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Can I still be a Jehovah's Witness? I am a politically left-leaning Socialist, I support gay marriage, I believe in blood transfusions, I don't care about the pagan association with Christian holidays, I believe MY interpretations of the Holy Bible are correct, and I am a Freemason.
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JDODSONandFlashpointe said: I am a politically left-leaning Socialist, I support gay marriage, I believe in blood transfusions, I don't care about the pagan association with Christian holidays, I believe MY interpretations of the Holy Bible are correct, and I am a Freemason.
Can I still be a Jehovah's Witness? That would be like asking green peace if you could be a part of their administration and drove a car with 455 cubic inch motor with dual 4 barrel carburators and no pollution control system. kind of obvious, you would not be contributing to the organizations cause. You might even sway some of the members liking your car to get one also. Also it would give the outside world cause to question the integrity of green peace, if you were allowed. The queston is baiting, and the answer should be obvious. | |
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rodman2 said: JDODSONandFlashpointe said: I am a politically left-leaning Socialist, I support gay marriage, I believe in blood transfusions, I don't care about the pagan association with Christian holidays, I believe MY interpretations of the Holy Bible are correct, and I am a Freemason.
Can I still be a Jehovah's Witness? That would be like asking green peace if you could be a part of their administration and drove a car with 455 cubic inch motor with dual 4 barrel carburators and no pollution control system. kind of obvious, you would not be contributing to the organizations cause. You might even sway some of the members liking your car to get one also. Also it would give the outside world cause to question the integrity of green peace, if you were allowed. The queston is baiting, and the answer should be obvious. Well, you might like to know that I hold the New World Translation as my personal favorite copy of the Bible and I carry it with me always. It's too bad that they wouldn't welcome me. Maybe they would learn something, and, maybe I could learn a little. It's unfortunate though, that a group of people would disallow another group of people or individual based on their personal opinions. I guess that's their idea of "freedom" in Christ? | |
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JDODSONandFlashpointe said: rodman2 said: That would be like asking green peace if you could be a part of their administration and drove a car with 455 cubic inch motor with dual 4 barrel carburators and no pollution control system. kind of obvious, you would not be contributing to the organizations cause. You might even sway some of the members liking your car to get one also. Also it would give the outside world cause to question the integrity of green peace, if you were allowed. The queston is baiting, and the answer should be obvious. Well, you might like to know that I hold the New World Translation as my personal favorite copy of the Bible and I carry it with me always. It's too bad that they wouldn't welcome me. Maybe they would learn something, and, maybe I could learn a little. It's unfortunate though, that a group of people would disallow another group of people or individual based on their personal opinions. I guess that's their idea of "freedom" in Christ? Ah so the bait, you are welcome to come and learn. That's not what you asked is it? You said if you all those things could you become a JW. well not if remained with those same ideologies right. but if you changed and conformed to the JW beliefs , then yes, of course. And if you have read your dear book it would tell you that. I hold it dear also. | |
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rodman2 said: JDODSONandFlashpointe said: Well, you might like to know that I hold the New World Translation as my personal favorite copy of the Bible and I carry it with me always. It's too bad that they wouldn't welcome me. Maybe they would learn something, and, maybe I could learn a little. It's unfortunate though, that a group of people would disallow another group of people or individual based on their personal opinions. I guess that's their idea of "freedom" in Christ? Ah so the bait, you are welcome to come and learn. That's not what you asked is it? You said if you all those things could you become a JW. well not if remained with those same ideologies right. but if you changed and conformed to the JW beliefs , then yes, of course. And if you have read your dear book it would tell you that. I hold it dear also. specifically, which beliefs would preclude him from becoming a JW? are these things you'd consider things he just hadn't studied enough? | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: rodman2 said: Ah so the bait, you are welcome to come and learn. That's not what you asked is it? You said if you all those things could you become a JW. well not if remained with those same ideologies right. but if you changed and conformed to the JW beliefs , then yes, of course. And if you have read your dear book it would tell you that. I hold it dear also. specifically, which beliefs would preclude him from becoming a JW? are these things you'd consider things he just hadn't studied enough? Well you already know we do not get involved with politics right, and our stance on homosexuality, blood transfusions, pagan orinated celebrations, and other followings is clear also I believe, from past posts. I believe I answered incorrectly, I should have said yes once you have met the requirements. but instead didn't think about the answer long enough, there fore fed the thread with doubts, I blew it I think. not the first time my mouth run ahead of my brain. | |
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rodman2 said: IrresistibleB1tch said: specifically, which beliefs would preclude him from becoming a JW? are these things you'd consider things he just hadn't studied enough? Well you already know we do not get involved with politics right, and our stance on homosexuality, blood transfusions, pagan orinated celebrations, and other followings is clear also I believe, from past posts. I believe I answered incorrectly, I should have said yes once you have met the requirements. but instead didn't think about the answer long enough, there fore fed the thread with doubts, I blew it I think. not the first time my mouth run ahead of my brain. that's ok - we all do that every once in a while. | |
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Do what I do.
