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Thread started 03/25/05 6:19am

mzflash

A Thank You for Jehovah and His Witnesses

I'd like to give a genuine Thank You to Jehovah and His Witnesses. You have been relentless in proclaiming your beliefs. Although we sometimes might not agree on specifics there is no greater gift than the gift that You have given me.

Last nite I received a call from my daughter who is serving active duty in the US Air Force. She told me that she just received an email stating that she is no longer on mobility status. Due to her separation from the armed forces in a few months, she will no longer be placed in a 'bucket' which can be deployed at anytime. I feel relief because now i know she won't be among those who go again. Yet until all soldiers are home, i know that there won't be true peace for any of us.

Because of the stance that JW's have taken on the issue of God's children serving in man's war i have taken a good look at my belief. Just as the new Army recuitment ad asks parents to encourage children to join the armed services out of pride and duty to our country....many are deceived as to the true nature of war.

The day she called to tell me that she was thinking of re-enlisting, i had ammunition ready gathered from these message boards. For all of the noble reasons she stated that she was considering leaving or staying: a good job, education and service to others, nothing compared to God's Word. The JW's interpretation of this rings true to me and i am grateful for the points you made. Some other religions skip this issue because they are brainwashed like others believing government propaganda. We are not here to fight each other and go to war. We are here to serve others and see that we are all brothers and sisters of one loving Lord.

Easter weekend means salvation to many. We remember Christ, the son of God who died for our sins so that we may spend eternity with Him. So I'd like to thank Jehovah for the many gifts He gives to us. And i'd like to thank the Jehovah's Witnesses for making His gifts known. Please post here if there is anything that You want to give thanks for.


rainbow rabbit rainbow
PS. Thanks also for the musical genius of Prince. We are all so proud to see Prince be recognized tonite when he recieves the NAACP award. rose
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Reply #1 posted 03/25/05 8:40am

Heiress

Thanks so much for this heartfelt expression... The JW stance on Christian neutrality is one of the major things that makes me cling to these people. How could we otherwise say that we're part of a world-wide brotherhood?

It's always very heart-warming to see the Bible's message making a practical difference in the lives of others. May Jehovah continue to bless you... and a belated happy Nisan 14 to you too!

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Reply #2 posted 03/25/05 8:43am

Heiress

By the way, mz, I'm going to share your post with a Bible student friend who has also been very upset by the way this world is going... it's going to be a huge encouragement to her.

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Reply #3 posted 03/25/05 8:55am

SpcMs

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I have a thing or two to share with Jehovah and His Witnesses, but since i'm not as much a pain in the ass as they are, i'll keep them to myself.

barf

"It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."

My IQ is 139, what's yours?
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Reply #4 posted 03/25/05 9:25am

Mach

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a beautifully put statement mzflash ...


i would like to give thanx to all faiths &
to all peoples

for i have learned much from them all


peace

The Whorg - org whores unite !

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Reply #5 posted 03/25/05 9:28am

Flashpointe

I am not going to address the continual negativity that emanates from the spirit of some individuals on this site.

Thank you, MzFlash for your kind words, for indeed, I am one of Jehovah's witnesses. I don't adhere to all of the doctrinal teachings of the actual JW religion, but I do share the Love and Peace of Jesus Christ and Jesus' teachings with you, as well as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob that we too share as our God. Peace is a wonderful thing, and I too believe that war is wrong and IS avoidable, regardless of what these negative entities within world governments and corporations say. I always enjoy your fellowship, MzFlash, and I continually pray for you and everyone else on this site, that we may all have peace, protection, and prosperity, by the Grace of God and by the redemption of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Your friend always,

Jason
[Edited 3/25/05 9:32am]

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Reply #6 posted 03/25/05 10:07am

fauxshow

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I thank Jehovah everyday for drawing those with the right heart condition to the truth, the ransom sacrifice, and the untold blessings his servants recieve.

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Reply #7 posted 03/25/05 10:30am

NewSystem

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Anyone ever wondered if all religious people took the same stance as Jehovah's Witnesses on war what the world would be like? smile

Truth is incontrovertible,
Malice may distort it,
Ignorance may deride it,
But there it is.

