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The Bible and EARTHQUAKES! Is this a "SIGN" of the end approaching? MSNBC News Services
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jojofran said: In the Italian journal Il Piccolo, of October 8, 1978, Geo Malagoli observed:
“Our generation lives in a dangerous period of high seismic activity, as statistics show. In fact, during a period of 1,059 years (from 856 to 1914) reliable sources list only 24 major earthquakes causing 1,973,000 deaths. However, [in] recent disasters, we find that 1,600,000 persons have died in only 63 years, as a result of 43 earthquakes which occurred from 1915 to 1978. This dramatic increase further goes to emphasize another accepted fact—our generation is an unfortunate one in many ways.” Record keeping was not really top notch for most of that time period. Comparing modern earthquake data to that is completely specious and pointless. | |
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VoicesCarry said: jojofran said: In the Italian journal Il Piccolo, of October 8, 1978, Geo Malagoli observed:
“Our generation lives in a dangerous period of high seismic activity, as statistics show. In fact, during a period of 1,059 years (from 856 to 1914) reliable sources list only 24 major earthquakes causing 1,973,000 deaths. However, [in] recent disasters, we find that 1,600,000 persons have died in only 63 years, as a result of 43 earthquakes which occurred from 1915 to 1978. This dramatic increase further goes to emphasize another accepted fact—our generation is an unfortunate one in many ways.” Record keeping was not really top notch for most of that time period. Comparing modern earthquake data to that is completely specious and pointless. Those are your only thoughts? Okay. | |
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jojofran said: VoicesCarry said: Record keeping was not really top notch for most of that time period. Comparing modern earthquake data to that is completely specious and pointless. Those are your only thoughts? Okay. Well, I'm not Christian. What am I supposed to think? Completely ridiculous piffle to me. | |
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Seriously though, people, whatever you believe, this is a tragedy. 8,500 dead was the last figure I heard quoted.
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bUcKaRoO said: Seriously though, people, whatever you believe, this is a tragedy. 8,500 dead was the last figure I heard quoted.
Appaling. 10.000 according to the dutch news and several thousand missing | |
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...and have you seen what's going on in Israel during the last three months? The Sanhedrin is back together after almost 2000 years (in preparation for a new temple and the coming messiah), a marriage took place on the Temple Mount (the first in almost 2000 years), water is now pouring from the Temple Mount in preparation for a new priesthood, and they just had a water libations ceremony a couple days ago on the Temple Mount. And they once again marched around with the cornerstones to be laid for the third temple. Not to mention that Arafat is dead and Sharon says he's willing to make some big compromises for peace.
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Some people really need to get a grip on reality. This is just scaremongering. | |
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axlfilth said: Some people really need to get a grip on reality. This is just scaremongering.
So in your eyes your God wipes out thousands of innocent people just to signify "the end"? Hmmm..how loving. There's thousands dead and missing, and all you can do is speculate whether your God is trying to tell us that the end is near? That's just sickeningly thoughtless. Where did you get the idea that God is doing it? Earthquakes are the result of tectonic activity, not God. It's meant to be a sign. "Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven."
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axlfilth said: Some people really need to get a grip on reality. This is just scaremongering.
So in your eyes your God wipes out thousands of innocent people just to signify "the end"? Hmmm..how loving. There's thousands dead and missing, and all you can do is speculate whether your God is trying to tell us that the end is near? That's just sickeningly thoughtless. To be totally and unequivocally honest with you Axlfilth, I have said nothing at all. Let me clarify... I am only asking for the thoughts of those who are interested in the issue. | |
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jojofran said: axlfilth said: Some people really need to get a grip on reality. This is just scaremongering.
