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Shacking?...and Christian? I am meeting more and more people who are living together as a couple, having children, but are not married. Yet repeatedly they affirm that they are Christians. Yes, they say they believe the whole Bible is God's Word.
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Hello Melody. Stymie here. | |
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I would say they are much less enlightened than you and probably cursed. This is untoward! This is not toward! |
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Lothan said: Hello Melody. Stymie here.
My honest answer is that they are not any different from anyone else proclaiming to be Christian and love God and yet continues to sin. That's pretty much everybody. And I believe that God could forgive those people as He looks at the whole person. I do agree Ivy. I would also say that "shackin'" and "forincation" doesn't get the same time in the pulpit as homosexuality and abortions. This could be the reason for the justification of living together. I don't know. On some level we all have, at some time, try to justify why what we're doing isn't against the Word. Revelation comes....then wisdom....then change...hopefully. | |
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Rhondab said: Lothan said: Hello Melody. Stymie here.
My honest answer is that they are not any different from anyone else proclaiming to be Christian and love God and yet continues to sin. That's pretty much everybody. And I believe that God could forgive those people as He looks at the whole person. I do agree Ivy. I would also say that "shackin'" and "forincation" doesn't get the same time in the pulpit as homosexuality and abortions. This could be the reason for the justification of living together. I don't know. On some level we all have, at some time, try to justify why what we're doing isn't against the Word. Revelation comes....then wisdom....then change...hopefully. | |
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Lothan said: Rhondab said: I do agree Ivy. I would also say that "shackin'" and "forincation" doesn't get the same time in the pulpit as homosexuality and abortions. This could be the reason for the justification of living together. I don't know. On some level we all have, at some time, try to justify why what we're doing isn't against the Word. Revelation comes....then wisdom....then change...hopefully.  | |
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Lothan said: Hello Melody. Stymie here.
My honest answer is that they are not any different from anyone else proclaiming to be Christian and love God and yet continues to sin. That's pretty much everybody. And I believe that God could forgive those people as He looks at the whole person.  |
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Rhondab said: Lothan said: I agree with everything you've said.
But everytime I think of things I've tried to justify, it's like God Himself is saying "don't even think about it". It even gets easier to believe there is not a God when I want to do what I want to do sometimes. | |
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Lothan said: Rhondab said:
But everytime I think of things I've tried to justify, it's like God Himself is saying "don't even think about it". It even gets easier to believe there is not a God when I want to do what I want to do sometimes.
God is funny that way.....Like....excuse you sista...you know betta... I do feel ya. | |
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how is it anyone else's business?
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SensualMelody said: I am meeting more and more people who are living together as a couple, having children, but are not married. Yet repeatedly they affirm that they are Christians. Yes, they say they believe the whole Bible is God's Word.
Yes, they wanna go to heaven. It doesn't seem to add up, I mean logically. What say you of this paradox? I think it's because immorality in all its facets has not been expounded upon as wrong from the Bible's view as much as some, certain sins. Religious leaders are quite concerned to keep members in their churches and as life has become more permissive, some of those leaders have become more lenient regarding the Bible's standards. Can you imagine what would happen in your random church if the minister began preaching and enforcing the Bible's standards regarding immorality besides homosexuality? 
And remember, "immorality" encompasses much more than simply sexual sins. It's dishonesty, lying, stealing, cheating, drunkenness, etc. Yes, ultimately our relationship with God is between Him and us. But He lovingly provided the Bible so we could have some guidelines as to what He expects of us. If we deliberately go against what we have learned from the Bible to be wrong -- not judging what others do; what WE'RE doing -- how can we believe that God approves of us? But . . . many religious leaders do not teach that kind of accountability to church members. So, they feel comfortable calling themselves Christians. 
That's what I think, anyway. | |
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cborgman said: how is it anyone else's business?
it's between them and their god. period. As far as judgement yes of course you are right however in the scriptures we are encouraged to think of how aour actions may affect the concience of others or how we act and the way that reflects on "our" god. So it is a legitimate question to ask, what we then do with that is where i agree with your statement. If we then judge we are wrong, if we allow them their concience and move on...even better | |
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Rhondab said: Lothan said: I agree with everything you've said.
get a room you guys! "this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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Rhondab said: Lothan said: Hello Melody. Stymie here.
