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JDODSONandFlas
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Presbyterian Church publishes theory about 9/11

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Presbyterian Church publishes 9/11 conspiracy theory
Malaysia Sun
Tuesday 8th August, 2006



The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)'s publishing arm has released a book that says President Bush organized New York's Sept. 11 attacks.

The decision by the 160-year-old Westminster John Knox Press, the trade and academic publishing imprint of the Presbyterian Publishing Corp., to attribute the attacks on the World Trade Center brings into the U.S. religious mainstream a conspiracy theory long held by the world's jihadists.

In 'Christian Faith and the Truth behind 9/11: A Call to Reflection and Action,' author David Ray Griffin calls the United States the world's 'chief embodiment of demonic power, says he initially scoffed at 9/11 conspiracy theories.

But after investigating he concluded that the Twin Towers were brought down by controlled demolition, military personnel were given stand-down orders not to intercept hijacked flights and the 9/11 Commission, ostensibly created to uncover the truth behind the events of 9/11, 'simply ignored evidence' that the administration was involved in the attacks.

Griffin further asserts that such events such as that of 9/11 are part of a long history of 'false-flag attacks,' attacks orchestrated by governments against their own people to garner popular support for military action.

Griffin is a professor at California's Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Graduate University, and a codirector of the Center for Process Studies.

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Reply #1 posted 02/28/07 1:59pm

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eek the frozen chosen????

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Reply #2 posted 02/28/07 4:13pm

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JDODSONandFlashpointe said:

The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)'s publishing arm has released a book that says President Bush organized New York's Sept. 11 attacks.

Maybe you should put that in the thread title.

Griffin further asserts that such events such as that of 9/11 are part of a long history of 'false-flag attacks,' attacks orchestrated by governments against their own people to garner popular support for military action.


Pearl Harbor.

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Reply #3 posted 02/28/07 8:03pm

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i wish i could say what i think about anyone that believes that garbage...but i have been asked to be nicer... so ...

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Reply #4 posted 02/28/07 8:32pm

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This theory has shown up in more than one place... it's so horrifying to even begin to believe it, so if there is one bit of truth in there, the horror is what's keeping it hidden.

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SlamGlam said:

i wish i could say what i think about anyone that believes that garbage...but i have been asked to be nicer... so ...


So let's see: that's garbage, but Bush lying about Iraq and Iran isn't?

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Reply #6 posted 03/01/07 2:56am

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This theory has shown up in more than one place... it's so horrifying to even begin to believe it, so if there is one bit of truth in there, the horror is what's keeping it hidden.

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By all means, Bush knew by august 2001 that Al Qaeda was about to stage a big attack using airplanes and government buildings as targets and he did nothing.

That isnt a lie or "garbage". That's the truth.

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Reply #7 posted 03/01/07 5:59am

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BartVanHemelen said:


So let's see: that's garbage, but Bush lying about Iraq and Iran isn't?


provide evidence that supports either theory

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Reply #8 posted 03/01/07 6:07am

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This theory has shown up in more than one place... it's so horrifying to even begin to believe it, so if there is one bit of truth in there, the horror is what's keeping it hidden.

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Yeah,I've heard this theory for years.Conservatives like to dream up all kinds of crazy conspiracy theories about the Clintons,yet this one is far more damaging,imo.I'm not saying it's true,but it certainly makes you wonder.

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Yeah,I've heard this theory for years.Conservatives like to dream up all kinds of crazy conspiracy theories about the Clintons, .



the difference is there are people that knew them that support some of the claims and there are legal documents that do so as well. not that all of it could be true but some of them do at least have something to support them.

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Reply #10 posted 03/01/07 6:14am

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SoulAlive said:



Yeah,I've heard this theory for years.Conservatives like to dream up all kinds of crazy conspiracy theories about the Clintons, .



the difference is there are people that knew them that support some of the claims and there are legal documents that do so as well. not that all of it could be true but some of them do at least have something to support them.