Go to the source - www.watchtower.org

2 all the haterz on the internet somebody's lookin' at you. No more candy 4 you they got ur number now fool.
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Reply #8 posted 03/25/05 10:41am

mzflash

NewSystem said:

Anyone ever wondered if all religious people took the same stance as Jehovah's Witnesses on war what the world would be like? smile


I think it would be called Peace and it would feel so good. biggrin

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Reply #9 posted 03/25/05 10:49am

mzflash

Heiress said:

By the way, mz, I'm going to share your post with a Bible student friend who has also been very upset by the way this world is going... it's going to be a huge encouragement to her.


Thank You Heiress. rose And thank You to the ORG originators and moderators for giving us an informative and fun place to communicate.

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Reply #10 posted 03/25/05 11:01am

jn2

Because of the stance that JW's have taken on the issue of God's children serving in man's war i have taken a good look at my belief. Just as the new Army recuitment ad asks parents to encourage children to join the armed services out of pride and duty to our country....many are deceived as to the true nature of war. _____

So what were Christians supposed to do during WW2? Let The Nazis/ Fascists win?

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Reply #11 posted 03/25/05 11:03am

Flashpointe

Peace is relative. Some people say, "well, if it hadn't been for war, then Hitler would have continued killing people". That is true, BUT-

If Hitler had chosen the correct path of peace and nonviolence, we wouldn't have had the war in the first place! Therefore, peace and nonviolence were STILL the correct actions.

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Reply #12 posted 03/25/05 11:06am

mzflash

Flashpointe said:

I am not going to address the continual negativity that emanates from the spirit of some individuals on this site.

Thank you, MzFlash for your kind words, for indeed, I am one of Jehovah's witnesses. I don't adhere to all of the doctrinal teachings of the actual JW religion, but I do share the Love and Peace of Jesus Christ and Jesus' teachings with you, as well as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob that we too share as our God. Peace is a wonderful thing, and I too believe that war is wrong and IS avoidable, regardless of what these negative entities within world governments and corporations say. I always enjoy your fellowship, MzFlash, and I continually pray for you and everyone else on this site, that we may all have peace, protection, and prosperity, by the Grace of God and by the redemption of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Your friend always,

Jason
[Edited 3/25/05 9:32am]


Thank You rose rose Jason for Your love and prayers. And Thank You for sharing your beliefs with us.
...Blessed are the peacemakers....

heart Only Love can change the world heart

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Reply #13 posted 03/25/05 11:08am

Taureau

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jn2 said:

Because of the stance that JW's have taken on the issue of God's children serving in man's war i have taken a good look at my belief. Just as the new Army recuitment ad asks parents to encourage children to join the armed services out of pride and duty to our country....many are deceived as to the true nature of war. _____

So what were Christians supposed to do during WW2? Let The Nazis/ Fascists win?



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jerkoff.....drool BULLSEYE! cool
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Reply #14 posted 03/25/05 11:09am

savoirfaire

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mzflash said:

NewSystem said:

Anyone ever wondered if all religious people took the same stance as Jehovah's Witnesses on war what the world would be like? smile


I think it would be called Peace and it would feel so good. biggrin


Regardless of the faith, if we all believed in the same thing and had the same thoughts, there would be peace.

But then... we wouldn't really be thinking for ourselves, and the world would be boring. The eternal struggle is greater freedom = greater chaos, greater security = greater restrictions.

"We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further." - Richard Dawkins
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Reply #15 posted 03/25/05 11:11am

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jn2 said:

Because of the stance that JW's have taken on the issue of God's children serving in man's war i have taken a good look at my belief. Just as the new Army recuitment ad asks parents to encourage children to join the armed services out of pride and duty to our country....many are deceived as to the true nature of war. _____

So what were Christians supposed to do during WW2? Let The Nazis/ Fascists win?


Nah, god was gonna reach down with his mighty hand and smack them to Hades. But, yet again mad , us mortals had to go and attempt to solve our own problems. mad mad

"We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further." - Richard Dawkins
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Reply #16 posted 03/25/05 11:12am

Taureau

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savoirfaire said:

jn2 said:


So what were Christians supposed to do during WW2? Let The Nazis/ Fascists win?


