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ea1313

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Controversy listed as #1 Essential Electro Funk album in SPIN 09/10

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Small blurb about Controversy:

Months before the release of Prince's most underrated album, a lucky few had their gonads rerouted by Dirty Mind. Which might explain why Controversy is still regularly shrugged off as a mere rehash of its predecessor, thus ignoring what a Devoluted little new-wave funk record it is- from the landmark title track to the wacky protest toss-off "Annie Christian," his eccentricity would never again seem so effortless.

(I'm honoring Controversy now as I type this, released the year I was born!)

The rest of the list is:

2. Zapp -Zapp II

3. Jonzun Crew - Lost In Space

4. Various Artists - Body Moves: Electric Boogie

5. Cameo - She's Strange

6. Mantronix - The Album

7. Chromeo - Presents Un Joli Mix Pour Toi

8. Bigg Robb - Jerri Curl Muzic

- I don't have any of these other ones. Anyone have opinions on them?

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Reply #1 posted 08/27/10 9:51pm

CocoRock

BOOLSHITE!!!

1999 should be on that list instead.

And who makes a top EIGHT list? disbelief
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Reply #2 posted 08/27/10 9:59pm

robinhood

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#1 Essential Electro Funk album yes

this too shall pass
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Reply #3 posted 08/27/10 10:07pm

ea1313

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- well, they did get the part right about it being underrated and placing it as #1. I think 1999 is too obvious a choice, but I do believe it is better.

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Reply #4 posted 08/27/10 10:21pm

murph

CocoRock said:

BOOLSHITE!!! 1999 should be on that list instead. And who makes a top EIGHT list? disbelief

The operative word is "funk"....I don't think anyone would ever say Controversy is a better/ more ambitious album than 1999....But the"funk" is stronger on Controversy than it is on 1999...Excluding "DMSR" and "Lady Cab Driver" and All The Critics," 1999 is essentially a rock-pop release...And yeah, it's a brilliant one...

But I see Spin's vision....

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Reply #5 posted 08/28/10 6:49am

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Yeah people are finally getting it, that album is truly funky, look at the tracks Controversy, Private Joy, Lets Work (It does make u climb the walls) and Jack u Off, this is a funky album and then you have the excellence of Do Me Baby and Sexuality. It was a wise decision.

So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time
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Reply #6 posted 08/28/10 6:57am

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murph said:

CocoRock said:

BOOLSHITE!!! 1999 should be on that list instead. And who makes a top EIGHT list? disbelief

The operative word is "funk"....I don't think anyone would ever say Controversy is a better/ more ambitious album than 1999....But the"funk" is stronger on Controversy than it is on 1999...Excluding "DMSR" and "Lady Cab Driver" and All The Critics," 1999 is essentially a rock-pop release...And yeah, it's a brilliant one...

But I see Spin's vision....

The only problem is that you cannot exclude the songs you mentioned. 1999 is not a straight up rock-pop release. Hell, "DMSR" alone is one of the funkiest songs of all time.

"New Power slide...."
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Reply #7 posted 08/28/10 4:06pm

CocoRock

ea1313 said:

- well, they did get the part right about it being underrated and placing it as #1. I think 1999 is too obvious a choice, but I do believe it is better.


Yeah, except being underrated (which it is) isn't criteria for being on the "list". Prince truly locked in on the Minneapolis Sound with 1999. That sound IS electro-funk. Just sayin'.
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Reply #8 posted 08/28/10 4:14pm

CocoRock

murph said:



CocoRock said:


BOOLSHITE!!! 1999 should be on that list instead. And who makes a top EIGHT list? disbelief




The operative word is "funk"....I don't think anyone would ever say Controversy is a better/ more ambitious album than 1999....But the"funk" is stronger on Controversy than it is on 1999...Excluding "DMSR" and "Lady Cab Driver" and All The Critics," 1999 is essentially a rock-pop release...And yeah, it's a brilliant one...



But I see Spin's vision....



Murph, I've seen and respect your post game here on the org, but I'm'a have disagree with you on this one.

While the title song, (parts of) Sexuality, Private Joy and Let's Work are indeed fonkee, that's only four songs. That said, only a coupla those jams are "electro" enough to qualify, which I believe to be the operative word, as it comes BEFORE "funk" (like ingredients).

But I too see Spin's vision, even if the rest the list is a lil' questionable.
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Reply #9 posted 08/28/10 4:21pm

CocoRock

Huggiebear said:

Yeah people are finally getting it, that album is truly funky, look at the tracks Controversy, Private Joy, Lets Work (It does make u climb the walls) and Jack u Off, this is a funky album and then you have the excellence of Do Me Baby and Sexuality. It was a wise decision.


While excellent to be sure, most of the the songs you mentioned aren't exactly ELECTRO.
I recall P saying that when he recorded 1999, it was just him and his machines in his room. Something to that effect. Sounds pretty electro to me.
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Reply #10 posted 08/28/10 4:23pm

CocoRock

skywalker said:



murph said:




CocoRock said:


BOOLSHITE!!! 1999 should be on that list instead. And who makes a top EIGHT list? disbelief




The operative word is "funk"....I don't think anyone would ever say Controversy is a better/ more ambitious album than 1999....But the"funk" is stronger on Controversy than it is on 1999...Excluding "DMSR" and "Lady Cab Driver" and All The Critics," 1999 is essentially a rock-pop release...And yeah, it's a brilliant one...