Ignore this post.
I don't need the encouragement. "To criticize is to choose the laziest form of expression." -some deep dude | |
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Illustrator said: Do what I do.
Just go ahead and consider yourself one. It gives me an excuse to go out & knock on people's doors. I remember when I was a teenager we used to ring door bells then sit in the bush a giggle when the householder would come to no one. The last time I ever did that was on this old coot, he was mean man, anyway it worked and someone dared me to do it again, as I hit the doorbell, the door popped open and his hand grabbed my throat and with his other he slugged me in the chest, it took the breath out me and hurt for days after. I never played that silly game agian. | |
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rodman2 said: Illustrator said: Do what I do.
Just go ahead and consider yourself one. It gives me an excuse to go out & knock on people's doors. I remember when I was a teenager we used to ring door bells then sit in the bush a giggle when the householder would come to no one. The last time I ever did that was on this old coot, he was mean man, anyway it worked and someone dared me to do it again, as I hit the doorbell, the door popped open and his hand grabbed my throat and with his other he slugged me in the chest, it took the breath out me and hurt for days after. I never played that silly game agian. Yeah, but did you at least get the old coot to accept Jesus Christ as his own personal savior? // [Edited 6/21/07 16:31pm] Ignore this post.
I don't need the encouragement. "To criticize is to choose the laziest form of expression." -some deep dude | |
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Illustrator said: rodman2 said: I remember when I was a teenager we used to ring door bells then sit in the bush a giggle when the householder would come to no one. The last time I ever did that was on this old coot, he was mean man, anyway it worked and someone dared me to do it again, as I hit the doorbell, the door popped open and his hand grabbed my throat and with his other he slugged me in the chest, it took the breath out me and hurt for days after. I never played that silly game agian. Yeah, but did you at least get the old coot to accept Jesus Christ as his own personal savior? // [Edited 6/21/07 16:31pm] Oh thought you were kidding, so I went to lighter side. Carry on, I won't say anymore.  | |
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rodman2 said: Illustrator said: Yeah, but did you at least get the old coot to accept Jesus Christ as his own personal savior? // [Edited 6/21/07 16:31pm] Oh thought you were kidding, so I went to lighter side. Carry on, I won't say anymore. he is kidding. it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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ehuffnsd said: rodman2 said: Oh thought you were kidding, so I went to lighter side. Carry on, I won't say anymore. he is kidding. I realize that, I winked. Most of his posts are. 
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If Prince is a Witness, anybody can be one. | |
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Lothan said: If Prince is a Witness, anybody can be one.
He's only one because he gives a lot of $$$$$. Anyone else would be DF'd. | |
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tmo1965 said: Lothan said: If Prince is a Witness, anybody can be one.
He's only one because he gives a lot of $$$$$. Anyone else would be DF'd. But folks will call you and I out on what they perceive us to be doing wrong in a heartbeat. | |
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Lothan said: If Prince is a Witness, anybody can be one.
I don't know why that took me by surprise... | |
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Genesia said: Lothan said: If Prince is a Witness, anybody can be one.
I don't know why that took me by surprise...  | |
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tmo1965 said: Lothan said: If Prince is a Witness, anybody can be one.
He's only one because he gives a lot of $$$$$. Anyone else would be DF'd. Just curious how would you know he gives alot of $$$$$, I realize he makes a lot $$$$$, doesn't mean he gives lots. Did you read that some where? | |
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rodman2 said: tmo1965 said: He's only one because he gives a lot of $$$$$. Anyone else would be DF'd. Just curious how would you know he gives alot of $$$$$, I realize he makes a lot $$$$$, doesn't mean he gives lots. Did you read that some where? Don't you people tithe? No? | |
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rodman2 said: JDODSONandFlashpointe said: I am a politically left-leaning Socialist, I support gay marriage, I believe in blood transfusions, I don't care about the pagan association with Christian holidays, I believe MY interpretations of the Holy Bible are correct, and I am a Freemason.