That's irrelevent anyway.The big story is this latest theory.It sounds far more damaging than anything Clinton was accused of.

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Reply #11 posted 03/01/07 6:16am

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SoulAlive said:



That's irrelevent anyway.The big story is this latest theory.It sounds far more damaging than anything Clinton was accused of.


and far more koo-koo

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Reply #12 posted 03/01/07 6:19am

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SoulAlive said:



That's irrelevent anyway.The big story is this latest theory.It sounds far more damaging than anything Clinton was accused of.


and far more koo-koo


I wouldn't put anything past Bush and his adminstration.He's already stolen an election,lied about the war,manipulated gasoline prices during election cycles and numerous other crimes.One day,someone will write a very good book about all his sins,lol.

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Reply #13 posted 03/01/07 7:13am

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Friends,

I only posted this to make people aware of the situation, not because of my approval of any theory or lack of theory. I want people to be aware of the facts, and here are those facts....

1. In this reality that we understand and know every day, there are accusations against one another due to the forming of a cause in the mind of the accuser to make such charges.

2. Those charges are based on fact or fiction. There is truth, or there isn't.

3. Truth IS subjective to the mind of each individual, but in reality, there is truth and there is not. The human race does not have the answer to what "truth" is or is not. Some individuals believe they have the "truth", and that is fine for them, but it does not negate the fact that some hold a different view of the "truth".

4. Given the nature of mankind, I agree with SoulAlive's comment where he stated that "I wouldn't put anything past....". Not that I wouldn't put anything past just the Bush family- I wouldn't put anything past ANY human being. Every human being has the potential to either BE or NOT TO BE.

In reality, we can only shape our society based on the needs of the survival of our planet and the human race as a whole. Murder and causing death to one another is not helping the human race as a whole. But LOVE for one another, being that it is based on the premise of saving our lives, is indeed what we need to save our race and our planet.
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Reply #14 posted 03/01/07 7:56am

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SlamGlam said:

SoulAlive said:



Yeah,I've heard this theory for years.Conservatives like to dream up all kinds of crazy conspiracy theories about the Clintons, .



the difference is there are people that knew them that support some of the claims and there are legal documents that do so as well. not that all of it could be true but some of them do at least have something to support them.


Remember Paula Jones? She claimed that Clinton exposed himself in front of her. She was funded by Richard Scaife Mellon and his ilk. She really dragged Clinton through the mud.

But it turned out she was lying. Under oath, she described Clinton's penis. It turns out (and I can NOT believe I am typing this, LOL) that her description did not match the facts. Specifically, Clinton's piece makes a right-turn when aroused. Jones said it was straight.

Now I don't know about you, but if I saw a right-turn on someone's hardware - especially someone who was flashing me against my will - I'd remember that.

So obviously, this was made up. Which prompts us to ask, what ELSE about Clinton was made up?

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Reply #15 posted 03/01/07 10:43am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

This theory has shown up in more than one place... it's so horrifying to even begin to believe it, so if there is one bit of truth in there, the horror is what's keeping it hidden.

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Its an historic fact that the US government let Pearl Harbor sleep when they knew the Japanese were coming...

The reason was so the US public wouldnt oppose the US getting involved in WW II anymore. And they didnt anymore after that.

Why wouldnt the same have happened on 9/11/2001?

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Tremolina said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

This theory has shown up in more than one place... it's so horrifying to even begin to believe it, so if there is one bit of truth in there, the horror is what's keeping it hidden.

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Its an historic fact that the US government let Pearl Harbor sleep when they knew the Japanese were coming...

The reason was so the US public wouldnt oppose the US getting involved in WW II anymore. And they didnt anymore after that.

Why wouldnt the same have happened on 9/11/2001?

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Reply #17 posted 03/01/07 8:13pm

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i'm just wondering what the presbyterians are doing publishing a book by a process theologian about such a matter.

not that they need to censure, but it's a strange mix.

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