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Flashpointe

Is John Kerry or George Bush the Antichrist? Just a thought:

Some people are really freaked out about the times we live in, including me. And, many Christian believers are wondering about the end times and Antichrist. But, I want to prove to you that we really shouldn't be worried about anything except knowing Jesus better and having faith, because anyone could be Antichrist. I will give you an example. I thought that Bush could possibly be THE Antichrist. Granted, his policies and decisions do defy Christ, but, if you look at Kerry, he has all the making of being one himself:

The Bible explains Antichrist as a person who is endowed with all the same traits and similarities of Jesus, but will instead obtain all of his power from Satan. Here are the traits:

The Antichrist will disguise himself as an "angel of light", or a lamb- in other words, kind and peaceful. (Kerry appears peaceful, but is a lifetime member of a secret society that is very strangely mystic, some say with Satanic roots, called "The Order of Skull and Bones", which propels people of wealth into power and greater wealth- George W. Bush is also a member).

The Antichrist will mimic Christ. Therefore, as Jesus rode into the Holy Place on a donkey, a political leader with the symbol of a donkey would not be far fetched.

The Antichrist will be of Hebrew origin. (the scripture says that the Antichrist will come from the Jewish bloodline- the "synagogue of Satan" which Jesus also says not to take literally as to judge Jewish people, but as a warning specifically about the Antichrist.)

John Kerry is Jewish. (His real name would be John Kohn. Kerry's uncle and his dad changed from the original surname due to religious persecution in Austria and later converted to Roman Catholicism. But, his entire family before that all practiced Judaism)

The Antichrist will worship differently than his relatives before him. (The Bible says that "He will serve a God which his fathers did not know". Roman Catholicism is very different from Judaism. Many associate the Roman Catholic church as a hybrid polytheistic religion that was created from the blend of the paganism in the Ottoman empire with the views of progressive Christianity at that time.)

The Antichrist would unite the world and bring a temporary peace. (Much of what Kerry speaks of is in complete support of bringing unity to the world).

The Antichrist, and the Antichrist's government and army, would be from a figurative nation called "Babylon". (The Babylon of Revelation was figurative. Babylon of Revelation will be a nation that would be the wealthiest, strongest, most independent nation on Earth in which the central finance would arise, and the world would seek to do business with).

Babylon sought to conquer the world in the name of "freedom and unity" or "peace and security". (1Thessalonians 5:1-5 states:
1Now, brothers, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
4But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. 5You are all sons of the light and sons of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. )

But, the Antichrist ends up not meaning what he said- (at the 3.5 year mark of his time in power, he is suddenly struck with a "deadly wound" and recovers. Shortly thereafter, he turns on the people and makes them take a ration mark in their head or arm, and begins to annihilate all people who don't accept the mark, and starts persecuting true believers in God the Creator, especially Christian believers.)


So, let's hope that Kerry is NOT the Antichrist, and that he actually means what he says, and the same goes with Bush. If not, we are in for some serious shiz-nit.

Peace,
JD
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Reply #1 posted 10/23/04 10:25am

VoicesCarry



Qué?

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Reply #2 posted 10/23/04 10:28am

Cloudbuster

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VoicesCarry said:



Qué?


Perfectly reasonable response. lol

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Reply #3 posted 10/23/04 11:38am

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Flashpointe said:


The Antichrist will mimic Christ. Therefore, as Jesus rode into the Holy Place on a donkey, a political leader with the symbol of a donkey would not be far fetched.


Y'know, there was a thread about Bush being "assinated".....
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"Everyone is crying out for peace. None is crying out for justice...." - Peter Tosh
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Reply #4 posted 10/23/04 11:54am

Flashpointe

I saw that thread. EP is the man, tho.

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Reply #5 posted 10/23/04 2:36pm

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Although there has been much effort in the past to identify "the antichrist" with an individual, such as Pompey, Nero, or Muhammad (this latter person being suggested by Pope Innocent III in 1213 C.E.), or with a specific organization, as in the Protestant view of "the antichrist" as applying to the papacy, John's inspired statements show the term to be broad in its application, embracing all those who deny that "Jesus is the Christ," and who deny that Jesus is the Son of God who came "in the flesh."-1Jo 2:22; 4:2, 3; 2Jo 7, NE, NIV; compare Joh 8:42, 48, 49; 9:22.