Can I still be a Jehovah's Witness? That would be like asking green peace if you could be a part of their administration and drove a car with 455 cubic inch motor with dual 4 barrel carburators and no pollution control system. kind of obvious, you would not be contributing to the organizations cause. You might even sway some of the members liking your car to get one also. Also it would give the outside world cause to question the integrity of green peace, if you were allowed. The queston is baiting, and the answer should be obvious. Funny how you said "sway" as if it is a bad thing to encourage people to think for themselves | |
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JDODSONandFlashpointe said: I am a politically left-leaning Socialist, I support gay marriage, I believe in blood transfusions, I don't care about the pagan association with Christian holidays, I believe MY interpretations of the Holy Bible are correct, and I am a Freemason.
Can I still be a Jehovah's Witness? Hey man, just don't tell them you believe all this. Your personal life is yours, not theirs | |
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rodman2 said: ehuffnsd said: he is kidding. I realize that, I winked. Most of his posts are.
did you get my orgnote this afternoon? yes thank you. it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
Dalai Lama | |
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Janfriend said: rodman2 said: Just curious how would you know he gives alot of $$$$$, I realize he makes a lot $$$$$, doesn't mean he gives lots. Did you read that some where? Don't you people tithe? No? Oh no, tithing was the old law. no everyone just does what they feel, and it's not public knowledge. Thats why I was wondering that. | |
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Janfriend said: rodman2 said: That would be like asking green peace if you could be a part of their administration and drove a car with 455 cubic inch motor with dual 4 barrel carburators and no pollution control system. kind of obvious, you would not be contributing to the organizations cause. You might even sway some of the members liking your car to get one also. Also it would give the outside world cause to question the integrity of green peace, if you were allowed. The queston is baiting, and the answer should be obvious. Funny how you said "sway" as if it is a bad thing to encourage people to think for themselves Yes well what I said was pretty stupid for an answer, the answer was simply ,Yes! But the gist of the long stupid answer was he would have to change. I couldn't become a baptised JW till I changed my life style drastically, I know I still motor mouth too much before thinking. I have to work on that for sure. I have only been a JW for 8 months, I have much to learn. The sway remark would be like for instance if I went to bar just to visit and not drink, and say did it regularly, I could under certain curcumstances fall in to drink. I like to think that I am strong enough not to, but why test myself. But you are right people can think for themselves, I do believe some people, not all, can be swayed to do things to be part of the group or accepted. | |
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Just a question...why would you WANT to join a group whose basic beliefs are so opposed to your own???
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rodman2 said: tmo1965 said: He's only one because he gives a lot of $$$$$. Anyone else would be DF'd. Just curious how would you know he gives alot of $$$$$, I realize he makes a lot $$$$$, doesn't mean he gives lots. Did you read that some where? I have no idea how much $$$$ Prince gives to the WTS. Based upon what I've heard you guys say on this and other Prince sites, it seems that if he was an average Joe in the WTS, and went to sporting events, rock concerts, always in the company of women he is not married to, he would be DF'd in no seconds flat. So why else would they allow him to remain a JW if not for large donations? | |
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tmo1965 said: rodman2 said: Just curious how would you know he gives alot of $$$$$, I realize he makes a lot $$$$$, doesn't mean he gives lots. Did you read that some where? I have no idea how much $$$$ Prince gives to the WTS. Based upon what I've heard you guys say on this and other Prince sites, it seems that if he was an average Joe in the WTS, and went to sporting events, rock concerts, always in the company of women he is not married to, he would be DF'd in no seconds flat. So why else would they allow him to remain a JW if not for large donations? In my understanding of JW belief the above mentioned facts would not be DF offences. You would need to be guilty of loose conduct or uncleanness. What he is doing may not be considered wise but I would not think such would be of a level to warrant being DF'd. | |
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tmo1965 said: rodman2 said: Just curious how would you know he gives alot of $$$$$, I realize he makes a lot $$$$$, doesn't mean he gives lots. Did you read that some where? I have no idea how much $$$$ Prince gives to the WTS. Based upon what I've heard you guys say on this and other Prince sites, it seems that if he was an average Joe in the WTS, and went to sporting events, rock concerts, always in the company of women he is not married to, he would be DF'd in no seconds flat. So why else would they allow him to remain a JW if not for large donations? You are assuming much. I don't know the guy but if he is caught doing something against God's rules, immorality you are suggesting he will be gone. We don't need his money. It doesn't cost much to insure a building , keep it in lighting and heat, and pay the taxes. Each congregation looks after themselves, unless of course maybe in third world countries, head quarters could be helping them. but my Congregation is self sufficent. If we have a surplus we have a hands up yay or nay agreement on sending it to headquarters. There are no salaries to pay. Like I said in the other post donations are private, there is no tithing. | |
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