My honest answer is that they are not any different from anyone else proclaiming to be Christian and love God and yet continues to sin. That's pretty much everybody. And I believe that God could forgive those people as He looks at the whole person. I do agree Ivy. I would also say that "shackin'" and "forincation" doesn't get the same time in the pulpit as homosexuality and abortions. This could be the reason for the justification of living together. I don't know. On some level we all have, at some time, try to justify why what we're doing isn't against the Word. Revelation comes....then wisdom....then change...hopefully. lets not forget there are enlightened couples out there not getting married in protest of the current legal system. it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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ehuffnsd said: Rhondab said: I do agree Ivy. I would also say that "shackin'" and "forincation" doesn't get the same time in the pulpit as homosexuality and abortions. This could be the reason for the justification of living together. I don't know. On some level we all have, at some time, try to justify why what we're doing isn't against the Word. Revelation comes....then wisdom....then change...hopefully. lets not forget there are enlightened couples out there not getting married in protest of the current legal system.  | |
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ehuffnsd said: Rhondab said: I do agree Ivy. I would also say that "shackin'" and "forincation" doesn't get the same time in the pulpit as homosexuality and abortions. This could be the reason for the justification of living together. I don't know. On some level we all have, at some time, try to justify why what we're doing isn't against the Word. Revelation comes....then wisdom....then change...hopefully. lets not forget there are enlightened couples out there not getting married in protest of the current legal system. Interesting. You can protest whatever you want...you still shackin'... | |
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cborgman said: how is it anyone else's business?
it's between them and their god. period. 
That's not the point...
We KNOWWWWW its their business.... | |
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Rhondab said: ehuffnsd said: lets not forget there are enlightened couples out there not getting married in protest of the current legal system. Interesting. You can protest whatever you want...you still shackin'... does XxAxX know you have these antifeminist views. it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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ehuffnsd said: Rhondab said: Interesting. You can protest whatever you want...you still shackin'... does XxAxX know you have these antifeminist views. how is this antifeminist?
You can do whatever you want....it is what it is.... | |
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Rhondab said: ehuffnsd said: does XxAxX know you have these antifeminist views. how is this antifeminist?
You can do whatever you want....it is what it is.... i hoping to envoke XxAxX on this thread. so i have to throw out the word Feminist to bring her. it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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ehuffnsd said: Rhondab said: how is this antifeminist?
You can do whatever you want....it is what it is.... i hoping to envoke XxAxX on this thread. so i have to throw out the word Feminist to bring her.
I'm going to create a "Whites getting a black pass in the hood" thread just for you... | |
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If biblical morality in all its fullnes is preached, churches are largely empty. People "need" religion in their life to feel better, not to feel worse.
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Rhondab said: ehuffnsd said: i hoping to envoke XxAxX on this thread. so i have to throw out the word Feminist to bring her.
I'm going to create a "Whites getting a black pass in the hood" thread just for you... where is GP when i need him/her, and as for you it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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m3taverse said: If biblical morality in all its fullnes is preached, churches are largely empty. People "need" religion in their life to feel better, not to feel worse.
The majority will never adjust their lifestyle to fit religion, they need religion to fit their lifestyle. Most religions willingly cater to this mechanism, for a variety of reasons. For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories. (2 Timothy 4:3, 4) | |
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Uhope said: m3taverse said: If biblical morality in all its fullnes is preached, churches are largely empty. People "need" religion in their life to feel better, not to feel worse.
The majority will never adjust their lifestyle to fit religion, they need religion to fit their lifestyle. Most religions willingly cater to this mechanism, for a variety of reasons. For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories. (2 Timothy 4:3, 4) and there you have it.... | |
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Uhope said: m3taverse said: If biblical morality in all its fullnes is preached, churches are largely empty. People "need" religion in their life to feel better, not to feel worse.
The majority will never adjust their lifestyle to fit religion, they need religion to fit their lifestyle. Most religions willingly cater to this mechanism, for a variety of reasons. For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories. (2 Timothy 4:3, 4) Of course this was already true at the time of writing. And, as I see it, will always be true. The morality laid out in the Bible is not innate to the Human race. "this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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m3taverse said: Uhope said: Of course this was already true at the time of writing. And, as I see it, will always be true. The morality laid out in the Bible is not innate to the Human race. You are correct.
Which is why it's a struggle to measure up to what God expects of us. The Bible says that the inclination of man is bad from his youth up. But it's not impossible to try. And He does expect us to do our best and not excuse our transgressions | |
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Uhope said:[quote] m3taverse said: And He does expect us to do our best and not excuse our transgressions | |
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OH MY GOD. I think I'm addicted to this jankity forum. | |
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mdiver said: cborgman said: how is it anyone else's business?
it's between them and their god. period. As far as judgement yes of course you are right however in the scriptures we are encouraged to think of how aour actions may affect the concience of others or how we act and the way that reflects on "our" god. So it is a legitimate question to ask, what we then do with that is where i agree with your statement. If we then judge we are wrong, if we allow them their concience and move on...even better see, i don't even think the question is even valid to ask. it's between them and their god and is no one else's business. they arent hurting anyone. leave 'em be. "passing strange"... experience the real
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