Pick your translation.
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2 John 7 :
For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who don't confess that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the Antichrist. WEB

For many deceivers are gone forth into the world, 'even' they that confess not that Jesus Christ cometh in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist. ASV

Because a number of false teachers have gone out into the world, who do not give witness that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. Such a one is a false teacher and Antichrist. BBE

For many deceivers have gone out into the world, they who do not confess Jesus Christ coming in flesh this is the deceiver and the antichrist. DBY

For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. KJV

For many deceivers have entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver, and an antichrist. WBS

For many deceivers have gone out into the world--men who do not acknowledge Jesus as Christ who has come in human nature. Such a one is 'the deceiver' and 'the anti-Christ.' WEY

because many leading astray did enter into the world, who are not confessing Jesus Christ coming in flesh; this one is he who is leading astray, and the antichrist. YLT

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There is no ONE PERSON who is the antichrist. Any who fit the desciptions from the scriptures can be part of 'the antichrist'.

Every single decision we make, every breath we draw, opens some doors and closes many others. Most of them we don't notice. Some we do.
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Reply #6 posted 10/23/04 4:19pm

mrdespues

What a load of horseshit.

This is the third time I have posted this today:

46% of Americans believe we are living in the "end times".

'Nuff said.

source: Bill Moyers, PBS, last night.

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Reply #7 posted 10/24/04 12:13am

demore

I still believe it's Bill Clinton. If Kerry gets elected everyone who is not a christian should get right with God. Kerry is going to put Clinton in the UN where he will be elected U.N. secretary-general.

Neither Bush nor Kerry has the blind following that Clinton has, so if the end is coming soon. I have to choose Clinton as the anti-christ.

Louie Gohmert Speaker of the House 2011
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Reply #8 posted 10/24/04 12:14am

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rolleyes End times my ass.....Somebody's been sniffing too much glue.

We are stardust. We are golden.

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Reply #9 posted 10/24/04 12:29am

demore

mrdespues said:

What a load of horseshit.

This is the third time I have posted this today:

46% of Americans believe we are living in the "end times".

'Nuff said.

source: Bill Moyers, PBS, last night.

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As a fellow Marshallite I will say that Bill Moyers is full of it.

Louie Gohmert Speaker of the House 2011
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Reply #10 posted 10/24/04 3:30pm

ElectricPurple

The Antichrist will mimic Christ. Therefore, as Jesus rode into the Holy Place on a donkey, a political leader with the symbol of a donkey would not be far fetched.






attt hemm....


repulican are elephants
democrats are donkeys.


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Reply #11 posted 10/24/04 3:35pm

axlfilth

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wacky

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Reply #12 posted 10/24/04 11:49pm

demore

meow85 said:

rolleyes End times my ass.....Somebody's been sniffing too much glue.


We've been in the end times for over 2000 years.

Louie Gohmert Speaker of the House 2011
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Reply #13 posted 10/25/04 12:17am

CHAOSMAN87

believe it or not I have been really thinking about this

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Reply #14 posted 10/25/04 2:54am

meow85

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demore said:

meow85 said:

rolleyes End times my ass.....Somebody's been sniffing too much glue.


We've been in the end times for over 2000 years.



Well Armageddon's taking it's damn time then.

We are stardust. We are golden.

Feb. 12th -28th: Two weeks of corporate and nationalistic dick-stroking in the guise of a sporting event. I can not wait.
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Reply #15 posted 10/25/04 3:01am

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Flashpointe said:

Some people are really freaked out about the times we live in, including me. And, many Christian believers are wondering about the end times and Antichrist. But, I want to prove to you that we really shouldn't be worried about anything except knowing Jesus better and having faith, because anyone could be Antichrist. I will give you an example. I thought that Bush could possibly be THE Antichrist. Granted, his policies and decisions do defy Christ, but, if you look at Kerry, he has all the making of being one himself:

The Bible explains Antichrist as a person who is endowed with all the same traits and similarities of Jesus, but will instead obtain all of his power from Satan. Here are the traits:

The Antichrist will disguise himself as an "angel of light", or a lamb- in other words, kind and peaceful. (Kerry appears peaceful, but is a lifetime member of a secret society that is very strangely mystic, some say with Satanic roots, called "The Order of Skull and Bones", which propels people of wealth into power and greater wealth- George W. Bush is also a member).