Nah, god was gonna reach down with his mighty hand and smack them to Hades. But, yet again mad , us mortals had to go and attempt to solve our own problems. mad mad


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jerkoff.....drool BULLSEYE! cool
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Reply #17 posted 03/25/05 11:30am

mzflash

Flashpointe said:

Peace is relative. Some people say, "well, if it hadn't been for war, then Hitler would have continued killing people". That is true, BUT-

If Hitler had chosen the correct path of peace and nonviolence, we wouldn't have had the war in the first place! Therefore, peace and nonviolence were STILL the correct actions.


Thanks Jason. As individuals we can actively promote peace by our postitive actions. rainbow

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Reply #18 posted 03/25/05 11:32am

mzflash

Taureau said:

savoirfaire said:



Nah, god was gonna reach down with his mighty hand and smack them to Hades. But, yet again mad , us mortals had to go and attempt to solve our own problems. mad mad


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Reply #19 posted 03/25/05 12:10pm

Taureau

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mzflash said:

Taureau said:



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This issue should be explored in another thread. smile

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Reply #20 posted 03/25/05 12:50pm

CptMorgan

jn2 said:

Because of the stance that JW's have taken on the issue of God's children serving in man's war i have taken a good look at my belief. Just as the new Army recuitment ad asks parents to encourage children to join the armed services out of pride and duty to our country....many are deceived as to the true nature of war. _____

So what were Christians supposed to do during WW2? Let The Nazis/ Fascists win?


There were JW's on both sides that refused to go to war.

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Reply #21 posted 03/25/05 1:00pm

Taureau

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CptMorgan said:

jn2 said:


So what were Christians supposed to do during WW2? Let The Nazis/ Fascists win?


There were JW's on both sides that refused to go to war.


I'd refine your argument and then start another thread on this subject otherwise this one's goin' down nod

jerkoff.....drool BULLSEYE! cool
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Reply #22 posted 03/25/05 3:10pm

fauxshow

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Taureau said:

CptMorgan said:



There were JW's on both sides that refused to go to war.


I'd refine your argument and then start another thread on this subject otherwise this one's goin' down nod


What argument? Its a statement of fact.

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Reply #23 posted 03/25/05 3:21pm

SensualMelody

jn2 said:

Because of the stance that JW's have taken on the issue of God's children serving in man's war i have taken a good look at my belief. Just as the new Army recuitment ad asks parents to encourage children to join the armed services out of pride and duty to our country....many are deceived as to the true nature of war. _____

So what were Christians supposed to do during WW2? Let The Nazis/ Fascists win?

If they would follow Jesus' teachings they would have done as those Christias did who refused to fight.
They went to jail.
They were intimidated.
They were persecuted.
Some were killed.
But they gave their lives and freedoms for what Jesus taught... and they are free from bloodguilt.

So...how's everybody doing? smile
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Reply #24 posted 03/25/05 3:26pm

SensualMelody

mzflash said:

I'd like to give a genuine Thank You to Jehovah and His Witnesses. You have been relentless in proclaiming your beliefs. Although we sometimes might not agree on specifics there is no greater gift than the gift that You have given me.

Last nite I received a call from my daughter who is serving active duty in the US Air Force. She told me that she just received an email stating that she is no longer on mobility status. Due to her separation from the armed forces in a few months, she will no longer be placed in a 'bucket' which can be deployed at anytime. I feel relief because now i know she won't be among those who go again. Yet until all soldiers are home, i know that there won't be true peace for any of us.

Because of the stance that JW's have taken on the issue of God's children serving in man's war i have taken a good look at my belief. Just as the new Army recuitment ad asks parents to encourage children to join the armed services out of pride and duty to our country....many are deceived as to the true nature of war.

The day she called to tell me that she was thinking of re-enlisting, i had ammunition ready gathered from these message boards. For all of the noble reasons she stated that she was considering leaving or staying: a good job, education and service to others, nothing compared to God's Word. The JW's interpretation of this rings true to me and i am grateful for the points you made. Some other religions skip this issue because they are brainwashed like others believing government propaganda. We are not here to fight each other and go to war. We are here to serve others and see that we are all brothers and sisters of one loving Lord.

