Why we lost in two sentences.

Here is story from the AP that ass kissingly talks about Bush's victory (liberal media, where are you?). Anyway, it makes a very good point in two short sentences of why we lost.

Young voters didn't increase their turnout as Democrats had hoped. Neither did blacks or union members, two keys to the party's base.

What the fuck! Apparently, people chose to die? WHy the fuck was P.Diddy, who people aren't even that found of, preaching to kids and minorities to vote. It didn't work! Now I really hate political celebrities. They failed miserably and it was a big mistake. Democrats need to get cracking on getting people to the polls for the next election...and I'm talking about 2006!


Anyway, here is the full story. I'm sure Bush wins will love it. Not quite as obivous as Coulter but it sure praises Bush and slams Kerry.

Here's my two sentences:


The thing is, young democratic voter's DID increase in their turnout, but so did EVERY OTHER voting group in America. It just unearthed MORE OF THE SAME - ESPECIALLY the masses of conservative religious fundamentalists who make up the bulky underbelly of America.


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well- I said this before - but

1st sentence--- Dems selected wrong man in the primaries- Kerry is too liberal for the midwest voters !

2nd sentence-- Florida and Ohio went the wrong way

Young people did increase their turnout.

The problem is that so did everybody else. In other words, young voters didn't increase what percentage of the electorate they constituted.

The real reason we lost isn't just that young people didn't vote; it's that the right wing successfully used their wedge issues to get social conservatives to come out in large numbers.

P Diddy and Russel Simmons registered 20 million new voters. Maybe some of them didn't vote. Maybe he didn't tell them who to vote for. Maybe they all lived in New York. He still deserves a little credit, don't you think?

VinnyM27 said:

pkidwell said:

I don't have an issue with what Diddy or Russell did. I think its silly to have a negative attitude towards them when it should be towards those who didn't vote. The tried to mobilize a community that felt disenfranchized so how can that be wrong.


I'm curious to know how they know the race/gender of those who vote. I can't remember (wayyyyy back) in 1988 when I registered if there was anything to state if I'm female or black. So how do they get those numbers? I can see how they would get your age.


Found a different take on the youth vote:


Just before midnight EST on election night, the Associated Press moved a story on the wire titled “2004 Not the Breakout Year for Youth Vote After All.” State tallies were still coming in, progressive voters were losing morale and headlines like these were the proverbial icing on the cake for many young organizers.

In a San Jose Mercury News article released the following morning, “Youth Vote is Sign of Hope for the Future” journalist Sue Hutchison responded with anecdotal evidence.

“One look at the throngs of students barely out of their teens who were standing in those lines,” she wrote, “and it was tough to swallow [the] poll that said people ages 18-24 made up fewer than one in 10 voters – about the same as in 2000.”

Hutchinson’s gut response, like that of many voters, organizers and observers, was dead on. The implications of the exit polls were in direct contrast to her experience and, it turns out, they were only part of the story.

Now that some of the smoke has cleared and the data has been crunched, it's clear that 2004 was, in fact, an amazing year for young voter participation. Whereas only 42 percent of 18-29 year-olds had voted in 2000, a whopping 51 percent showed up at the polls this year, making for a 9-point increase. The catch? Everyone else came out in record numbers too.

Hans Reimer, director of Rock the Vote, describes the youth turnout as “exceeding all expectations.” He points out that the percentage of youth who came out to vote this year was four points higher than in 1992, a number he says is “phenomenal.”

“1992 was a similar election” Reimer continues. “There were really sharp issues; there was a candidate who reached out to young people; there was tremendous interest in voting. It was also the first year of the MTV/Rock The Vote effort. Voting was part of the social movement.”

From the looks of many college campuses in swing states this fall, you would have thought that voting was the social movement. And as Mattie Weiss, the Midwest director of the League of Young Voters puts it, this was evident on Tuesday in Minneapolis, Minn.

Voter turnout, she says was “huge.” Minnesota has same-day registration, so there were 80 League volunteers out reminding students and other youth to vote, handing out voter guides and making sure they were prepared.

“We had three shifts planned to go out and make sure people knew what to bring to the polls,” says Weiss. “But we had to change our strategy when, at noon, we discovered that 50-75 percent of the people we were talking to had already voted.”


By the end of the day, the League and the Young Voter Project had spoken to an estimated 100,000 young people. And by 5 p.m., some 70 percent of city residents had cast a vote.