But I see Spin's vision....




The only problem is that you cannot exclude the songs you mentioned. 1999 is not a straight up rock-pop release. Hell, "DMSR" alone is one of the funkiest songs of all time.



yeahthat
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Reply #11 posted 08/28/10 4:32pm

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ea1313 said:

(I'm honoring Controversy now as I type this, released the year I was born!)

The rest of the list is:

2. Zapp -Zapp II

3. Jonzun Crew - Lost In Space

4. Various Artists - Body Moves: Electric Boogie

5. Cameo - She's Strange

6. Mantronix - The Album

7. Chromeo - Presents Un Joli Mix Pour Toi

8. Bigg Robb - Jerri Curl Muzic

- I don't have any of these other ones. Anyone have opinions on them?

I have Zapp II (and all of Zapp and Roger's albums), and I have the Cameo album, as well as a bunch of other Cameo albums.

Essential listening. I need to check out that Bigg Robb record - he's a member/associate of Zapp also.

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Reply #12 posted 08/29/10 5:34am

Timmy84

IMHO, Zapp II and Cameo's She Strange should be #1 and #2. 1999 was Prince's best as far as electro funk goes though Controversy had some great electro funk moments ("Controversy" being the obvious choice).

Don't get me wrong though, Controversy is a smash album.

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Reply #13 posted 08/29/10 6:01am

crazydoctor

Both controversy and 1999 would fit on this list... together for me these two albums sum up the minneapolis sound.

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Reply #14 posted 08/29/10 9:05am

NouveauDance

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Huggiebear said:

Yeah people are finally getting it.

nod cool

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Reply #15 posted 08/29/10 2:59pm

Mintchip

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ea1313 said:

...his eccentricity would never again seem so effortless.

i hate lines like this.

every time there's a list they put these stupid buttons on the end of the paragraph. "He would never again do this that and the other". How glib. It always sounds so authoritative, you almost believe it, but 99% of it is just bullshit written for effect.

And i'm pretty sure his eccentricties' maintained their effortlessness, whatever the hell that means. nice try though.

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Reply #16 posted 08/29/10 3:21pm

ea1313

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Mintchip said:

ea1313 said:

...his eccentricity would never again seem so effortless.

i hate lines like this.

every time there's a list they put these stupid buttons on the end of the paragraph. "He would never again do this that and the other". How glib. It always sounds so authoritative, you almost believe it, but 99% of it is just bullshit written for effect.

And i'm pretty sure his eccentricties' maintained their effortlessness, whatever the hell that means. nice try though.

Yeah, I completely agree. I don't think it takes any effort for him to be eccentric. This statement could even be used with 20TEN and make sense.

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Reply #17 posted 08/29/10 3:58pm

murph

skywalker said:

murph said:

The operative word is "funk"....I don't think anyone would ever say Controversy is a better/ more ambitious album than 1999....But the"funk" is stronger on Controversy than it is on 1999...Excluding "DMSR" and "Lady Cab Driver" and All The Critics," 1999 is essentially a rock-pop release...And yeah, it's a brilliant one...

But I see Spin's vision....

The only problem is that you cannot exclude the songs you mentioned. 1999 is not a straight up rock-pop release. Hell, "DMSR" alone is one of the funkiest songs of all time.

It's not about excluding songs....It's about the underlining focus of 1999...It was meant to be Prince's crossover record and it worked.....Bottom line....Controversy is easily more funkier than 1999....Although I enjoy 1999 better as a complete album....

[Edited 8/29/10 16:01pm]

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Reply #18 posted 08/29/10 4:32pm

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That list is fucking terrible.

You're so glam, every time I see you I wanna slam!
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Reply #19 posted 08/29/10 4:39pm

elmer

Whas Devoluted mean?

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Reply #20 posted 08/29/10 5:03pm

vi0letblues

It's good to see any props for Controversy. I have always felt it to be highly underrated.

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Reply #21 posted 08/29/10 5:32pm

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Yay!!! Finally, Controversy is given some credit. It's one of my fave cds of Prince!!!!!!!!!! biggrin

Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol
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Reply #22 posted 08/29/10 10:50pm

mrsquirrel

nothing shall ever atain the dizzying heights of my Private Joy.

did i spell 'atain' correctly?

Cx

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Reply #23 posted 08/29/10 11:03pm

crazydoctor

murph said:

CocoRock said:

BOOLSHITE!!! 1999 should be on that list instead. And who makes a top EIGHT list? disbelief

The operative word is "funk"....I don't think anyone would ever say Controversy is a better/ more ambitious album than 1999....But the"funk" is stronger on Controversy than it is on 1999...Excluding "DMSR" and "Lady Cab Driver" and All The Critics," 1999 is essentially a rock-pop release...And yeah, it's a brilliant one...

I'd say 1999 and automatic are funky songs....

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Reply #24 posted 09/08/10 11:00pm

Antoun

The Zapp album has some cool sounds on it, but it's really repetitive and gets tireing after one listen. Chromeo is pretentious and derivative: fakers of the funk!!! Might as well put Daft Punk up there while you're at it. Controversy deserves to be #1 on this list, but this is a very un-imaginative list.

No Time? No Trouble Funk? No Herbie Hancock?!!!

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Reply #25 posted 09/09/10 12:41am

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clapping

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