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is the current POPE "The False Prophet" that makes way for..

The Anti-Christ?

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read this....


http://www.cuttingedge.or.../n1623.cfm

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Title: GRAND GLOBAL MERGER OF ALL BLACK MAGICK FORCES OCCURRED WHEN POPE PAUL VI BECAME POPE in 1963 Resources to aid your Understanding
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Subtitle: For two centuries, the Black Magick Illuminati sought to take over the Vatican from within; in June, 1963, Pope Paul VI became the first Black Magick Pope. Vatican Assassins details the first major event to then occur: the assassination of President John F. Kennedy
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SETTING THE STAGE: "Windswept House: A Vatican Novel", by Malachi Martin, "The Enthronement of the Fallen Archangel Lucifer, June 29, 1963.

"The Enthronement of the Fallen Archangel Lucifer was effected within the Roman Catholic Citadel on June 29, 1963; a fitting date for the historic promise about to be fulfilled. As the principal agents of this Ceremonial well knew, Satanist tradition had long predicted that the Time of the Prince would be ushered in at the moment when a Pope would take the name of the Apostle Paul. That requirement -- the signal that the Availing Time had begun -- had been accomplished just eight days before with the election of the latest Peter-in-the-Line." [P. 7; Emphasis added]

This Pope who would take the name of the Apostle Paul, was none other than Pope Paul VI, who became Pope on June 21, 1963. Few people know that, on that day, a grand merger of Satanic forces occurred that brought the Vatican into full accord with the Masters of the Illuminati. You see, Satanists know that the Traditional Roman Catholic Church has always been the most powerful practitioner of White Magic Witchcraft in the world [Read NEWS1334 for full details], while the Masters of the Illuminati has been the most powerful practitioner of Black Magick Witchcraft in the world since their founding on May 1, 1776.

As a result, the Vatican and the Masters of the Illuminati had always been mortal enemies on the global stage. Was the world to be united under a global government controlled by the White Magic Vatican or by the Black Magick Illuminati? Vatican intrigue and subversion of governments worldwide continually clashed with similar intrigue by the Black Magic Illuminati. The conflict was the stuff of legends, the stuff of the CIA battling the KGB.

In the early 1800's, the Illuminati decided to infiltrate the Vatican from within, beginning with the infiltration of rogue priests within seminaries, graduating to control of seminaries, then moving to control of the College of Cardinals, and then finally, to control the Papacy itself. From the beginning, they calculated they might need all of 200 years to accomplish this goal. However, they knew they must control the Papacy with Black Magick, for their Christ -- the Biblical Antichrist -- could not arise unless the occult world was united under the Black banner. The Bible foretells that Antichrist will practice Black Magick Witchcraft, in Daniel 8:23-25. Listen:

"And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand." [Parallel Bible, KJV/Amplified Bible Commentary; Emphasis added]


The words we have highlighted, above, are perfect descriptions of a practitioner of Black Magick Witchcraft. A brief explanation is in order:

Fierce Countenance -- since a Black Magick witch or wizard has voluntarily given themselves up to the Dark Side, to the Dark demonic forces of Hell, they are filled with an anger and hatred that is truly supernatural. They will physically take on a dark, brooding look. Adolf Hitler is the most infamous example in world history, and pictures of him abound showing him very dark, very brooding. Freemason Aleister Crowley is another good example.

Understanding Dark Sentences -- When any occultist reaches a certain point in the development of his or her understanding of Witchcraft, they must make a choice: if they choose to use their occult power for "good", they are said to be following the Right Hand Path, and practicing White Magic. If they choose to use their occult power for "evil", they are said to be following the Left Hand Path, and practicing Black Magick Witchcraft. A Black Magick Witch or Wizard then practices "Dark Sentences" that wreak chaos, death, and destruction. A good example of this type of Dark Sentence is a "killing curse", where a demon is called into this dimension for the express purpose of killing an enemy of the coven; police departments are well aware of this type of "Dark Sentence", and they call it Psychic Murder. Such murder is impossible to solve because no human carried out the deed; since a supernatural demon carried out the murder, no clues are left behind which would enable police to solve the crime.

Craft to Prosper in his Hand -- Witchcraft has always been referred to in a shorthand way as "The Craft". Further, all rituals are done by the witch or wizard using their hands. The movement of the hands ceremonially is crucial to the success of the ritual of whatever kind it is.


Thus, Antichrist will practice Black Magick Witchcraft. This Biblical prophecy meant that the ultimate victory would belong to the Masters of the Illuminati. Thus it was that this ultimate capture of the Vatican officially occurred on June 21, 1963, with the coronation of Pope Paul VI. Since the Illuminati revels in flashing symbolic signals to the world that only Satanists will understand, they wasted no time flashing the symbolic signal that they had finally conquered the White Magic Vatican for their cause. Pope Paul VI began to show the Satanic symbol known as the Twisted Crucifix, shown here in the hands of Pope John Paul II. Let us allow Catholic author, Piers Compton the privilege of the explanation, in his book, "The Broken Cross: Hidden Hand In the Vatican", Channel Islands, Neville Spearman, 1981:

"This Bent Crucifix is "... a sinister symbol, used by Satanists in the sixth century, that had been revived at the time of Vatican Two. This was a bent or broken cross, on which was displayed a repulsive and distorted figure of Christ, which the black magicians and sorcerers of the Middle Ages had made use of to represent the Biblical term 'Mark of the Beast'. Yet, not only Paul VI, but his successors, the two John-Pauls, carried that object and held it up to be revered by crowds, who had not the slightest idea that it stood for anti-Christ." (p. 72) On page 56 Compton prints a picture of the current Pope, John Paul II, holding this bent or broken cross, just as we have shown, at left. We encourage you to read the full report on this subject in RC100.


