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SO U believe Animals have Souls, then What I want to know is....
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Not a soul like we do. That's just common sense.
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Depends what animals you are talking about. The Bible has passages that mention many different animals in many different situations. Without clearer indication on your part it would be difficult to say what the influence on Prince's sexual preference would be.
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i don't know. interesting question. but considering that humans can't agree among themselves on what is 'morally right', i don't see that we'll ever be able to establish any basis for determining an answer to this question.
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this is too silly to comment on.
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The Human is the closet thing next to God. Our “souls” are more god-like than that of an animal, plant or any other living entity (angels and arch angels are another story however.) We have a choice on determining our spiritual path.
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Eternaldragon said: Not a soul like we do. That's just common sense.
The bible mentions animals in heaven so I would guess they automatically go there. But that is just a guess based on animals mentioned in heaven. After the tribulation period God does construct a totally new and perfect Earth but without satan's influence so I would also guess animals would populate it too. (All will be peaceful and plant eaters again though.) Vegetarians rejoice.  poor plants. they're god's creatures as well and even were created before animals and humans  (you tell me which day exactly, I forgot )“Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.” Han Solo
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Eternaldragon said: After the tribulation period God does construct a totally new and perfect Earth but without satan's influence so I would also guess animals would populate it too. (All will be peaceful and plant eaters again though.)
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Eternaldragon said: Not a soul like we do. That's just common sense.
The bible mentions animals in heaven so I would guess they automatically go there. But that is just a guess based on animals mentioned in heaven. After the tribulation period God does construct a totally new and perfect Earth but without satan's influence so I would also guess animals would populate it too. (All will be peaceful and plant eaters again though.) Vegetarians rejoice. may i ask where in the bible it mentions animals in heaven? | |
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BKugotit said: Eternaldragon said: Not a soul like we do. That's just common sense.
The bible mentions animals in heaven so I would guess they automatically go there. But that is just a guess based on animals mentioned in heaven. After the tribulation period God does construct a totally new and perfect Earth but without satan's influence so I would also guess animals would populate it too. (All will be peaceful and plant eaters again though.) Vegetarians rejoice. may i ask where in the bible it mentions animals in heaven? Come on, everybody knows that all good doggies go to heaven. | |
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BKugotit said: Eternaldragon said: Not a soul like we do. That's just common sense.
The bible mentions animals in heaven so I would guess they automatically go there. But that is just a guess based on animals mentioned in heaven. After the tribulation period God does construct a totally new and perfect Earth but without satan's influence so I would also guess animals would populate it too. (All will be peaceful and plant eaters again though.) Vegetarians rejoice. may i ask where in the bible it mentions animals in heaven? Well, for one where Isaiah was speaking about the New heavens and Earth in Isaiah 65:25. "The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, the lion shall eat straw..." For another, a new heaven and Earth would have animals and beneficial insects just as it was before. "I am the way, the truth and the life; No man cometh unto the father, but by me." - Jesus of Nazareth (John 14:6) | |
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Eternaldragon said: Well, for one where Isaiah was speaking about the New heavens and Earth in Isaiah 65:25. "The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, the lion shall eat straw..."
Do you believe there will be houses, vineyards, fruit, dust and serpents in heaven, too? Or might this part be referring to the 'new earth'? "Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven."
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I don't think heaven is for animals, and I can't think of any scripture that supports that view. I think that would mean animals return to the dust, as it were. When the sunlight strikes raindrops in the air, they act as a prism and form a rainbow. The rainbow is a division of white light into many beautiful colors. Regardless of the day, I'm glad you were born. | |
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bUcKaRoO said: Eternaldragon said: Well, for one where Isaiah was speaking about the New heavens and Earth in Isaiah 65:25. "The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, the lion shall eat straw..."