Easter weekend means salvation to many. We remember Christ, the son of God who died for our sins so that we may spend eternity with Him. So I'd like to thank Jehovah for the many gifts He gives to us. And i'd like to thank the Jehovah's Witnesses for making His gifts known. Please post here if there is anything that You want to give thanks for.


rainbow rabbit rainbow
PS. Thanks also for the musical genius of Prince. We are all so proud to see Prince be recognized tonite when he recieves the NAACP award. rose
sun guitar

This is EASY!!!!
I am thankful for this postive post.
I also heard Prince will thank Jehovah tonite,
Thank You!

So...how's everybody doing? smile
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Reply #25 posted 03/25/05 6:55pm

jn2

SensualMelody said:

jn2 said:


So what were Christians supposed to do during WW2? Let The Nazis/ Fascists win?

If they would follow Jesus' teachings they would have done as those Christias did who refused to fight.
They went to jail.
They were intimidated.
They were persecuted.
Some were killed.
But they gave their lives and freedoms for what Jesus taught... and they are free from bloodguilt.
OK so there is a genocide happening in another country, if you follow Jesus ' teachings do.... nothing!

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Reply #26 posted 03/25/05 6:59pm

jn2

CptMorgan said:

jn2 said:


So what were Christians supposed to do during WW2? Let The Nazis/ Fascists win?


There were JW's on both sides that refused to go to war.
Luckily, some people fought & died for our freedom.

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Reply #27 posted 03/26/05 3:45am

batmanx

mzflash said:

I'd like to give a genuine Thank You to Jehovah and His Witnesses. You have been relentless in proclaiming your beliefs. Although we sometimes might not agree on specifics there is no greater gift than the gift that You have given me.

Last nite I received a call from my daughter who is serving active duty in the US Air Force. She told me that she just received an email stating that she is no longer on mobility status. Due to her separation from the armed forces in a few months, she will no longer be placed in a 'bucket' which can be deployed at anytime. I feel relief because now i know she won't be among those who go again. Yet until all soldiers are home, i know that there won't be true peace for any of us.

Because of the stance that JW's have taken on the issue of God's children serving in man's war i have taken a good look at my belief. Just as the new Army recuitment ad asks parents to encourage children to join the armed services out of pride and duty to our country....many are deceived as to the true nature of war.

The day she called to tell me that she was thinking of re-enlisting, i had ammunition ready gathered from these message boards. For all of the noble reasons she stated that she was considering leaving or staying: a good job, education and service to others, nothing compared to God's Word. The JW's interpretation of this rings true to me and i am grateful for the points you made. Some other religions skip this issue because they are brainwashed like others believing government propaganda. We are not here to fight each other and go to war. We are here to serve others and see that we are all brothers and sisters of one loving Lord.

Easter weekend means salvation to many. We remember Christ, the son of God who died for our sins so that we may spend eternity with Him. So I'd like to thank Jehovah for the many gifts He gives to us. And i'd like to thank the Jehovah's Witnesses for making His gifts known. Please post here if there is anything that You want to give thanks for.


rainbow rabbit rainbow
PS. Thanks also for the musical genius of Prince. We are all so proud to see Prince be recognized tonite when he recieves the NAACP award. rose
sun guitar


I think Jehovah should be praised and not the witnesses.

There are many people who are not Jehovah Witnesses and they love Jehovah with their whole heart, mind and soul and others like themselves.

So, I don't think you need to be a Jehovah's Witnesses to make such a stance.

Stop praising the witnesses, they are imperfect people.

Praise Jehovah the creator of all men instead.

Oh yeah...and Prince is a creation of Jehovah also, so stop praising the man, instead give Jehovah thanks for him.

Cheers,


BatmanX

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Reply #28 posted 03/26/05 4:02am

Rhondab

batmanx said:

mzflash said:

I'd like to give a genuine Thank You to Jehovah and His Witnesses. You have been relentless in proclaiming your beliefs. Although we sometimes might not agree on specifics there is no greater gift than the gift that You have given me.

Last nite I received a call from my daughter who is serving active duty in the US Air Force. She told me that she just received an email stating that she is no longer on mobility status. Due to her separation from the armed forces in a few months, she will no longer be placed in a 'bucket' which can be deployed at anytime. I feel relief because now i know she won't be among those who go again. Yet until all soldiers are home, i know that there won't be true peace for any of us.