According to CIRCLE, youth turnout was especially high – often as high as 64 percent – in some battleground states. In addition, young voters favored Kerry by a 10 percent margin over George Bush nationally, while in many key states it was even higher. In Pennsylvania, for instance, 32 percent more youth voted for John Kerry than did for Bush.

Kim Teplitzky, a Temple University student who spent the last several months doing GOTV work in Philadelphia, Pa. describes Nov. 2 as “the most active day of my life.”

A lack of campus polling places didn’t keep Temple students from voting. Teplitzky says that, like on many campuses, student organizers were shuttling 20-30 students at a time in vans to the polling places.

“One of our designated polls had the longest lines in Philadelphia. The last person to vote in the city” she adds, ”was a temple student.”

Alex, the Madison-based Rock the Vote Street Team member, writing in the RTV Blog on Tuesday, reported that kids on his campus were calling this the “The Hip Election.”

If that’s the case, and this elections was “hip” it raised larger questions about the future of youth engagement.


Reimer says the challenge now “is to take the issues that young people are voting on and sustain them."




T. Eve Greenaway, 28, is the editor of WireTap.
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1) "The bigger the lie, the more it will be believed." - Joseph Goebbels
2) Go figure.....

You need two sentences? Try one:

Kerry was a rubbish candidate.
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Shapeshifter said:

yep. 40% of americans didn't bother to vote. maybe people were too busy doing something more important? (i don't have time to vote so don't bug me man, 'survivor' is on in ten minutes and i'm so fat it takes me that long just to stand up and waddle to the frig)

unfortunately, the people who tend to lean toward a liberal point of view are the same people who do not care to make rules by which other people should live. the conservatives are the ones who want everyone dancing to their tune. usually this means the connies mobilize more effectively to vote.

but i'd hoped this year would be different, and we'd se a surprising turn-out from minorities and the 20-30 age range.

guess there must have been something way cool on TV, man.

Another thing to be said is that black people in some state are erased from voting lists and some black and student were intimidated by Republican pressure groups at the polls. I read schocking stories yesterday.

with all the efforts the exit polls statements and all i can't believe this election is clean.
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mrdespues said:

Why we lost in three words:

IGNORANT ORGANIZED RELIGION

Peace,
JD

Shapeshifter said:

Thunderbird said:

mrdespues said:

...conservative religious fundamentalists who make up the bulky underbelly of America.

"Heart." "Heart" of America. That's what America is, except the east and west coasters who think they're European.

I really don't think that anyone voted for Bush to spite the huge list if idiot celebrities stumping for Kerry, but I bet it sure felt good to do so.

klaatu said:

P DIDDY DON"T KNOW JACK SH!T ABOUT POLITICS


If P diddy ran for a political office i am sure his campaign would be sampled speaks of past politians... just like his music....


I want to hear him repeat this one ... " READ MY LIPS >>>>> NO NEW TAXES"

He would Fuk it up and do something like "READ MY LIPS >>> NO NEW FAXES,FAXES FAXES FAXES" * p diddy looks back stage* yells at the boy he hired the day before... get that cheeaseburger out your damn mouth and get off the turn table.
the record is skipping.

A reporter in the crowd: NO NEW FAXES????? can u elaborate on that Mr Diddy...


UH UH yea we iz trying to save some trees ...


WHAT A FOOL

1. Failure to persuade people's hearts minds. Kerry is not decisive.
2. George Soros, MoveOn.org, Hollywood, Old Europe, the United Nations, MTV,
liberalism, the mainstream media, Dan Rather, Bruce Springsteen, and
terrorists everywhere.

anbesol said:

Rhondab said:

anbesol said:

P DIDDY DON"T KNOW JACK SH!T ABOUT POLITICS


If P diddy ran for a political office i am sure his campaign would be sampled speaks of past politians... just like his music....


I want to hear him repeat this one ... " READ MY LIPS >>>>> NO NEW TAXES"

He would Fuk it up and do something like "READ MY LIPS >>> NO NEW FAXES,FAXES FAXES FAXES" * p diddy looks back stage* yells at the boy he hired the day before... get that cheeaseburger out your damn mouth and get off the turn table.
the record is skipping.

A reporter in the crowd: NO NEW FAXES????? can u elaborate on that Mr Diddy...


UH UH yea we iz trying to save some trees ...


WHAT A FOOL

Diddy has ran more successful businesses than our President. Diddy isn't a dumb man.

demore said: