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Creflo A. Dollar
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He is a pimp no diffrent than a pimp with women on the corner!!! Another way of Blacks exploited other Blacks. It is the primary reason I hate religion and the church and I left 20 yrs ago and have never looked back!!!
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rachel3 said: He is a pimp no diffrent than a pimp with women on the corner!!! Another way of Blacks exploited other Blacks. It is the primary reason I hate religion and the church and I left 20 yrs ago and have never looked back!!!
Folks follow these preachers like sheep slaughter and it makes me sick!!!! Everything is about money and nothing is for free. Right on Rachel3!! I couldn't agree more. People like this guy sicken me. | |
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and his wifes name is "Taffy" | |
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Creflo, not Crefo. lol
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Rhondab said: and his wifes name is "Taffy"
Taffy friggin' Dollar?!?! ________________
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I'm no fan o' the man, BTW. ________________
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Lammastide said: Rhondab said: and his wifes name is "Taffy"
Taffy friggin' Dollar?!?! LOL...yeah....it really is Taffy | |
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lilgish said: I don't know if he's legit or not, but the dude is living phat.Sh!t, I went into the wrong line of work. I grew up around preachers - I should have developed a rap so I could fleece these simple-minded church folks. | |
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lilgish said: Another Wolf In Sheep's Clothing.....FOLLOW HIM!!! Atlanta Invasion '08!!! http://prince.org/msg/2/278306
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I feel so ashame, my head is in the wrong books.
Never again, not I. | |
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that dude is so money. Welcome to the New World Odor and
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i think he has a jet....
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lilgish said: His last/surname is Dollar. THIS alone answers the question! Tupac "Makaveli" Shakur (RIP 1971-1996) & Michael Jackson (RIP 1958-2009)
2 men that had their lives taken away the moment they were speaking out AND rebelling against the dark side of the music industry once too often. | |
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Does anyone have anything concrete? I hear a lot of jokes, but no cited facts... | |
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HiinEnkelte said: that dude is so money.
"Money is not the root of all evil....it's the LACK of money that's the root of all evil!"(Rev. Ike) | |
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Any one who follows a pimp.....DESERVES 2 be pimped. The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
The TRUTH. | |
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ThreadBare said: Does anyone have anything concrete? I hear a lot of jokes, but no cited facts...
Concrete such as what? He's living EXTREMELY large - Way much larger than the people he "represents". Is that what God wanted? That's always been my issue with the church. They build these multi-million dollar churches while a lot of their congregation can barely make it to them by public transpo. I never understood why the preacher had to live so extravagant. The shit just doesn't make sense. Re-invest in the community - TRULY. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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The thread reminded me of this article.
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I aint got no problem with Crefo Dollar. Or Joel Osteen, T.D. Jakes, or any other prosperity preacher. They are only preaching about us being successful in all aspects of our lives.Now, we all know that success is defined differently for each of us. But the way I view many of these prosperity teachers is that, God (throw in who ever you believe here) wants us to be prosperous in our relationships, our health, and our finances. God's desire is that we excel. “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara | |
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JellyBean said: I aint got no problem with Crefo Dollar. Or Joel Osteen, T.D. Jakes, or any other prosperity preacher. They are only preaching about us being successful in all aspects of our lives.Now, we all know that success is defined differently for each of us. But the way I view many of these prosperity teachers is that, God (throw in who ever you believe here) wants us to be prosperous in our relationships, our health, and our finances. God's desire is that we excel.
I'm all for the "teach a person to fish" mindset BUT I also I know you have to still feed some the fish so they can even pay attention to the teaching. I'd like to hear more about their charities than the homes, cars and jets that they've be "blessed" to obtain. I think the issue that some have with prosperity preachers is that their wealth comes from the people they serve. This causes an ethical dilemma for many. Books, movies, conferences, etc....they are money makers as well has a vehicle for delivering a message. churches are business and are run like corporations. The CEO is a church is getting paid like a CEO at a corporation. Is that good? Is that bad? I see bigger churches but no new soup kitchens, homeless shelters, etc. | |
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Rhondab said: JellyBean said: I aint got no problem with Crefo Dollar. Or Joel Osteen, T.D. Jakes, or any other prosperity preacher. They are only preaching about us being successful in all aspects of our lives.Now, we all know that success is defined differently for each of us. But the way I view many of these prosperity teachers is that, God (throw in who ever you believe here) wants us to be prosperous in our relationships, our health, and our finances. God's desire is that we excel.
I'm all for the "teach a person to fish" mindset BUT I also I know you have to still feed some the fish so they can even pay attention to the teaching. I'd like to hear more about their charities than the homes, cars and jets that they've be "blessed" to obtain. I think the issue that some have with prosperity preachers is that their wealth comes from the people they serve. This causes an ethical dilemma for many. Books, movies, conferences, etc....they are money makers as well has a vehicle for delivering a message. churches are business and are run like corporations. The CEO is a church is getting paid like a CEO at a corporation. Is that good? Is that bad? I see bigger churches but no new soup kitchens, homeless shelters, etc. I have no problem with a pastor getting paid like a CEO if, he/she is leading a church with a large membership and if they are giving back to the community. I in the cases of Jakes and Dollar, I know during the Hurricane Katrina, Jakes and Dollar were sending hundreds of thousands of dollars to help the displaced families from New Orleans. In the Community… "Following Hurricane Katrina, Bishop Jakes and The Potter’s House partnered with the World Children’s Fund to successfully donate $250,000 worth of food, water, ice, and first aid. The church also initiated a program to help displaced families by serving as a collection and distribution center for financial contributions, non-perishable materials, and in-kind services. In December 2005 Jakes was asked to serve with the Rev. William H. Gray III as co-chair of the Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund’s Interfaith Coalition." http://www.demossnewspond...rofile.htm Also, as long as his books are legit, I have no problem with him making that kind of money. Nobody had a problem with Rev. Billy Graham making tons of money, why sweat these folks? It aint about the color of the preacher. Joyce Meyers, Paula White, and the Copeland family have come under federal heat. So far, Joyce Meyers has come up clean. And I do know that she does a lot of outreach work; homeless centers, food drives....and the same for Dollar and Jakes. “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara | |
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JellyBean said: I aint got no problem with Crefo Dollar. Or Joel Osteen, T.D. Jakes, or any other prosperity preacher. They are only preaching about us being successful in all aspects of our lives.Now, we all know that success is defined differently for each of us. But the way I view many of these prosperity teachers is that, God (throw in who ever you believe here) wants us to be prosperous in our relationships, our health, and our finances. God's desire is that we excel.
Sorry, but I truly doubt God wanted his messengers of the gospel to misuse funds and become more so pimps than preachers. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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JellyBean said: Rhondab said: I'm all for the "teach a person to fish" mindset BUT I also I know you have to still feed some the fish so they can even pay attention to the teaching. I'd like to hear more about their charities than the homes, cars and jets that they've be "blessed" to obtain. I think the issue that some have with prosperity preachers is that their wealth comes from the people they serve. This causes an ethical dilemma for many. Books, movies, conferences, etc....they are money makers as well has a vehicle for delivering a message. churches are business and are run like corporations. The CEO is a church is getting paid like a CEO at a corporation. Is that good? Is that bad? I see bigger churches but no new soup kitchens, homeless shelters, etc. I have no problem with a pastor getting paid like a CEO if, he/she is leading a church with a large membership and if they are giving back to the community. I in the cases of Jakes and Dollar, I know during the Hurricane Katrina, Jakes and Dollar were sending hundreds of thousands of dollars to help the displaced families from New Orleans. In the Community… "Following Hurricane Katrina, Bishop Jakes and The Potter’s House partnered with the World Children’s Fund to successfully donate $250,000 worth of food, water, ice, and first aid. The church also initiated a program to help displaced families by serving as a collection and distribution center for financial contributions, non-perishable materials, and in-kind services. In December 2005 Jakes was asked to serve with the Rev. William H. Gray III as co-chair of the Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund’s Interfaith Coalition." http://www.demossnewspond...rofile.htm Also, as long as his books are legit, I have no problem with him making that kind of money. Nobody had a problem with Rev. Billy Graham making tons of money, why sweat these folks? It aint about the color of the preacher. Joyce Meyers, Paula White, and the Copeland family have come under federal heat. So far, Joyce Meyers has come up clean. And I do know that she does a lot of outreach work; homeless centers, food drives....and the same for Dollar and Jakes. Yeah. Wanna bet they're not? nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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JellyBean said: Rhondab said: I'm all for the "teach a person to fish" mindset BUT I also I know you have to still feed some the fish so they can even pay attention to the teaching. I'd like to hear more about their charities than the homes, cars and jets that they've be "blessed" to obtain. I think the issue that some have with prosperity preachers is that their wealth comes from the people they serve. This causes