The Twisted Cross is very well known as a symbol of the Black Magick Antichrist to Satanists throughout the world. Further, Satanists around the world know the role of the Papacy in promoting this Black Magick plan. This fact is the reason Malachi Martin showed the Twisted Crucifix on the front cover of his novel, "Windswept House"; this Twisted Crucifix is displayed prominently against the black-clad figure of the Pope in the background!

Now, let us return to the story of the official secret Black Magick ceremony to commemorate this Black Magick victory. It was held on June 29, 1963. I find it highly instructive that the specific day chosen for this black coronation was the 29th of the month, a day that adds to an '11', the number of Antichrist in both the Bible [Daniel 7:7-8] and in Satanic doctrine. After the public ceremony on June 21, the Black Magick ceremony occurred on June 28; however, it was to be a Parallel Ceremony, a ceremony which was to be held in two distinct geographical locations at the identical time. Malachi Martin explains in, "Windswept House". Listen:

"Such unobtrusive elements as the Pentagram and the black candles and the appropriate draperies could be part of the Ceremonial in Rome. But other Ruberics -- the Bowl of Bones and the Ritual Din, for example, the sacrificial animals and the victim -- would be too much. There would have to be a Parallel Enthronement. A Concelebration could be accomplished with the same effect by the Brethren in an Authorized Targeting Chapel. Provided all the participants in both locations 'targeted' every element of the Event on the Roman Chapel, then the Event in its fullness would be accomplished specifically in the target area. It would all be a matter of unanimity of hearts, identity of intention and perfect synchronization of words and actions between the Targeting Chapel and the Target Chapel. The living wills and the thinking minds of the Participants concentrated on the specific Aim of the Prince would transcend all distance." [P. 8]

In other words, the required sacrificial animal, and the human victim, that could not be ceremonially murdered in the secret ceremony in the Roman Chapel within the walls of the Vatican could be carried out at the parallel ceremony in the off-site "Authorized Targeting Chapel". Martin says this chapel was located in South Carolina, USA! [Ibid.]

However, each gesture, each word, of the ceremony in the Roman Chapel within the Vatican must be exactly, simultaneously carried out in the off-site chapel. To accomplish this feat, a telephone hookup was established. In each location, a senior priest who had carried out the ritual so any times they were perfectly familiar with the cadence of the gesture and the spoken word would begin at the same moment, and end at precisely the same moment. When the time came for the "living sacrifice" to be made, the ceremonial dagger in the Vatican would fall at precisely the same moment as the ceremonial dagger in the off-site chapel!

Through this Black Magick ceremony, the first truly Black Magick Pope in history -- Pope Paul VI -- was officially and powerfully enthroned. The Parallel Ceremony was absolutely essential, for the true merger of Satanic forces worldwide could not have otherwise occurred.

But, occur they did. The massive Satanic forces of Black and White Magic ceased their battling for supremacy, joining forces at the "Latter Time" in order to finally move the world into the Kingdom of Antichrist, the New World Order. From that moment, final decisions were made by the top leadership of the Masters of the Illuminati, not the Vatican. The top leadership shifted to the British Monarchy, to the House of Windsor [Read Antichrist and a Cup of Tea, by Tim Cohen]; the Vatican simply began to take orders instead of issue them.

This grand merger of all Satanic forces meant that the Jesuits were now working for the Illuminati, not for the Vatican. All the agents of the Jesuits, and all their organizations, now took their orders from the Illuminati. Therefore, all events that occurred on behalf of the coming New World Order after June 29, 1963, occurred because the Illuminati ordered it. The Vatican ceased to be an independent headquarters, and began marching in full sync with the House of Windsor.

The Pope was then chosen to be the top religious leader in early 1991 [Read NEWS1052 for full details]. Since the Illuminati is fully in control of the Vatican now, and since they plan on the Pope being the Religious False Prophet of Revelation 13:11-18 they have no trouble showing public obeisance to the Pope when they meet with him; thus, the Pope wears the white dress symbolic in the Zoroastrian religion of the Luciferian Sun God, while the Illuminists who meet with him dress in subordinate black [Read NEWS1608].

This fact is the one key element that the author of the Vatican Assassins simply does not understand. Nevertheless, his expose' of the Vatican and the Jesuits is priceless, for they thoroughly document the Jesuit intrigue from the long corridors of history and into the 20th Century. They also aid us in understanding many of the troubling events of history. Let us now examine just such a troubling event: the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Let us review the Vatican Assassins revelations first.


- Chart


The World System in 1963


Satan
"...the god of this world..." II Corinthians 4:4

Jean-Baptiste Janssens
Jesuit General

Giovanni Battista Montini
"Infallible" Pope Paul VI

Francis "Cardinal" Spellman
Archbishop of New York and Knight of Columbus
American "Military Vicar"

J. Peter Grace, CFR
Head, American Branch
of the Knights of Malta
Head, W.R. Grace & Co.
Sponsored "Operation Paperclip"
Military Industrial Complex

John A. McCone
Knight of Malta
Military Industrial Complex
Director, Central Intelligence Agency
Reinhard Gehlen
Knight of Malta
General, Nazi Intell
Betrays German Army
General, U.S. Army
Builds CIA
Trains Israel's
MOSSAD

James Jesus Angleton
Knight of Malta
OSS Officer in Rome

NKVD / KGB Agent
Chief, Counterintelligence, CIA
Manned "Vatican Desk", CIA
Manned "Israeli Desk", CIA
Kim Philby
Knight of Malta
British SIS
Member of Jesuit Maly's "Cambridge Spy Ring"
CIA/KGB
Philby/Oswald
False Defectors

Blamed Castro & Oswald





William F. Buckley, Jr.
Knight of Malta
CFR / CIA Officer
"Skull & Bones" Member
Editor, National Review
Blamed Castro
Blamed Oswald


Clay Shaw
Knight of Malta
CIA Officer
Director, Intl. Trade Mart
New Orleans
Tried by Jim Garrison, 1969