Because of the stance that JW's have taken on the issue of God's children serving in man's war i have taken a good look at my belief. Just as the new Army recuitment ad asks parents to encourage children to join the armed services out of pride and duty to our country....many are deceived as to the true nature of war.

The day she called to tell me that she was thinking of re-enlisting, i had ammunition ready gathered from these message boards. For all of the noble reasons she stated that she was considering leaving or staying: a good job, education and service to others, nothing compared to God's Word. The JW's interpretation of this rings true to me and i am grateful for the points you made. Some other religions skip this issue because they are brainwashed like others believing government propaganda. We are not here to fight each other and go to war. We are here to serve others and see that we are all brothers and sisters of one loving Lord.

Easter weekend means salvation to many. We remember Christ, the son of God who died for our sins so that we may spend eternity with Him. So I'd like to thank Jehovah for the many gifts He gives to us. And i'd like to thank the Jehovah's Witnesses for making His gifts known. Please post here if there is anything that You want to give thanks for.


rainbow rabbit rainbow
PS. Thanks also for the musical genius of Prince. We are all so proud to see Prince be recognized tonite when he recieves the NAACP award. rose
sun guitar


I think Jehovah should be praised and not the witnesses.

There are many people who are not Jehovah Witnesses and they love Jehovah with their whole heart, mind and soul and others like themselves.

So, I don't think you need to be a Jehovah's Witnesses to make such a stance.

Stop praising the witnesses, they are imperfect people.

Praise Jehovah the creator of all men instead.

Oh yeah...and Prince is a creation of Jehovah also, so stop praising the man, instead give Jehovah thanks for him.

Cheers,


BatmanX



Well said Batman!!!!

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Reply #29 posted 03/26/05 4:22am

mzflash

batmanx said:

mzflash said:

I'd like to give a genuine Thank You to Jehovah and His Witnesses. You have been relentless in proclaiming your beliefs. Although we sometimes might not agree on specifics there is no greater gift than the gift that You have given me.

Last nite I received a call from my daughter who is serving active duty in the US Air Force. She told me that she just received an email stating that she is no longer on mobility status. Due to her separation from the armed forces in a few months, she will no longer be placed in a 'bucket' which can be deployed at anytime. I feel relief because now i know she won't be among those who go again. Yet until all soldiers are home, i know that there won't be true peace for any of us.

Because of the stance that JW's have taken on the issue of God's children serving in man's war i have taken a good look at my belief. Just as the new Army recuitment ad asks parents to encourage children to join the armed services out of pride and duty to our country....many are deceived as to the true nature of war.

The day she called to tell me that she was thinking of re-enlisting, i had ammunition ready gathered from these message boards. For all of the noble reasons she stated that she was considering leaving or staying: a good job, education and service to others, nothing compared to God's Word. The JW's interpretation of this rings true to me and i am grateful for the points you made. Some other religions skip this issue because they are brainwashed like others believing government propaganda. We are not here to fight each other and go to war. We are here to serve others and see that we are all brothers and sisters of one loving Lord.

Easter weekend means salvation to many. We remember Christ, the son of God who died for our sins so that we may spend eternity with Him. So I'd like to thank Jehovah for the many gifts He gives to us. And i'd like to thank the Jehovah's Witnesses for making His gifts known. Please post here if there is anything that You want to give thanks for.


rainbow rabbit rainbow
PS. Thanks also for the musical genius of Prince. We are all so proud to see Prince be recognized tonite when he recieves the NAACP award. rose
sun guitar


I think Jehovah should be praised and not the witnesses.

There are many people who are not Jehovah Witnesses and they love Jehovah with their whole heart, mind and soul and others like themselves.

So, I don't think you need to be a Jehovah's Witnesses to make such a stance.

Stop praising the witnesses, they are imperfect people.

Praise Jehovah the creator of all men instead.

Oh yeah...and Prince is a creation of Jehovah also, so stop praising the man, instead give Jehovah thanks for him.

Cheers,


BatmanX


Thanx BatmanX.
All things come from God and that is what my post was meant to be about. But i mentioned Jehovah and His Witnesses because they are the ones who brought that specific message heard by me on these boards. In praising Jehovah I was thanking Him for giving us caring people who dedicate their lives to getting the Word of God out there. And i was thanking Jehovah for the creative musical magician named Prince. Sorry You thought that i was praising mere men and women.

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