So in your eyes your God wipes out thousands of innocent people just to signify "the end"? Hmmm..how loving. There's thousands dead and missing, and all you can do is speculate whether your God is trying to tell us that the end is near? That's just sickeningly thoughtless. To be totally and unequivocally honest with you Axlfilth, I have said nothing at all. Let me clarify... I am only asking for the thoughts of those who are interested in the issue. What issue? | |
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VoicesCarry said: jojofran said: To be totally and unequivocally honest with you Axlfilth, I have said nothing at all. Let me clarify... I am only asking for the thoughts of those who are interested in the issue. What issue? earthquake.... earthquake? EARTHQUAKE!!!!! Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. | |
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sosgemini said: VoicesCarry said: What issue? earthquake.... earthquake? EARTHQUAKE!!!!! ![]() | |
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VoicesCarry said: jojofran said: Those are your only thoughts? Okay. Well, I'm not Christian. What am I supposed to think? Completely ridiculous piffle to me. The bible predicts earthquakes? The bible also says the earth was made in the span of a week, and eating pork and chicken on the same plate is an abomination against God. Less prophecy and more emphasis on the message of love, me thinks. My take on that horrible earthquake may sound a little simplistic, but I think it has something to do with plate techtonics. | |
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The end is nigh! Repent! Repent! Repent!
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Shapeshifter said: The end is nigh! Repent! Repent! Repent!
... ah fuck! Just spilled mah beer. that's it! you're goin straight to hell!! (disclaimer: for anyone who wants to try and pick at this post, this is only a joke. i repeat, this is only a joke. i do not believe in the traditional "hell" where "sinners" go to burn in torment forever. i repeat, this in only a joke.) | |
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AsianBomb777 said: The bible predicts earthquakes?
More to the point, Jesus predicts earthquakes - part of a composite 'sign' which would herald the end: "For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places." -Matthew 24:7 AsianBomb777 said: The bible also says the earth was made in the span of a week, and eating pork and chicken on the same plate is an abomination against God.
The Bible's creative 'week' wasn't a literal 168 hours, as the context makes clear. A 'day' in creation is of indeterminate length; the term was used to describe a passage of time. Also, under the Law (which isn't binding for Christians), certain foods were proscribed as unclean. This was for a number of reasons, mainly hygiene. Remember that, at the time, the Israelites were nomadic desert-dwellers. AsianBomb said: Less prophecy and more emphasis on the message of love, me thinks.
The reality is that Jesus came, not just to preach love and a measure of tolerance, but to warn about the end of the world and preach the good news about the coming Kingdom of God, which would replace it. "Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven."
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1 Thessalonians 5:2 says that the Lord will come like a thief in the night. Matthew 24:36 says that "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." (KJV) Revelations says that before the end times, Israel would become a country again, so we've seen tons of predictions since 1948.
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bUcKaRoO said: Also, under the Law (which isn't binding for Christians)
So why do so many use the Law to prescute gays? or did somewhere only certain parts of the law get lifted it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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ehuffnsd said: bUcKaRoO said: Also, under the Law (which isn't binding for Christians)
So why do so many use the Law to prescute gays? or did somewhere only certain parts of the law get lifted You'd have to ask them. As for the Law; yes, most of it was 'lifted' - especially the dietary restrictions and sacrifices, that sort of thing. Yet the NT says: "Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." -1 Corinthians 6:9,10 and "For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: that ye abstain from things sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication; from which if ye keep yourselves, it shall be well with you. Fare ye well." -Acts 15:28,29 "Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven."
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bUcKaRoO said: AsianBomb777 said: The bible predicts earthquakes?
More to the point, Jesus predicts earthquakes - part of a composite 'sign' which would herald the end: "For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places." -Matthew 24:7 The Bible's creative 'week' wasn't a literal 168 hours, as the context makes clear. A 'day' in creation is of indeterminate length; the term was used to describe a passage of time. Also, under the Law (which isn't binding for Christians), certain foods were proscribed as unclean. This was for a number of reasons, mainly hygiene. Remember that, at the time, the Israelites were nomadic desert-dwellers. AsianBomb said: Less prophecy and more emphasis on the message of love, me thinks.
