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BUSH hands over reigns to IRAQ war? To a War Czar general ? What is this story. | |
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Saw this..... fucking insane.... if you can't run the war as the COMMANDER IN CHIEF, you need to step down. | |
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yet another guy to throw under the bus. | |
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I know VERY little about this stuff but
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Well, this job has been described as "what Stephen Hadley would do if Stephen Hadley had the time".
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i would have thought all the bush haters would be happy he would be less involved in Iraq... just shows how deep and irrational the hate is. | |
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SlamGlam said: i would have thought all the bush haters would be happy he would be less involved in Iraq... just shows how deep and irrational the hate is.
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SlamGlam said: i would have thought all the bush haters would be happy he would be less involved in Iraq... just shows how deep and irrational the hate is.
So, by being "less involved in Iraq", it seems Bush is minimizing his constitutional duties as Commander-in-Chief. It's just another example of his refusal to take responsibility. I can't see why anyone would be happy about that. Second Funkiest White Man in America It sure is nice having adults running our government now |
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RodeoSchro said: it seems Bush is minimizing his constitutional duties as Commander-in-Chief. It's just another example of his refusal to take responsibility.
it is the presidents power to delegate as he sees fit, i KNEW someone would try to do make that silly point, when there is no such point to be made. granted i do not think he should have done it but it is constitutional. | |
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SlamGlam said: i would have thought all the bush haters would be happy he would be less involved in Iraq... just shows how deep and irrational the hate is.
well, then you clearly don't understand any of our position. as we have pointed out many times over, it isn't that we oppose the war because we hate bush. we oppose the war because scores of innocent people are dying, because billions of dollars in our money is being spent, because american soldiers are dying, because the corporations are theiving billions off of the american and iraqi public, because we have no right nor need to have done what we did, because it's the worst foreign policy disaster in american history, because it's re-opening old cold war wounds, and so on. anyone that ignores all of this and says we just really hate bush is a fool. [Edited 5/16/07 8:03am] "passing strange"... experience the real
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SlamGlam said: RodeoSchro said: it seems Bush is minimizing his constitutional duties as Commander-in-Chief. It's just another example of his refusal to take responsibility.
it is the presidents power to delegate as he sees fit, i KNEW someone would try to do make that silly point, when there is no such point to be made. granted i do not think he should have done it but it is constitutional. I didn't say he did anything unconstitutional; I said he minimized his constitutional duties. Which he did. By definition, "delegating" means "transfering power and responsibility to another". Look it up in a diction...oh, right. Second Funkiest White Man in America It sure is nice having adults running our government now |
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cborgman said: SlamGlam said: i would have thought all the bush haters would be happy he would be less involved in Iraq... just shows how deep and irrational the hate is.
well, then you clearly don't understand any of our position. as we have pointed out many times over, it isn't that we oppose the war because we hate bush. we oppose the war because scores of innocent people are dying, because billions of dollars in our money is being spent, because american soldiers are dying, because the corporations are theiving billions off of the american and iraqi public, because we have no right nor need to have done what we did, because it's the worst foreign policy disaster in american history, because it's re-opening old cold war wounds, and so on. anyone that ignores all of this and says we just really hate bush is a fool. [Edited 5/16/07 8:03am] it's all way to nuanced for some. so much easier to say we "hate Bush"  | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: cborgman said: well, then you clearly don't understand any of our position. as we have pointed out many times over, it isn't that we oppose the war because we hate bush. we oppose the war because scores of innocent people are dying, because billions of dollars in our money is being spent, because american soldiers are dying, because the corporations are theiving billions off of the american and iraqi public, because we have no right nor need to have done what we did, because it's the worst foreign policy disaster in american history, because it's re-opening old cold war wounds, and so on. anyone that ignores all of this and says we just really hate bush is a fool. [Edited 5/16/07 8:03am] it's all way to nuanced for some. so much easier to say we "hate Bush" i suppose one should expect that kind of thing from people who don't exactly traffic in the truthful side of things. "passing strange"... experience the real
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cborgman said: IrresistibleB1tch said: it's all way to nuanced for some. so much easier to say we "hate Bush" i suppose one should expect that kind of thing from people who don't exactly traffic in the truthful side of things.  remember: if he believes it, it's not a lie.  | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: it's all way to nuanced for some. so much easier to say we "hate Bush"
I think Bush is a cool dude. I really do. I know people that know him and say he's a blast to hang around, and I am sure that's true. However, he's a lousy president. Second Funkiest White Man in America It sure is nice having adults running our government now |
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ConservativeThreadCreator said: Saw this..... fucking insane.... if you can't run the war as the COMMANDER IN CHIEF, you need to step down.
