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Dutch show has kidney donation contest A Dutch reality show that claims to be trying to draw attention to a shortage of organ donors said Tuesday it would go ahead with a program in which a terminally ill woman will choose a contestant to receive one of her kidneys.
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this seems a bit over the top. 'entertainment' is not watching a dying person compete to win a life-saving organ. | |
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XxAxX said: this seems a bit over the top. 'entertainment' is not watching a dying person compete to win a life-saving organ.
Exactly! The world is out of control. IMHO - everyone should donate their organs. Afterall, you are dead and in no need of them. I'm sure if there really is a heaven you would be forgiven and hopefully praised for giving the gift of life! | |
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I dunno - I think it's kinda a cool concept.
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Mach said: A Dutch reality show that claims to be trying to draw attention to a shortage of organ donors said Tuesday it would go ahead with a program in which a terminally ill woman will choose a contestant to receive one of her kidneys.
Letting sick people compete on TV for a kidney of a dying person smacks of profiteering on the sick and dying. Knowing the producer Endemol (I've negotiated deals with them), I am sure they are in this solely for the money. They see 'fantastic reality drama'= BIG $$$. The broadcaster BNN may have a serious interest in adressing this issue, but is definitly also looking for high ratings. "We know that this program is super controversial and some people will think it's tasteless, but we think the reality is even more shocking and tasteless: waiting for an organ is just like playing the lottery," Laurens Drillich, chairman of the BNN network, said in a statement.
When you deplore the reality don't replicate it, but give a better example. Viewers will be able to vote for the candidate they feel is most deserving via SMS text message, but "Lisa will determine who the happy one is," BNN said in a statement.
Saly could not say how much it will cost to send an SMS, but most TV programs charge around $1.35. Cha ching! [Edited 5/29/07 11:31am] You are not my "friend" because you threaten my security. | |
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MuaPetahl said: I dunno - I think it's kinda a cool concept.
Personally, I think it is sick to have people competing. Imagine how the people who lose would feel.If this was done as a "documentary" instead of a "contest" the views on it would certainly be different. I hope the donor "Lisa" gets to live to see something positive come from her illness. I'm also certain that both the contestants (who are in need) get their message out there that more people need to be donors. Even if they do not get chosen to be a recipient in this show, perhaps a viewer will feel touched by their plight and come forward. | |
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Lothan said: MuaPetahl said: I dunno - I think it's kinda a cool concept.
Personally, I think it is sick to have people competing. Imagine how the people who lose would feel.If this was done as a "documentary" instead of a "contest" the views on it would certainly be different. I hope the donor "Lisa" gets to live to see something positive come from her illness. I'm also certain that both the contestants (who are in need) get their message out there that more people need to be donors. Even if they do not get chosen to be a recipient in this show, perhaps a viewer will feel touched by their plight and come forward. Just curious, what exactly is it that you think they would be losing?? They may not win the contest, but they certainly aren't losing anything. If you took the time to read what I actually wrote, I clearly stated that I feel the contest brings awareness to something of great importance. It is quite likey that the audience will consider signing organ donor cards AND get screened for the database to be a living donor. ~When you understand why you dismiss all other gods, then you will understand why I dismiss yours~ | |
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ugh...
"passing strange"... experience the real
http://www.youtube.com/wa...NFbc7gLzQE | |
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MuaPetahl said: Lothan said: Personally, I think it is sick to have people competing. Imagine how the people who lose would feel.
Just curious, what exactly is it that you think they would be losing?? They may not win the contest, but they certainly aren't losing anything. If you took the time to read what I actually wrote, I clearly stated that I feel the contest brings awareness to something of great importance. It is quite likey that the audience will consider signing organ donor cards AND get screened for the database to be a living donor. | |
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Lothan said: MuaPetahl said: Just curious, what exactly is it that you think they would be losing?? They may not win the contest, but they certainly aren't losing anything. If you took the time to read what I actually wrote, I clearly stated that I feel the contest brings awareness to something of great importance. It is quite likey that the audience will consider signing organ donor cards AND get screened for the database to be a living donor. You don't agree that people should be more aware of organ donation? ~When you understand why you dismiss all other gods, then you will understand why I dismiss yours~ | |
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MuaPetahl said: Lothan said: Don't be insulting, I did read what you wrote. I just don't agree with you.
You don't agree that people should be more aware of organ donation? | |
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BNN is a public channel, it is not a commercial enterprise. Besides, I doubt they will get wealthy from the amount of SMSes they will receive.
"this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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Bloody ridicules program, donating and transplantation is a serious topic it shouldn’t be made into a game show. | |
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m3taverse said: BNN is a public channel, it is not a commercial enterprise. Besides, I doubt they will get wealthy from the amount of SMSes they will receive.