Lee Harvey Oswald
ONI, CIA, FBI
False Defector to Russia
KGB/CIA Connection
"I'm Just a Patsy"
Murdered by Mafioso
Jack Ruby
Ruby imprisoned, murdered

Warren Commission
Gerald Ford, Congressman
Shriner Freemason
Cartha D. DeLoach, FBI
Knight of Malta
DeLoach aids Ford
Blames Oswald
The Great Jesuit Cover-up
1963 to the Present


Henry Luce
Knight of Malta
CFR / CIA Officer
"Skull & Bones" Member
Editor, Time / Life
Blamed Castro
Blamed Oswald




E. Howard Hunt
CIA Assassin
Proven to be in Dallas, Texas
on November 22, 1963
in Miami's Federal District Court in
Hunt v. Liberty Lobby, 1985
Documented in Mark Lane's
Plausible Denial, 1991


Charles Colson
Pro-Jesuit Protestant
Aids in Cover-up



G. Gordon Liddy
Fordham Jesuit-trained
Aids in Cover-up


Assassination of President Kennedy
Knight of Columbus
"Rebel" to the Pope, in attempting to destroy the Jesuit General's CIA and end
"Spelly's War" in Vietnam, and therefore was a "notorious tyrant"
whose assassination was lawful, according to the Jesuit Francisco Suarez
in his Defensio Catholicae Fidei.

"Vatican Assassins", p. 39




As you carefully study the people of this chart, you will discover the names of the key Jesuit figures that play such a prominent part in this assassination. People like:

Francis Cardinal Spellman, Archbishop of New York and the Knights of Columbus. Vatican Assassins reveals that he is also the "Military Vicar" for America. Few people have ever thought the Cardinal had a "dark side" to him, but he assuredly does, for no one not part of the Black Pope agenda could ever be appointed to such a high level of authority within the Roman Catholic hierarchy.

J. Peter Grace, Head of the American branch of the Knights of Malta. Grace was also appointed to a special investigative panel by President Reagan.

John A. McCone, Knight of Malta, and CFR [Council on Foreign Relations] member, was well known throughout the disastrous Vietnam War, one of the major planned wars of the Illuminati.

William F. Buckley, Jr., Knight of Malta, CFR and CIA, plus the Satanic secret society, Skull and Bones [Read NEWS1314]. Buckley has always been touted as a key "Conservative" that fights Big Government and its ever-increasing instrusiveness, demonstrating the truth we teach in Seminar 2, that the CFR was designed to turn out men and women thoroughly trained in the tactics of the New World Order, while graduating with a label they would carry with them for the rest of their lives.

Henry Luce, Time Magazine, Knight of Malta, CFR/CIA, and Skull and Bones member! Thus, even though he has such Satanic credentials, the Reverend Billy Graham counts him as one of his best friends. Graham said that, after their first meeting arranged at the South Carolina's governor's mansion by 33rd Degree Mason, Strom Thurmon, he and Luce developed an "enduring friendship"! [Dr. Burns, Billy Graham and His Friends: A Hidden Agenda?", p. 41]

Lee Harvey Oswald was a low-level CIA/KGB agent who was used mightily to foster the ridiculous one-gunman theory of the assassination of President Kennedy. Any well-laid assassination will always have a fall-guy to whom the focus of the "investigation" can turn, thus drawing the attention of the average citizen away from the real culprits.

Gerald Ford, destined to become President after Nixon resigned, was not only a Shriner Freemason as reported by Vatican Assassins, but was also a member of the Bilderberg Group, one of the major Illuminist governing bodies.

Charles Colson is identified by Vatican Assassins as a "Pro-Jesuit Protestant"! This certainly explains the terribly wrong turn that Colson's ministry took, as he veered off into horrific apostasy, cooperating with the Pope, accepting the Templeton Award and generally leading trusting Christians astray!

Vatican Assassins correctly identifies the reason President Kennedy was murdered: he was going to take America out of the planned Vietnam War. Further, Kennedy planned to drastically reduce the power and scope of the CIA and the Federal Reserve, and some have even stated their belief that he was going to reveal the total plan of the Illuminati to stage Antichrist!

It is no wonder the Jesuits took him out!

However, the Kennedy Assassination also bears large marks of Freemasonry. As I stated in NEWS1314:

"President Kennedy was planning to use the powers of his office of the presidency to fully inform the American people of the Illuminati plan to enslave us, and only weeks later, he was assassinated. However, his assassination was carried out according to the favorite number of the Illuminati, the eleven:

* Kennedy was murdered during the 11th month [November]

* Kennedy was murdered on the 22nd day [11 x 2]

* Kennedy was murdered at the 33rd parallel [11 x 3]

* Kennedy was murdered in the Masonic Dealey Plaza, the site of an old Masonic Lodge during the time of the Texas revolution designed to free Texas from Mexican control. Dealey Plaza also has an obelisk commemorating the site as being "the first fraternal Lodge in Texas". ["Masonry: Conspiracy Against Christianity", by A. Ralph Epperson, p. 51]

Thus, Kennedy was murdered with the bold typical signature of the Illuminati, just as surely as the Number 11 formed the Illuminist signature of the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on September 11, 2001." [Read NEWS1533, NEWS1538, NEWS1541]

Vatican Assassins listed men involved in the assassination who were connected to the Jesuits, as we have detailed, above. Below are men involved in critical positions with the assassination who were Masons: [Taken from "Masonry: Conspiracy Against Christianity", by A. Ralph Epperson, p. 332+]

Earl Warren, head of the Warren Commission.

J. Edgar Hoover, a 33rd Degree Mason.

Further, Kennedy was shot in the exact location in which the legendary hero, Hiram Abiff, was struck by the three ruffians in the dramatic legend of the Masonic Lodge! As was Hiram Abiff, Kennedy was struck in the back near the area of the heart, the neck, and finally the head. The last blow killed both men.

Finally, the Illuminati signaled to the entire world that they were the force behind the assassination when they created the Eternal Flame monument to the slain President [Read NEWS1547 for full details].

Freemasonry thus has its fingerprints all over the Kennedy assassination!

GRAND MERGER OF ILLUMINIZED FREEMASONRY AND VATICAN JESUITS

Now, how can both the White Magic Jesuits and the Black Magick Masons be intimately involved in the leadership of the assassination of President Kennedy? One cannot possibly reconcile this question unless you understand that a grand merger of all Satanic forces occurred on June 29, 1963, at the secret Enthronement of Pope Paul VI!

The organizations set up by the Jesuits became the organizations of the Masters of the Illuminati on June 29, 1963.


We are now fully 39 years following that eventful, secret Enthronement of the Fallen Archangel Lucifer, as described by Malachi Martin. World events have proceeded apace, and now the world stands trembling at the precipice the Bible calls the Tribulational Period, and its ruler, Antichrist



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Reply #3 posted 11/10/05 1:02am

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But there are many false prophets...

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Reply #4 posted 11/10/05 9:16am

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loveletter nice post... but Pope Paul was 40 years ago. we are now 3 Popes later on Benedict XVI.

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Reply #5 posted 11/10/05 4:39pm

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i was thinking...

if the anti-christ was to appear would he really come from the catholic church. i mean come on. he is jealous. he wants to be Christ. he wants to be in his IMAGE. when the he comes the anti-chirst he will come like jesus did. HE WILL KNOW LOVE. And The Anti-Christ will use it against you. Each and everyone of you. And U all will bow down to him and worship his name. He is gonna come from the people, born onto man as man. He Will Be Heir 2 The Throne.


and you were thinking?

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Reply #6 posted 11/10/05 4:41pm

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and i was thinking.....


He could even be one of Us right here in Us.


"if you could be the president, I would be the Pope"

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Reply #7 posted 11/10/05 4:43pm

IAmMyFather

if u should be the Prince.

then i shal be The First Born


I Am My Father.

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Reply #8 posted 11/10/05 5:13pm

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that's why one should read the bible for themselves so they can discern the true from the false...

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how can there be truth if there is no false.

one is in need of the other until the challenge has declared

the witness Of You.

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just amagine what you can do with your amagination.


life doesn't have to be so boring.

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Reply #11 posted 11/11/05 1:02am

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* Kennedy was murdered at the 33rd parallel [11 x 3]


What is this 33rd parallel???

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Astasheiks

I know somebody knows what this 33rd parallel is????

33 hhhmmm....

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Astasheiks said:

I know somebody knows what this 33rd parallel is????

33 hhhmmm....



33 degrees West of the Prime Mirdian.

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http://www.cuttingedge.or.../n1766.cfm

Title: MASONS AND OTHER OCCULTISTS REVERE THE NUMBER '33' ABOVE ALL OTHER NUMBERS. MANY ACTS OF WAR, MURDER, AND ASSASSINATION HAVE OCCURRED ON OR NEAR THE 33RD DEGREE PARALLEL. IS IT COINCIDENCE BAGHDAD, IRAQ IS LOCATED ON 33RD NORTH PARALLEL?

Resources to aid your Understanding








Subtitle: Further, is it just coincidence that Babylon was first major city to be established simply because it was on the 33rd Degree Parallel? Remember the demonic belief in the importance of staging major events on or near the 33rd Degree Parallel:
"If a life is taken close to the northern 33rd Parallel, this fits with the Masons’ demonic mythology in which they demonstrate their worldly power by spilling human blood at a predetermined locale." ["Masons and Mystery At The 33rd Parallel", by Day Williams]
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THE CUTTING EDGE

"Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen." Romans 1:25

Thus does God Himself provide the most powerful, most succinct, definition ever of a pagan: they worship and serve the creature more than the Creator! Thus, pagans have worshipped aspects of nature like the Sun, Moon, Stars (Astrology), Planet Earth (Mother Gaia), rivers, snakes, frogs, insects, and man. For all this, God has historically brought each pagan nature and/or culture into severe physical judgment, destroying them completely.

One of the major created things that pagans worship are Numbers. Occultists literally worship science and the mathematics underlying science. They literally believe that numbers possess inherent power, all their own. Listen to the explanation of one of history's greatest Satanists, W. Wynn Wescott, who was extremely influential in the latter part of the 19th Century.

"The followers of Pythagoras ... referred every object, planet, man, idea, and essence to some number or other, in a way which to most moderns must seem curious and mystical in the highest degree. 'The numerals of Pythagoras', says Porphyry, who lived about 300 A.D., 'were hieroglyphic symbols, by means whereof he explained all ideas concerning the nature of things', and the same [numeric] method of explaining the secrets of nature is once again being insisted upon in the new revelation of the 'Secret Doctrine', by H.P. Blavatsky. 'Numbers are a key to the ancient views of cosmogony -- in its broad sense, spiritually as well as physically considered, to the evolution of the present human race; all systems of religious mysticism are based upon numerals. The sacredness of numbers begins with the Great First Cause, the One, and ends only with the nought or zero -- symbol of the infinite and boundless universe'." ["The Occult Power of Numbers", W. Wynn Westcott, p. 15.]

To reiterate: "... 'Numbers are a key to the ancient views of cosmogony ... spiritually as well as physically ... to the evolution of the present human race; all systems of religious mysticism are based upon numerals. The sacredness of numbers ..." [Ibid.]

The Satanist always places great power in numbers, especially the Black Magic Satanist. As we have stated in earlier articles, Daniel 8:23-25 tells us that the religion practiced by Antichrist is Black Magick; further, Revelation 17:17 tells us that the final 10 kings are of the same mindset and religion as Antichrist. Thus, we were not surprised that both Presidents Bush are Black Magic practitioners from the Skull & Bones Society, and that President Clinton was a practicing Black Magic Satanist.