The reality is that Jesus came, not just to preach love and a measure of tolerance, but to warn about the end of the world and preach the good news about the coming Kingdom of God, which would replace it. The theory that it wasn't a literal week is speculation. That's one of the things that is frequently used to explain the ages of some of the people in the first testement (forgive my spelling), but if you read "101 Myths of the Bible" alot of those time discrepencies are explained. Also, the idea that certain foods where hygenically unclean doesn't explain why it would be viewed as an abomination against God. Sheesh, I've lost interest in this thread already. Sorry guys, I won't be dropping in on this one anymore--I just realized I got hooked in. [Edited 12/27/04 15:00pm] | |
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bUcKaRoO said: ehuffnsd said: So why do so many use the Law to prescute gays? or did somewhere only certain parts of the law get lifted You'd have to ask them. As for the Law; yes, most of it was 'lifted' - especially the dietary restrictions and sacrifices, that sort of thing. Yet the NT says: "Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." -1 Corinthians 6:9,10 and "For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: that ye abstain from things sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication; from which if ye keep yourselves, it shall be well with you. Fare ye well." -Acts 15:28,29 the averege age for loss of viriginity in the US 16. so i think the whole country isn't going to see the Kingdom of God... or are they foregiven cause they are straight? it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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AsianBoi777 said: The theory that it wasn't a literal week is speculation. That's one of the things that is frequently used to explain the ages of some of the people in the first testement (forgive my spelling),
Not speculation, at all - the Bible itself tells us the creative 'days' weren't literal. At Genesis 2:4, we read; "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens," Here, the six creative days - collectively - are referred to as a 'day'. It's clearly not literal. Oh, and the lengthy life-spans of Adam, Methuselah, etc.? Simple. They were much nearer perfection back then. Further to this are Paul's words, at Hebrews 4:9-11, where he refers to God's 'day of rest', begun after the completion of earthly creation, as still in progress. By Paul's day, that 'day of rest' had already lasted 4,000 years! AsianBoi777 said: Also, the idea that certain foods where hygenically unclean doesn't explain why it would be viewed as an abomination against God.
No, the unclean foods were to be an abomination for whoever eat them. Their uncleanness was with regard to food or sacrificial purposes. If you like, they were the Israelite equivalent of the forbidden fruit in Eden. In a similar way, abstention from these was the Israelite nation's sign of obedience to God. [Edited 12/27/04 16:16pm] [Edited 12/27/04 16:16pm] "Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven."
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ehuffnsd said: the averege age for loss of viriginity in the US 16. so i think the whole country isn't going to see the Kingdom of God... or are they foregiven cause they are straight?
Certainly not! Fornication is fornication. Lights out.. "Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven."
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bUcKaRoO said: Further to this are Paul's words, at Hebrews 4:9-11, where he refers to God's 'day of rest', begun after the completion of earthly creation, as still in progress. By Paul's day, that 'day of rest' had already lasted 4,000 years! the Earth is over 5 billion years old i don't remember if it's this thread or the similar one... but the reason more poeple have died or there have been more recorded earthquakes is that there are more than 6billion people on Earth now... and we are more spread and more literate than in the past so we can record these events better it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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So many non-religious folk responding in a negative way? I really did think that folks would see a corolation to these versus. Maybe television and movies have deadened our senses to the point where we can no longer clearly identify catastrophy and anomally. Twenty-three thousand people have perished in one day and that is just the current figure. Actually people scoffing at the idea of Bible predictions and prophecy is nothing new. I know Jehovah didn't cause this event to happen but it reminds me of what I used to think regarding the account of Noah and the Flood, "How could all those people be so blind to his warning? How could SO MANY PEOPLE just not take "any" note? Even though God "did" cause the flood their was warning given. I don't know about any one else on this thread but I was mortified at the loss of life to the point of tears. Prayerfully, Jehovah will remember all people that have suffered and lost their lives in such tragic events. So many of the prophecies fortold by Jesus are happening in our day that it is beyond my comprehension why some people don't at least consider the notion of authenticity and corolation. | |
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