 it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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RodeoSchro said: IrresistibleB1tch said: it's all way to nuanced for some. so much easier to say we "hate Bush"
I think Bush is a cool dude. I really do. I know people that know him and say he's a blast to hang around, and I am sure that's true. However, he's a lousy president. i'm sure he's boatloads of fun, especially after a few beers.
what i don't understand is why there are still people willing to take positions in this administration when it's quite obvious that they are just there to be used as scapegoats down the road? | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: cborgman said: i suppose one should expect that kind of thing from people who don't exactly traffic in the truthful side of things. remember: if he believes it, it's not a lie. that is true. a lie is a form of deception. if you believe what you say is true there is not attempt at deception. | |
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SlamGlam said: IrresistibleB1tch said: remember: if he believes it, it's not a lie. that is true. a lie is a form of deception. if you believe what you say is true there is not attempt at deception. so what is a person who constantly puts out false information without knowing it is false? "passing strange"... experience the real
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cborgman said: so what is a person who constantly puts out false information without knowing it is false? what do you mean by "knowing" | |
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SlamGlam said: cborgman said: so what is a person who constantly puts out false information without knowing it is false? what do you mean by "knowing" 1 a (1) : to perceive directly : have direct cognition of (2) : to have understanding of (3) : to recognize the nature of : DISCERN b (1) : to recognize as being the same as something previously known (2) : to be acquainted or familiar with (3) : to have experience of "passing strange"... experience the real
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ahhhh... as i expected you do not KNOW.... | |
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SlamGlam said: ahhhh... as i expected you do not KNOW....
so, then please do tell me how the dictionary is completely wrong about the definition of "knowing", professor... "passing strange"... experience the real
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cborgman said: SlamGlam said: that is true. a lie is a form of deception. if you believe what you say is true there is not attempt at deception. so what is a person who constantly puts out false information without knowing it is false? Al Gore!  | |
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SlamGlam said: cborgman said: so what is a person who constantly puts out false information without knowing it is false? what do you mean by "knowing" Do you realize you're parsing the word "know" in the same way Bill Clinton parsed the word "is"? Second Funkiest White Man in America It sure is nice having adults running our government now |
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ConservativeThreadCreator said: cborgman said: so what is a person who constantly puts out false information without knowing it is false? Al Gore! At least you didn't call him a liar!  Second Funkiest White Man in America It sure is nice having adults running our government now |
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RodeoSchro said: ConservativeThreadCreator said: Al Gore! At least you didn't call him a liar! I don't think he's a liar. I think he's wrong, but not a liar! | |
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ConservativeThreadCreator said: cborgman said: so what is a person who constantly puts out false information without knowing it is false? Al Gore!
it's not true, but it's funny. "passing strange"... experience the real
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RodeoSchro said: SlamGlam said: what do you mean by "knowing" Do you realize you're parsing the word "know" in the same way Bill Clinton parsed the word "is"? yup. "passing strange"... experience the real
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cborgman said: SlamGlam said: ahhhh... as i expected you do not KNOW....
so, then please do tell me how the dictionary is completely wrong about the definition of "knowing", professor... there you go again making up crazy things that i never said or implied... granted all those definitions you posted are crap but like i often say "dictionaries are not good sources for definitions" now Socrates would have said "Knowledge" is a type of explainable true belief. or a Justified ture belief... but then there is the Gettier example so... but like i said you do not KNOW what the word means and if you would just admit it we might be able to move on. | |
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