Satanists believe that a carefully planned event must be carried out according to the correct numbers, or it may not be successful. They go to great lengths to make an event occur according to the correct numbers. During the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, we demonstrated how the attacks were carried out according to the Number '11', their number of Antichrist.

Let us give you a few examples of when the Illuminati undergirded a key event using the occult signature of the number 11.

When the Illuminati ended the First World War, they had just successfully completed the first war of Albert Pike's occult plan to produce Antichrist [Read NEWS1056]. Thus, they deliberately ended it on the 11th Month [November], the 11th Day, at the 11th hour. The signing of the Armistice agreement was thus undergirded by three elevens!

When the Illuminati assassinated President Kennedy, he was killed according to the occult number signature of eleven [11]. He was killed in the 11th month, on the 22nd day, and on the 33rd parallel. He was also killed in the Masonic Dealey Plaza, the most powerful secret society in the world today to whom the number 11 is extremely important. We shall revisit this subject later on, as we discuss the number '33' from a different angle.

The Number 11 was a most powerful occult signature underlying these events. When they were successfully carried out, occultists the world over knew exactly what had happened and who had carried it out, and for the purpose of setting the stage for "Number 11" himself, Antichrist.

Why is the number 11 important to the occultist? As Wescott explains, "... so 11 is the essence of all that is sinful, harmful, and imperfect." [Ibid., p. 100] Thus, while 11 is very important, multiplication's are also important, such as 22, 33, 44, 55, 66, 77, 88, and 99.

However, most importantly, Bible prophecy assigns the Number '11' to Antichrist in Daniel 7:8! Listen

"I considered the [10] horns, and behold, there came up among them another horn, a little one [Antichrist] ..." Bible scholars have always called Antichrist the "11th Horn".

Thus, this occult and Illuminist preoccupation with the Number 11 as they strive to produce their Antichrist, is dictated by Biblical prophecy concerning Antichrist.



33 MAY BE MOST SACRED, MOST POWERFUL NUMBER OF ALL!

Solomon's Signet Ring With Seal Diagram, "Isis Unveiled", by Madame Blavatsky.

This drawing depicts Blavatsky's crude handmade drawing of King Solomon's signet ring, with its seal. Notice the uneven hexagram and the numbers '333' placed at different points on this seal. What is the occult fascination with the number '33', and its extension, '333'? Once you understand the belief Satanists have about this number, you will understand certain events in history more completely -- for example, when Adolf Hitler planned his suicide, he decided to shoot himself on April 30, 1945, at precisely 3:30pm, thus setting up a '333' by which the deed was done. He believed that this '333' would allow him to pass quickly through the reincarnation cycle so he could come back to earth as the real, historic Antichrist.

Now, let us examine the power the Satanist believes resides in '33' and '333'. We shall quote from White Magic practitioner, Elizabeth van Buren, in her book, "The Secret of the Illuminati", as she openly reveals Luciferian thought and values in her New Age book.

"Thirty-three appears to be the most mysterious of numbers. It is found over and over again in the stories of the Bible and elsewhere. Jesus Christ was thirty-three when he was crucified; the first temple of Solomon stood for thirty-three years before being pillaged by King Shishak of Egypt; there are thirty-three symbols of the Masonic Order and one of their symbols depicts a double-headed eagle crowned with an equilateral triangle: inside of this is the number thirty-three. [p. 160]

Van Buren continues:

"In the Vishnu-Purana Book 1, it states: These thirty-three divinities exist age after age, and their appearance and disappearance is in the same number as the sun sets and rises again." [p. 160-1]

"In the Tibetan Book of the Dead, it speaks of the thirty-three heavens ruled over by Indra and the thirty-three ruled over by Mara ... The Temple of Solomon was a cube, measuring thirty-three and a third feet; we once more turn to the Bible to read:

"Thus David, the son of Jesse, reigned over all Israel. And the time that he reigned over Israel was forty years; seven years reigned he in Hebron, and thirty and three years reigned he in Jerusalem." 1 Chron 29:27 [Ibid]

Thus, King David reigned in Jerusalem for 33 years.!

Now, van Buren tells us exactly why numbers are important, so that she may tell us exactly the significance of the number, '33' and '333'.

"Students of Numerology are well aware that numbers affect a person's life. One's name, place, and time of birth all have an influence on one's physical, mental, and spiritual being. Each letter as number has a certain vibratory effect ... the picture produced by the various combinations gives an understanding of the character, karma, and potentialities of the person ... in Spiritual Numerology, the numbers 11, 22, and 33 are the three 'Master Numbers', the highest being 33 ... This highest of the master numbers was the age of the Master Initiate (Jesus) at his death, resurrection and ascension, giving more esoteric accents. The '33' symbolizes the highest spiritual conscious attainable by the human being." [Ibid., p. 161-2]

Thus, Jesus -- called here the "Master Initiate" -- was '33' at the time of His death; then, when the occultist adds the number '3' for the number of days Jesus spent in the tomb, he gets '333' as a calculation for the entire event through which the occultist considers Jesus to have passed. As van Burn gushes, "Christ lay in the tomb for three days after his crucifixion, a symbol for us of the steps man must take in order to be reborn. The number '333' speaks of death, resurrection, and ascension." [Ibid., p. 162-3; NOTE: You and I know that Jesus' ascension did not occur for 40 days after He arose, but evidently, occultists have not examined the Scriptures carefully!]

An occultist assigns the number '333' to "death, resurrection, and ascension", and consider it to be most powerful.

Now you can understand how important it was to Adolf Hitler to arrange the timing of his death to form a '333' -- he wanted to attain the number of "death, resurrection, and ascension" so that he might come back more quickly in the reincarnation cycle, this time to be the REAL Antichrist.

