White pride

I am not a racist in any shape or form, I believe it is a foolish, antiquated notion for anyone to consider themselves superior on a racial basis. I speak Japanese, I have many friends of many ethnicities and some of my biggest heroes are black. And through this same belief in equality, I do feel that society is teaching me as a white man to be ashamed of my racial heritage. White men get picked on in the mainstream more than anybody else to the point where it seems to have become an acceptable cultural norm. Why is it that I can't be proud of being white without being associated with the KKK? Because I deserve it for all my ancestors did?

without applying moral value to the subject, i think it's kind of silly to expect a celebration of so-called "white pride", because "white" is (generally speaking) a much different thing than "black".

"black" is typically african-american.

"white" can be any number of ethnicities. i'm part german, part irish, part native american. you look at me and say "he's white". but that doesn't really speak to my origins, does it?

i guess what i'm saying is, i can't even approach the moral or ethical issue of a "white pride" celebration without first addressing the lack of utility in such an idea.

Anxiety said:

Anxiety said:

MrSquiggle said:

Mazerati said:

Anxiety said:

without applying moral value to the subject, i think it's kind of silly to expect a celebration of so-called "white pride", because "white" is (generally speaking) a much different thing than "black".

"black" is typically african-american.

"white" can be any number of ethnicities. i'm part german, part irish, part native american. you look at me and say "he's white". but that doesn't really speak to my origins, does it?

i guess what i'm saying is, i can't even approach the moral or ethical issue of a "white pride" celebration without first addressing the lack of utility in such an idea.

Anxiety said:

Mazerati said:

now larry david....THERE'S a guy who can school us all on race relations.

Mazerati said:

Anxiety said:

now larry david....THERE'S a guy who can school us all on race relations.

lol he has bad luck with every race

Anxiety said:

why do you feel like you can't be proud of being white?


I see "white" pride everywhere


the difference is that its broken down into ethnic pride....like Ani said. So I see all the Irish fests, Italian fests, German fests, etc.....which tends to be "white ppl". Because most black americans don't know their origins, when there's a celebration, its more generic "black expo" "black fest"....unless they are from the carribean or are from various parts of a Africa...then you may see something a little more specific.

I think what happens is when some ppl see these "black fests" they don't think there's an equivalent for white ppl and I think there's always been.

And yet, no one complains about Fiesta fests, Asian celebrations, etc and I think because those groups have a recognized culture and I think its assumed that black americans don't have a culture.


If you're proud of being white...be proud.

"I do feel that society is teaching me as a white man to be ashamed"

as an african american woman and a member of this american "society", my words to you are as follows:

you must learn to become resilient to what you feel is being pointed to you as a "white man". what was done in the past anyone's ancestors is just that "the past". unfortunately many people refuse to stop blaming the past for their current status america. while it is true and real that much of the lack of progress for certain racial groups has been impeded by prejudice and bigotry, i.e. the mexicans (during the 40's in california), italians (in late 1800's in new orleans--check it out), native americans (early american history), (american japanese-post ww2, many were hung in washington state), chinese (during the developement of the northern and southern pacific railway...many were killed) ...and need i mention what slavery has done to impede the psychological,educational and economic progress of blacks in this country...and unfortunately most if not all of this dominate control was perpetuated by white men.
however for you to take upon yourself a feeling of being targeted for the wrongs done by those men under the control of their own (past) insecurities and fears, is an invitation for useless time consuming self persecution.
i have been in love with a white man...and i still love him..
what happened in our past is no consequences to who we are today...
love yourself first...how others percieve you does not make you the man you are...."cause baby I'm/your a star....baby yes I/you are..."

i love you for who you are, not the one u feel u need to be.
My star shines bright ....even in the darkest night...

While I think it's important to be proud of what you are regardless of whatever that may be, you need also to recognize that white heterosexuals were and still are the dominant culture in the western world. Pride events and groups whether racial or in the name of sexual orientation are meant to instill a little self-love in historically marginalized groups.

I don't think whites (or heterosexuals) are necessarily discouraged from expressing pride by society, only that it can be a touchy issue. What do most people think of when they hear the phrase "white pride"? Racism. Being proud of being white obviously does not make one a racist, but people need to watch how they approach it.

Rhondab said:

why do you feel like you can't be proud of being white?


I see "white" pride everywhere


the difference is that its broken down into ethnic pride....like Ani said. So I see all the Irish fests, Italian fests, German fests, etc.....which tends to be "white ppl". Because most black americans don't know their origins, when there's a celebration, its more generic "black expo" "black fest"....unless they are from the carribean or are from various parts of a Africa...then you may see something a little more specific.

I think what happens is when some ppl see these "black fests" they don't think there's an equivalent for white ppl and I think there's always been.

And yet, no one complains about Fiesta fests, Asian celebrations, etc and I think because those groups have a recognized culture and I think its assumed that black americans don't have a culture.


If you're proud of being white...be proud.

I have a hard time with definitions of black and white anyway, because these seem to change according to time, place and culture.

And who's truly "black" or "white" anyway? Silly. People are brown, pink, tannish, etc etc...

Rhondab said:

why do you feel like you can't be proud of being white?


I see "white" pride everywhere


the difference is that its broken down into ethnic pride....like Ani said. So I see all the Irish fests, Italian fests, German fests, etc.....which tends to be "white ppl". Because most black americans don't know their origins, when there's a celebration, its more generic "black expo" "black fest"....unless they are from the carribean or are from various parts of a Africa...then you may see something a little more specific.

I think what happens is when some ppl see these "black fests" they don't think there's an equivalent for white ppl and I think there's always been.

And yet, no one complains about Fiesta fests, Asian celebrations, etc and I think because those groups have a recognized culture and I think its assumed that black americans don't have a culture.


If you're proud of being white...be proud.

i'm interested in my ethnic heritage up to a point. i'm proud of my ancestors and what they did, the struggles they overcame as dirt poor immigrants to a foreign country and how they managed to better themselves over the years.

but as far as feeling 'pride' in myself goes, the only reason i can see for feeling that would be based on how i'm living my life. right here and now, and regardless of my skin color.

i did once work at a meeting house that refused an anglophile group from gathering at the facility because it sounded too much like a "white pride group". it was just some people who were into british culture.

THAT kind of hypersensitivity is really lame.

I'd like to start a movemenet called "Pasty White Pride."




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2the9s said:

I'd like to start a movemenet called "Pasty White Pride."




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Anxiety said:

2the9s said:

I'd like to start a movemenet called "Pasty White Pride."




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there's a movement i'd like to start too, but it has more to do with all the cheese i ate over thanksgiving.

I'm just proud of being me. That might offend people because I'm a jackass and that's nothing to be proud of.

ReturnOfDOOK said:

I'm just proud of being me. That might offend people because I'm a jackass and that's nothing to be proud of.

Anxiety said:

ReturnOfDOOK said:

I'm just proud of being me. That might offend people because I'm a jackass and that's nothing to be proud of.

I think you should be proud of your shame!

ReturnOfDOOK said:

Anxiety said:

I think you should be proud of your shame!

Pride is a deadly sin

I would like to be proud but i'm a Catholic and that's the problem with Catholics, that we can't be proud

I wish I could

You owe me $5. I caught the big fish....again

Anxiety said:

ReturnOfDOOK said:

:wildebeest:

ReturnOfDOOK said:

Let me make a statement by posing a question.

Who has watched the White Entertainment Channel lately?

and I'm not talking about CMT.

seekingtruth said:

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