Secondly, this may have been mentioned in the article but i didn't read it, the founder of BNN was a young guy who died 5 years ago because he could not get a donor kidney.Thirdly, BNN is a channel for the 18-25 age bracket, it is not for old snouty people with civilized opinions. that makes a difference. in that case, this reality show could be cosntrued as a means of raising public awareness about the lack of donor organs [Edited 5/29/07 16:25pm] | |
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When an organ becomes available, doctor's make the decisions on who is it given to. There are a number of factors that they consider - essentially making anyone in need a game show contestant.
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m3taverse said: BNN is a public channel, it is not a commercial enterprise. Besides, I doubt they will get wealthy from the amount of SMSes they will receive.
Secondly, this may have been mentioned in the article but i didn't read it, the founder of BNN was a young guy who died 5 years ago because he could not get a donor kidney. Thirdly, BNN is a channel for the 18-25 age bracket, it is not for old snouty people with civilized opinions. It don't matter one iota whether it's a public channel or whether its founder didn't find a donor for himself. There are plenty of LESS disgracefull ways to draw attention to this issue other than letting sick people COMPETE over a kidney and letting viewers vote wheteher they live or die. If this show draws a lot of viewers, a sms text message at 1.35 euro ensures them and the COMMERCIAL producer Endemol BIG MONEY. That intent is very clearly present and it's a shame you ignore it. You are not my "friend" because you threaten my security. | |
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Abrazo said: m3taverse said: BNN is a public channel, it is not a commercial enterprise. Besides, I doubt they will get wealthy from the amount of SMSes they will receive.
Secondly, this may have been mentioned in the article but i didn't read it, the founder of BNN was a young guy who died 5 years ago because he could not get a donor kidney. Thirdly, BNN is a channel for the 18-25 age bracket, it is not for old snouty people with civilized opinions. It don't matter one iota whether it's a public channel or whether its founder didn't find a donor for himself. There are plenty of LESS disgracefull ways to draw attention to this issue other than letting sick people COMPETE over a kidney and letting viewers vote wheteher they live or die. If this show draws a lot of viewers, a sms text message at 1.35 euro ensures them and the COMMERCIAL producer Endemol BIG MONEY. That intent is very clearly present and it's a shame you ignore it. You're a bit over the top here aren't you. This is a one-off TV show, not a series. It's on a channel and time slot that will give it 600.000 viewers at the very most. Well maybe cos of the press they can get a bit more than that. This is not a big thing at all. I might feel different if this were an actual series and designed to reach a much broader audience. As it seems most people do not fill out their donor forms, even tho polls show most people would do it if they weren't so friggin lazy, I have no objection to a broadcaster focussed on the 18-25 age bracket making some noise about this. "this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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m3taverse said: Abrazo said: It don't matter one iota whether it's a public channel or whether its founder didn't find a donor for himself. There are plenty of LESS disgracefull ways to draw attention to this issue other than letting sick people COMPETE over a kidney and letting viewers vote wheteher they live or die. If this show draws a lot of viewers, a sms text message at 1.35 euro ensures them and the COMMERCIAL producer Endemol BIG MONEY. That intent is very clearly present and it's a shame you ignore it. I might feel different if this were an actual series and designed to reach a much broader audience. Yeah, cuz it's so much better to make money "only once" on "only 600.000 people tops". I don't know where you get that info from, but knowing its producer, it will be a series when it SELLS. I can see why you think I am over the top when you keep on ignoring that tiny little "detail". You are not my "friend" because you threaten my security. | |
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Abrazo said: m3taverse said: I might feel different if this were an actual series and designed to reach a much broader audience. Yeah, cuz it's so much better to make money "only once" on "only 600.000 people tops". I don't know where you get that info from, but knowing its producer, it will be a series when it SELLS. I can see why you think I am over the top when you keep on ignoring that tiny little "detail". I don't judge things for what they might become in the future. What it is right now is a bunch of kids telling a bunch of other kids to fill out their damn donor forms. There's nothing wrong with that. I definitely agree that their chosen method is confrontational to say the least. But then we both know that this is what works in the targetted age bracket. If this would become an institutionalized organ lottery, then yes, I might have another opinion. Even then I'm not sure. It's up to the people who need organs to say if this is acceptable or not. I'm not about to tell anyone how to live their lifes based on my narrow definition of what is right and wrong. Still, I have my VCR ready for when Bill O'Reilly picks up on this ... besides the prostitution, gay marriage, pedofile party, euthanasia and liberal drug laws, we can now add this to our Dutch resume! [Edited 5/30/07 15:31pm] "this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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"TV kidney competition was a hoax"
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m3taverse said: "TV kidney competition was a hoax"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/h...714063.stm What say you now, old people. I watched it live.....it was amazing! I'm here for the gangbang! | |
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