an ethical dilemma for many. Books, movies, conferences, etc....they are money makers as well has a vehicle for delivering a message. churches are business and are run like corporations. The CEO is a church is getting paid like a CEO at a corporation. Is that good? Is that bad? I see bigger churches but no new soup kitchens, homeless shelters, etc. I have no problem with a pastor getting paid like a CEO if, he/she is leading a church with a large membership and if they are giving back to the community. I in the cases of Jakes and Dollar, I know during the Hurricane Katrina, Jakes and Dollar were sending hundreds of thousands of dollars to help the displaced families from New Orleans. In the Community… "Following Hurricane Katrina, Bishop Jakes and The Potter’s House partnered with the World Children’s Fund to successfully donate $250,000 worth of food, water, ice, and first aid. The church also initiated a program to help displaced families by serving as a collection and distribution center for financial contributions, non-perishable materials, and in-kind services. In December 2005 Jakes was asked to serve with the Rev. William H. Gray III as co-chair of the Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund’s Interfaith Coalition." http://www.demossnewspond...rofile.htm Also, as long as his books are legit, I have no problem with him making that kind of money. Nobody had a problem with Rev. Billy Graham making tons of money, why sweat these folks? It aint about the color of the preacher. Joyce Meyers, Paula White, and the Copeland family have come under federal heat. So far, Joyce Meyers has come up clean. And I do know that she does a lot of outreach work; homeless centers, food drives....and the same for Dollar and Jakes. You may not have an issue but I do. | |
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ThreadBare said: Does anyone have anything concrete? I hear a lot of jokes, but no cited facts...
Not yet but the Senate's working on it! Look for it in '08, that much I'm sure of! | |
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Rhondab said: JellyBean said: I have no problem with a pastor getting paid like a CEO if, he/she is leading a church with a large membership and if they are giving back to the community. I in the cases of Jakes and Dollar, I know during the Hurricane Katrina, Jakes and Dollar were sending hundreds of thousands of dollars to help the displaced families from New Orleans. In the Community… "Following Hurricane Katrina, Bishop Jakes and The Potter’s House partnered with the World Children’s Fund to successfully donate $250,000 worth of food, water, ice, and first aid. The church also initiated a program to help displaced families by serving as a collection and distribution center for financial contributions, non-perishable materials, and in-kind services. In December 2005 Jakes was asked to serve with the Rev. William H. Gray III as co-chair of the Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund’s Interfaith Coalition." http://www.demossnewspond...rofile.htm Also, as long as his books are legit, I have no problem with him making that kind of money. Nobody had a problem with Rev. Billy Graham making tons of money, why sweat these folks? It aint about the color of the preacher. Joyce Meyers, Paula White, and the Copeland family have come under federal heat. So far, Joyce Meyers has come up clean. And I do know that she does a lot of outreach work; homeless centers, food drives....and the same for Dollar and Jakes. You may not have an issue but I do. Trust me, I am sure that you are not the only one. But as long as I see, people like Jakes, Dollar, Meyers, and Osteen, just to name a few, helping out out the poorest of the poor, I can't really worry about what folks might think of them. They (Jakes & Dollar) all have to answer to a higher calling. Right now, I see the positive things that they are doing for their sheep “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara | |
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JellyBean said: Rhondab said: You may not have an issue but I do. Trust me, I am sure that you are not the only one. But as long as I see, people like Jakes, Dollar, Meyers, and Osteen, just to name a few, helping out out the poorest of the poor, I can't really worry about what folks might think of them. They (Jakes & Dollar) all have to answer to a higher calling. Right now, I see the positive things that they are doing for their sheep with dollar...what other things have you seen him do beyond the Katrina situation? Osteen's ministry bothers me for other reasons but that's another topic. | |
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Before this investigation, I never heard of the guy; and my knowledge on tv ministries is limited at best. I prefer sitting in an actual church than watching it on tv. I'm sorry, but the name alone screams pimp, and I wouldn't be able to take him seriously. If these leaders are doing what they are supposed to, then more power to them. People need to read the Bible for themselves, and learn discernment. I don't have any real problem with tv ministries, just never been drawn to them.
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Rhondab said: i think he has a jet....
they build big churches but never big soup kitchens...I wonder why Oh...that would be too much like what Jesus said to do...my bad according to ED, when Jesus said that which you have done for the least of my brothers so you have done to me, was just a metaphor and parable. he really didn't mean that. it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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