Doubtless Hitler was also guided by the final revelation of the highest meaning of '33'. Listen:

"Indeed, there is not death, as can be discerned clearly ... There is only Change! The message ... is that there is a balance which one can achieve by which one can escape from the wheel of change, from life to death. This balance can be found by becoming fully aware so that both worlds are equally real to one. This awareness is found when the third eye is fully opened, the eye the symbol of which is the number '33' ..."

"Each '3' of the number '33' can be seen to be three-fold in the same way as a triangle has three sides: 3+3+3 = 9. In the temples of Atlantis and Egypt the candidate for initiation passed through nine degrees, or rather the three-fold three degrees, into the mysteries. These degrees symbolized the re-entering of the womb in order, after the three times three months of gestation, to be reborn into the world of Spirit-consciousness."

Then, van Buren gets to the core meaning assigned to the number '33'. Prepare to be shocked and revolted:

"How many have really understood the words: 'Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God'." John 3:3. [Ibid.]

The highest meaning of the number, '33', is that it represents the highest spiritual consciousness to which man can attain, and that '333' represents the man-god becoming immortal through his "death, resurrection and ascension", just as the occultist considers Master Initiate Jesus to have done! At this point, the man-god experiences a fully-functional, visible Third Eye open up within him, an eye people can physically see. This is the personal aim of all occultists. They seek to escape the death/reincarnation cycle, so they never die again!

Further, they seek to bring a "select number" of citizens of the earth along with them, so that the entire world can begin to go through a path to this highly exalted spiritual consciousness; at this moment, every one on earth will have a physical Third Eye, just as did the citizenry of Atlantis! Now, who is going to lead the peoples of the world into this highly exalted spiritual journey?

The Masonic New Age Christ, of course! The number '33' is his highest number, and the number representing the spiritual path to perfection and physically immortality!

1933 -- A MOST IMPORTANT YEAR IN THE OCCULT CALENDAR

The 20th Century was clearly the century in which God withdrew His restraining power enough so Satan could cause World Wars I and II to be fought exactly as the Guiding Spirit of Albert Pike revealed to him in 1870 [NEWS1056]. The stage was clearly being set in the last decade of the 20th Century for the Third World War to be fought, between Israel and her Arab neighbors. This coming war may explode into this global war, out of which will come Antichrist.

The Second World War began in the year, 1939. The number, '39', is very special to the occultist, because it is formed by the multiplication of '3 and 13'. The number '3' symbolizes the Pagan Trinity, while '13' is the number of ultimate rebellion against God. However, World War II was made possible through the events of 1933. Let us review these key events now.

January 30, 1933 -- Adolf Hitler was sworn in as Chancellor of Germany. [World Book Encyclopedia, Vol. 9, p. 239]. Note that this date also forms a '333'! Adepts the world over considered Hitler to the the "immortal god-man" until they realized he had chosen the "Left-Hand" path, the Evil path. At that moment on, all White Magic occultists opposed Hitler mightily. At his death, Hitler chose the day and the timing to form a '333', as we noted above.

February 27, 1933 -- Hitler's Nazi thugs started the fire at the Reichstag parliamentary building, blaming it on the Communists. This fire enflamed the anger and imagination of Germans all over the nation, and led directly to Hitler gaining absolute power shortly thereafter.

March, 1933 -- The Jewish Holocaust officially began with the establishment of the concentration camp at Dachau. Over time, Dachau would become one of the infamous killing centers of the entire holocaust effort. Killing of Jews before Kristallnacht in November, 1938, was very secretive, with death certificates being issued with phony causes of death. [http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/genocide/destrtim.htm]

On March 3, 1933, the Federal Reserve Board and the New York Reserve Bank's Governor Harrison had agreed that the Board would issue an order closing all the Federal Reserve Banks. New York Governor Herbert Lehman, at the urging of Governor Harrison, also agreed to proclaim an emergency bank holiday in New York, and a similar action was taken in Illinois. One of President Franklin D. Roosevelt's first official acts after taking office on Inauguration Day (Saturday, March 4, 1933), was to proclaim an emergency, three-day, nationwide banking holiday, signed and effective Monday, March 6. FDR was a member of the Ancient Arabic Order Nobles of the Mystic Shrine, i.e., the Shriners. Shriners are 33rd degree Masons. [Day Williams, Ibid.]

March 4, 1933 -- Masonic President Franklin Roosevelt was sworn in as President of the United States. Together with Rosicrucian Churchill and pagan Josef Stalin, Roosevelt formed the "planetary triangle" of nations known as the Allies, that would oppose the "planetary triangle" of nations known as the Axis Powers -- Germany, Italy, Japan. Thus, Roosevelt was sworn in during the 3rd month, 1933, thereby giving his inauguration an occult value of '333', just like Hitler's ascension to power!

Thus, Satan had his men on both sides of the Atlantic: Black Magick Hitler and White Magic 33rd Degree Mason, Roosevelt. World War II was inevitable at this point.

FOCUS ON 33 DEGREE NORTHERN PARALLEL

As we move forward in this article, we will focus on the number '33' and the way in which occultists have planned events and geographical locations around the 33rd Northern Parallel. You will be shocked at the bloody manner in which the New World Order will be established, just as this horrific "I Witch" symbol reveals.

First, let us speak of the way civilizations fall either to the north or to the south of the 33rd Parallel. Most of the world’s wealth is stored north of the north 33rd Parallel. Major financial centers north of the 33rd Parallel include London, New York, Chicago, and Switzerland. Most of this planet’s six billion people live south of the 33rd Parallel. One of the major historic facts is that the entire system of satanic lore germinated in Babylon which is located precisely on the 33rd Degree Parallel! Until the time of the Grecian Empire, the center of power was south of the 33rd Degree, held by Egypt and Babylon.

