a sin did you read my entire post or just the last sentence? | |
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shanti0608 said: PANDURITO said: I hope not. Pride is a sin did you read my entire post or just the last sentence? I read your post and all the others'. | |
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PANDURITO said: shanti0608 said: did you read my entire post or just the last sentence? I read your post and all the others'. Me too...I was just being sarcastic btw...you are better at it than me. | |
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Here we go again....every Feb....
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Rhondab said: My daughter, in school, learns more about white males in history than any other group.
It's called History | |
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PANDURITO said: Rhondab said: My daughter, in school, learns more about white males in history than any other group.
It's called History oh my bad...if it was called 'herstory', there would be more white females? | |
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Rhondab said: Here we go again....every Feb....
2elijah posted and I have just ONE year ago, that there are monthly celebrations throughout the year. I've participate in a few of them annually. Shanti, please explain WHY white is CLEARLY not a race. I'm unclear. My daughter, in school, learns more about white males in history than any other group. There's only so much I expect to be taught in schools but I think that if children of all races can learn more about other races and ethnic groups, they will have a different image of those groups than just the images on television. So many don't equate intelligence and academia with the black experience. Black History month should help children who would not normally be exposed to black people to become aware of the accomplishments of black americans and how those accomplishments reach beyond MLK and athletics. This is to the benefit of all and not just to one or two groups. Personally, I actively participate in these observances. They've given me the opportunity to educate myself and my daughter on various cultures that I wouldn't have the opportunity to learn from and about. Its so annoying that every pre Feb, this gets rehashed. I was just saying that because I was told that on this forum and I was told that in school as well. When I asked why, I was told because no one is really white, we all came from some other race and nationality. I agree with you that it is important for everyone to learn about all sorts of races, cultures & nationalities. when we learn about them we can respect and understand them more. | |
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Rhondab said: PANDURITO said: It's called History oh my bad...if it was called 'herstory', there would be more white females? Socrates Albert Einstein Napoleon Bonaparte Aristotle Alexander Fleming Francis Bacon Dwight D. Eisenhower Rene Descartes John Locke Sophocles Voltaire Virgil Charlemagne Jean Jacques Rousseau Dante Alighieri Adam Smith Geoffrey Chaucer Oliver Cromwell Immanuel Kant William Shakespeare Benjamin Franklin Karl Marx John Milton Friedrich Nietzsche Charles dickens George Washington Thomas Jefferson Marco Polo Leo Tolstoy Abraham Lincoln Christopher Columbus Vasco da Gama Mark Twain Ferdinand Magellan Winston Churchill James Cook Johann Sebastian Bach Franklin D. Roosevelt Roald Amundsen George Frideric Handel Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart Archimedes Ludwig van Beethoven Johann Gutenberg Frederic Chopin Richard Wagner Thomas Edison Johannes Brahms Alexander Graham Bell Peter Tchaikovsky Henry Ford Claude Debussy The Wright Brothers Guglielmo Marconi Leonardo da Vinci Saint Augustine Raphael Michelangelo Nicolaus Copernicus Rembrandt Galileo Claude Monet Issac Newton Vincent van Gogh Charles Darwin Pablo Picasso Louis Pasteur Gregor Mendel Alexander the Great ... were white and male. What are we gona do? | |
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PANDURITO said: Rhondab said: oh my bad...if it was called 'herstory', there would be more white females? Socrates Albert Einstein Napoleon Bonaparte Aristotle Alexander Fleming Francis Bacon Dwight D. Eisenhower Rene Descartes John Locke Sophocles Voltaire Virgil Charlemagne Jean Jacques Rousseau Dante Alighieri Adam Smith Geoffrey Chaucer Oliver Cromwell Immanuel Kant William Shakespeare Benjamin Franklin Karl Marx John Milton Friedrich Nietzsche Charles dickens George Washington Thomas Jefferson Marco Polo Leo Tolstoy Abraham Lincoln Christopher Columbus Vasco da Gama Mark Twain Ferdinand Magellan Winston Churchill James Cook Johann Sebastian Bach Franklin D. Roosevelt Roald Amundsen George Frideric Handel Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart Archimedes Ludwig van Beethoven Johann Gutenberg Frederic Chopin Richard Wagner Thomas Edison Johannes Brahms Alexander Graham Bell Peter Tchaikovsky Henry Ford Claude Debussy The Wright Brothers Guglielmo Marconi Leonardo da Vinci Saint Augustine Raphael Michelangelo Nicolaus Copernicus Rembrandt Galileo Claude Monet Issac Newton Vincent van Gogh Charles Darwin Pablo Picasso Louis Pasteur Gregor Mendel Alexander the Great ... were white and male. What are we gona do? yeah....cuz there was NO women in history right? | |
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shanti0608 said: Rhondab said: Here we go again....every Feb....
2elijah posted and I have just ONE year ago, that there are monthly celebrations throughout the year. I've participate in a few of them annually. Shanti, please explain WHY white is CLEARLY not a race. I'm unclear. My daughter, in school, learns more about white males in history than any other group. There's only so much I expect to be taught in schools but I think that if children of all races can learn more about other races and ethnic groups, they will have a different image of those groups than just the images on television. So many don't equate intelligence and academia with the black experience. Black History month should help children who would not normally be exposed to black people to become aware of the accomplishments of black americans and how those accomplishments reach beyond MLK and athletics. This is to the benefit of all and not just to one or two groups. Personally, I actively participate in these observances. They've given me the opportunity to educate myself and my daughter on various cultures that I wouldn't have the opportunity to learn from and about. Its so annoying that every pre Feb, this gets rehashed. I was just saying that because I was told that on this forum and I was told that in school as well. When I asked why, I was told because no one is really white, we all came from some other race and nationality. I agree with you that it is important for everyone to learn about all sorts of races, cultures & nationalities. when we learn about them we can respect and understand them more. got'cha | |
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Rhondab said: yeah....cuz there was NO women in history right?
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PANDURITO said: Rhondab said: yeah....cuz there was NO women in history right?
my buttons shall not be pushed today by Pandy!!! | |
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PANDURITO said: We can work to change the future though so you've bought into that ONLY males have contributed to history so therefore the history books should reflect that....WOW did you just take a dip into the sexism pool Pandy? | |
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I think White History month would b a good idea.
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