The Antichrist will mimic Christ. Therefore, as Jesus rode into the Holy Place on a donkey, a political leader with the symbol of a donkey would not be far fetched.

The Antichrist will be of Hebrew origin. (the scripture says that the Antichrist will come from the Jewish bloodline- the "synagogue of Satan" which Jesus also says not to take literally as to judge Jewish people, but as a warning specifically about the Antichrist.)

John Kerry is Jewish. (His real name would be John Kohn. Kerry's uncle and his dad changed from the original surname due to religious persecution in Austria and later converted to Roman Catholicism. But, his entire family before that all practiced Judaism)

The Antichrist will worship differently than his relatives before him. (The Bible says that "He will serve a God which his fathers did not know". Roman Catholicism is very different from Judaism. Many associate the Roman Catholic church as a hybrid polytheistic religion that was created from the blend of the paganism in the Ottoman empire with the views of progressive Christianity at that time.)

The Antichrist would unite the world and bring a temporary peace. (Much of what Kerry speaks of is in complete support of bringing unity to the world).

The Antichrist, and the Antichrist's government and army, would be from a figurative nation called "Babylon". (The Babylon of Revelation was figurative. Babylon of Revelation will be a nation that would be the wealthiest, strongest, most independent nation on Earth in which the central finance would arise, and the world would seek to do business with).

Babylon sought to conquer the world in the name of "freedom and unity" or "peace and security". (1Thessalonians 5:1-5 states:
1Now, brothers, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
4But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. 5You are all sons of the light and sons of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. )

But, the Antichrist ends up not meaning what he said- (at the 3.5 year mark of his time in power, he is suddenly struck with a "deadly wound" and recovers. Shortly thereafter, he turns on the people and makes them take a ration mark in their head or arm, and begins to annihilate all people who don't accept the mark, and starts persecuting true believers in God the Creator, especially Christian believers.)


So, let's hope that Kerry is NOT the Antichrist, and that he actually means what he says, and the same goes with Bush. If not, we are in for some serious shiz-nit.

Peace,
JD
[Edited 10/23/04 10:28am]


did I leave my keys in here?

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Reply #16 posted 10/25/04 4:10am

subhuman09

I think we can all agree that Celine Dion is the undisputed Antichrist ladies and gents.

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Reply #17 posted 10/25/04 5:45am

Rhondab

Interesting that the title of the thread is about Bush and Kerry and most of the focus is on Kerry....


both men are faulty and you probably can find whatever you want....if you look hard enough....


and the crap about Clinton...disbelief no one is "worshipping" clinton.....


donkeys....lawd...so the democrats are the party of the anti-christ....hmm


There were websites that said Reagan was the anti christ, clinton and bush.....lawdy....how about just praying...not worrying about the anti christ. He loses...remember. thumbs up!

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Reply #18 posted 10/25/04 6:46am

Flashpointe

Rhon, my focus was on Kerry on this one because no one has ever said anything about this- I just assumed most everyone has heard about all the Bush-Antichrist comparisons.

But, this thread was meant to be a discussion- not that I am that worried about it. I, like you, believe that I have nothing to worry about, because I know that I am going to a better place. I just wanted the people on here to start thinking a little and to make sure that they pay attention, so the wool don't get pulled over their eyes, no matter who the candidate. I don't believe fully that either one are THE Antichrist, but both have their hidden opinions that don't square with the teachings of Jesus.

Peace,
JD

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Reply #19 posted 10/25/04 7:38am

Rhondab

Flashpointe said:

Rhon, my focus was on Kerry on this one because no one has ever said anything about this- I just assumed most everyone has heard about all the Bush-Antichrist comparisons.

But, this thread was meant to be a discussion- not that I am that worried about it. I, like you, believe that I have nothing to worry about, because I know that I am going to a better place. I just wanted the people on here to start thinking a little and to make sure that they pay attention, so the wool don't get pulled over their eyes, no matter who the candidate. I don't believe fully that either one are THE Antichrist, but both have their hidden opinions that don't square with the teachings of Jesus.

Peace,
JD



thumbs up! I keep forgetting that "flashpointe" is you JD.

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