But, Greece and Rome began a movement of civilizations, where the center of power gravitated gradually northward. Since the reign of Sir Francis Bacon and Queen Elizabeth I (1590 - 1603), Rosicrucianism and Freemasonry have ruled England and Europe with an increasingly iron hand. Once Adam Weishaupt established the Masters of the Illuminati on May 1, 1776, Freemasonry has been gradually moving the entire world into the Kingdom of Antichrist -- New World Order. This is the society where the ultimate goal is that from "The Christ" on downward, all the peoples of the world still living after the "Cleansing Cycle" will so spiritually evolve, along the paths described above, that they will attain immortality on earth. The numeric symbol of this high degree of spiritual attainment will be '33', and the physical symbol will be the Third Eye that will open up physically between the eyes.

This is the ultimate goal; unfortunately, to achieve it, a lot of people are going to have to die. The symbol to the left describes the tremendous amount of Witchcraft that will be required to achieve this utopian state, for only a select few are truly "worthy" to pass through the cleansing cycle to live in this "New Heaven and New Earth" over which The Masonic Christ will rule.


Throughout history, Freemasons, Rosicrucians, and occultists of the day have planned events that they planned, in order to move the world ever closer to the final ideal, keeping in mind the occult premise stated at the beginning of this article by Day Williams. Let us review it again:

"If a life is taken close to the northern 33rd Parallel, this fits with the Masons’ demonic mythology in which they demonstrate their worldly power by spilling human blood at a predetermined locale."

This terrible concept is completely fulfilled by the bloody "I Witch" symbol, where human blood has been planned to be shed in huge torrents so that, at the right moment, The Christ may appear. Remember the Guiding Spirit vision of Albert Pike, January, 1870, in which the demon revealed that three world wars would have to be fought to establish the New World Order and its reigning monarch, Antichrist [Read NEWS1056]. Both world wars in the 20th Century have been fought to establish the One World Government, Economy, and Religion of Antichrist. This Third World War seems to be right ahead of us, and out of the smoke, debris, and blood of this war Antichrist will come striding.

ON OR NEAR THE 33 DEGREE NORTHERN PARALLEL

Chronology of Significant Events At The Northern 33rd Degree of Latitude -- Day Williams (Ibid.)

2589 - 2566 BC. The Great Pyramid was built in Egypt by masons at a location not far south of 30 degrees latitude, and on 31 degrees longitude. How the Great Pyramid was built is unknown. Herodotus estimated that it would have taken 30 years and 100,000 slaves to have built it.

1470 B.C. (?) Atlantis destroyed, according to occult legend. A continent was reputedly the size of Europe. It boasted gorgeous cities, advanced technology, utopian government, and an occult, spiritually enlightened, citizenry, as we discussed, above. It suffered a cataclysm and was reduced to rubble that sank beneath the sea, lost forever. The legend of Atlantis has been around for thousands of years, and whatever its factual validity may be, it does claim a noble heritage, for its earliest known proponent was Plato.

1704-1662 B.C. The Babylonian empire was based in Babylon, very near the 33rd Parallel. The empire stretched from the Persian Gulf to the middle Euphrates River and upper Tigris River regions.

1025 - 945 B.C. Tyre, Lebanon: Home of King Hiram and the mythological Hiram Abiff, the Terrible Twosome of Masonic legend. Tyre is less than 20 miles north of the 33rd Parallel. Hiram was the King of Tyre in the reigns of David and Solomon.

875-848 B.C. The Biblical Mount Carmel is south of the modern city of Haifa and west of the Sea of Galilee in Israel. Mount Carmel is less than 20 miles south of the 33rd Parallel. At Carmel Elijah the Hebrew prophet stood against 850 heathen prophets and defeated them (1 Kings 18).

605-562 B.C. Babylon was the predominant city in the ancient world during the reign of Nebuchadnezzar II. Babylon is very near the 33rd Parallel, as we reveal above; but, the current city of Baghdad is located right on the 33rd Degree Parallel. Keep this fact in mind for later in this article.

1756 Charleston, South Carolina, the original site of Scottish Rite Masonry in the United States, is only 15 miles south of the 33rd Parallel

1861 On April 12, Confederate forces fired on the Union’s Fort Sumter in Charleston Harbor, South Carolina, igniting the Civil War. Charleston, at the 33rd Parallel, is known officially as “the Mother Lodge of the World.” This Lodge had been founded by Moses Lindo as the King Solomon Lodge. Thus, the Civil War was started at the 33rd Parallel, a very Masonic thing to do!

On April 12, 1945, President Franklin D. Roosevelt met his “sudden death” of a cerebral hemorrhage at the 33rd Parallel at Warm Springs, Georgia. His last words were, “I have a terrific headache.” His medical chart is reportedly missing. Roosevelt was replaced by 33rd Degree Mason, Harry S. Truman. Weeks later, the nuclear bomb was dropped on the 33rd Degree Parallel, at Nagasaki, Japan!


1946 On August 19, 1946, Bill Clinton, the 42nd President, was born in Hope, Arkansas, at the 33rd Parallel. His parentage is disputed. As a young man, Bill Clinton was a Master Counselor of the Masonic-connected Demolay. (“Demolay” derives from the Grand Master of the Knights Templar, James deMolay (1244-1314)).

1947 On July 8, 1947 a UFO and aliens’ bodies were allegedly found in the desert outside Roswell, New Mexico at the 33rd Parallel

1963: The Kennedy Assassination -- President John F. Kennedy Sr. was shot and killed in Dealey Plaza in Dallas, Texas near the 33rd Parallel on 11/22/63 (11 + 22 = 33). Dealey Plaza is the site of the first Masonic temple in Dallas, and a Masonic obelisk. Thus, we see the following numbers in the JFK assassination:

Number 11 -- November

Number 22 -- The day of the month

Number 33 -- Addition of '11' and '22'

Number 33 -- Dealy Plaza is located on the 33rd Parallel

1968 On June 5, 1968, shortly after winning the California primary election, United States' Senator, Robert F. Kennedy, was killed at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles, California, close to the 33rd Parallel and near a Masonic Lodge. Like the assassination of JFK, this assassination contains the same occult "Master Numbers" -- 11, 22, 33.

Number 11 -- RFK was shot on June 5. June is the 6th month; when added to the 5th day, you get an '11'

Number 22 -- RFK was shot by a .22 caliber pistol

Number 33 --Addition of '11' and '22'

Number 33 -- Los Angeles is very near the 33rd Parallel

[Note: This information taken from RFK assassination site, http//:homepages.tcp.co.uk/~dlewis/crime.htm]

1990-1991 Gulf Storm I occurred. Both Baghdad and the U.N. "No Fly Zone" is located at the 33rd Degree Parallel. Who chose this parallel to be the exact demarcation line as to be the line which marked the line beyond which Iraqi airmen cannot fly?

1993 Waco, Texas, just south of the 32nd degree of north latitude, is the site of the Masonic Grand Lodge of Texas. On April 19, 1993 the Clinton Administration murdered adults and children in the Branch Davidian group at Mount Carmel, a compound about 10 miles from the city of Waco

Phoenix, Arizona, is on the 33rd Degree Parallel. Tremendous paranormal activity is occurring in Phoenix, and has been since the 1947 Roswell Alien/UFO incident allegedly occurred.

2003 -- Super Bowl was held at San Diego, which is right on the 33rd Degree Parallel.

Nagasaki, Japan is on the 33rd Parallel. Hiroshima is 100 miles away. Historians have always been perplexed as to why the U.S. chose Nagasaki to hit with a nuclear bomb, since no meaningful military or political targets existed in this city. However, you can see how 33rd Degree Mason, President Truman, might have made the decision to attack Nagasaki, located on the 33rd Parallel.

As you look carefully at this map, you can easily see how the 33rd Degree Parallel runs. You can see that the parallel runs right through Baghdad, with the ancient town of Babylon only about 25 miles away. If our Masonic leadership chose Nagasaki simply because it was located on the 33rd Parallel, is it any stretch of the imagination that the next target for U.S. nuclear attack might be Baghdad, or Iraq, for the entire country is located within a few miles within that parallel? News reports just a few days ago indicated the Pentagon was "possibly" planning to use nuclear weapons in Iraq.

In fact, when you look closely, you will realize that the Plain of Meggido is located almost exactly on the 33rd Degree Parallel! Isn't it interesting that the final "Battle of Armageddon" will be fought on the 33rd Degree Parallel? Thus, the final "battle", or slaughter of the ages, will be fought on the 33rd Degree Parallel!

CONCLUSION

In NEWS1761, we reached the conclusion that this coming war had nothing to do with the presence of Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction. This war also has nothing to do with terrorism, or with Iraq's supposed plans to use WMD on us or her Middle Eastern neighbors. Rather, this war is going to be waged simply because Iraq is in the center of world events -- at the 33rd Degree Northern Parallel. Just to the East of Baghdad is the Plain of Megiddo, where the final Battle of Armageddon will be fought!

Between now and the Battle of Armageddon, Antichrist will arise, take the world through the events of Revelation, and then be seized. If this is God's timing for Antichrist to arise, Bush will lead the U.S. into this war, no matter what U.N. inspectors have found. Since 1991, we have been put through the ringer called "U.N. Inspections", simply to hide from us the true reason this war is about to be fought.


The goal is the appearance of Antichrist. Is it God's timing? Only events will tell.


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Reply #15 posted 11/11/05 4:30pm

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since the Super Bowl occured on the 33rd Parallel the world must be coming to an end.

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Reply #16 posted 11/11/05 4:38pm

Astasheiks

I've heard many times that Jesus was Crucified at the Age of 33; since you brought up the number 33; you ever heard this???

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Reply #17 posted 11/11/05 4:53pm

Astasheiks

You think the "I" had anything with John F Kennedy Jr's death or it was all an accident?

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Reply #18 posted 11/11/05 9:38pm

Astasheiks

loveletter said:

is the current POPE "The False Prophet" that makes way for..

The Anti-Christ?



Actually he's suppose to be the last good Pope...from "The Book written about prophecies of The Popes".

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Reply #19 posted 11/11/05 10:13pm

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Astasheiks said:

loveletter said:

is the current POPE "The False Prophet" that makes way for..

The Anti-Christ?



Actually he's suppose to be the last good Pope...from "The Book written about prophecies of The Popes".



next to last

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Reply #20 posted 11/12/05 9:40pm

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ehuffnsd said:

Astasheiks said:



Actually he's suppose to be the last good Pope...from "The Book written about prophecies of The Popes".



next to last


I know there is suppose to be one more Pope after Pope Benedict but I said the last "good" Pope.

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Reply #21 posted 11/14/05 6:37am

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Remember though, this pope had ties to the Nazi's and was in the Hitler Youth.

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Reply #22 posted 11/14/05 6:53am

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Flashpointe said:

Remember though, this pope had ties to the Nazi's and was in the Hitler Youth.

oh no, not that shit again... mind I don't like the new pope, but the Hitler stuff is too much... everyone at a certain age HAD to be in the Hitler Jugend back then.. you had simply no choice...

it's like in 50 years from now you automatically link American people to the cruelty and crimes of Bush, cause they were in the US boy scouts in the year 2005...



so what other "ties" to the Nazis do yo mean specifically? I mean "ties" not every other German at that time and place would have just the same way, you know buying bread and milk at the grocery store from a NSDAP member and shit...

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It should also be mentioned that Paul is dead!

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Reply #24 posted 11/15/05 4:43am

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JediMaster said:

It should also be mentioned that Paul is dead!



One of my brothers always referred to John Paul II as "The Beatle Pope." biggrin

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