Do you believe there will be houses, vineyards, fruit, dust and serpents in heaven, too? Or might this part be referring to the 'new earth'? Right. New heaven and Earth like I said in my post. Thunderbird: What will Jesus be riding on when he returns to Earth to conquer satan in Revelations 19:11? "I am the way, the truth and the life; No man cometh unto the father, but by me." - Jesus of Nazareth (John 14:6) | |
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Eternaldragon said: bUcKaRoO said: Do you believe there will be houses, vineyards, fruit, dust and serpents in heaven, too? Or might this part be referring to the 'new earth'? Right. New heaven and Earth like I said in my post. Thunderbird: What will Jesus be riding on when he returns to Earth to conquer satan in Revelations 19:11? did you ever think that maybe this is not litteral. Please look at Rev. 21:4; all of the those things do not happen in heaven they happen on earth. Also in Ecc. 1:4 i think it says that the world will not be destroyed. So the new heavens is already established since Jesus is in heaven and reigning as king, the new earth is still to come when Jesus takes action with his kingship and rids the world of the wicked and the righteous shall inherit what?...the earth. | |
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Eternaldragon said: bUcKaRoO said: Do you believe there will be houses, vineyards, fruit, dust and serpents in heaven, too? Or might this part be referring to the 'new earth'? Right. New heaven and Earth like I said in my post. Thunderbird: What will Jesus be riding on when he returns to Earth to conquer satan in Revelations 19:11? Revelation is a book heavy on symbolism. JWs don't believe Jesus will literally return 'riding a horse'. No more than the riders of the Apocalypse are to be understood this way. "Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven."
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Eternaldragon said: bUcKaRoO said: Do you believe there will be houses, vineyards, fruit, dust and serpents in heaven, too? Or might this part be referring to the 'new earth'? Right. New heaven and Earth like I said in my post. Thunderbird: What will Jesus be riding on when he returns to Earth to conquer satan in Revelations 19:11? All right, all right. Prove to me that it was a horse who died with its name written in the Lamb's Book of Life, and maybe you've got a point.  When the sunlight strikes raindrops in the air, they act as a prism and form a rainbow. The rainbow is a division of white light into many beautiful colors. Regardless of the day, I'm glad you were born. | |
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Thunderbird said: Eternaldragon said: Right. New heaven and Earth like I said in my post. Thunderbird: What will Jesus be riding on when he returns to Earth to conquer satan in Revelations 19:11? All right, all right. Prove to me that it was a horse who died with its name written in the Lamb's Book of Life, and maybe you've got a point. Hmm. Maybe I am too much of a freethinker... If God created animals at the beginning to live eternally and called it "very good" and then Isaiah 65 says the new heaven and Earth will be filled with animals living in peace.... To then say that heaven doesn't have any is a huge leap of logic. Does the Bible say animals have souls or don't they? "I am the way, the truth and the life; No man cometh unto the father, but by me." - Jesus of Nazareth (John 14:6) | |
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Eternaldragon said: If God created animals at the beginning to live eternally and called it "very good" and then Isaiah 65 says the new heaven and Earth will be filled with animals living in peace....
Yes, but where does it say that God created the animals? On earth or in heaven? Eternaldragon said: To then say that heaven doesn't have any is a huge leap of logic.
The Bible doesn't say any animals were created in heaven, though. Eternaldragon said: Does the Bible say animals have souls or don't they?
It says they were created as living souls, not with souls. "Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven."
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bUcKaRoO said: Eternaldragon said: Does the Bible say animals have souls or don't they?
It says they were created as living souls, not with souls. Where does it say that? When the sunlight strikes raindrops in the air, they act as a prism and form a rainbow. The rainbow is a division of white light into many beautiful colors. Regardless of the day, I'm glad you were born. | |
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Yes, Prince is gay! Haters travel in packs and they are offended or threatened by klhk, haters express intense hostility toward the subject of hate. Haters are annoyed and roll thier eyes when klhk is paid a compliment. ask yourself, are u a hater? | |
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klhk said: Yes, Prince is gay!
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Thunderbird said: bUcKaRoO said: It says they were created as living souls, not with souls. Where does it say that? Genesis 2:7 "And Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul." Ezekiel 18:4, 20 "The soul that is sinning - it itself will die." [Edited 3/23/05 14:44pm] Hebrews 4:12 "For the word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit, and of joints and [their] marrow, and [is] able to discern thoughts and intentions of [the] heart." | |
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