Well its finally out there, in flac and sounding lovely.

What are your opinions on this volume?

Any sign of vol 4 yet?

I apologize if this has been discussed before.

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it's great it's done and all that, and i'm sure there's plenty people who haven't heard this stuff, and i've sure some folk spent ages working on it etc, but it's a bit like flogging a dead horse these days with the same stuff getting tweaked and remastered with little improvement on the original releases

there are however a few things coming out in noticably superiour quality, and those doing the work on them seem to know how to tweak things right

it's nice to have everything compiled together i suppose. if they keep going with the series and eventually put out all the soundboards in a similar long running set then it's pretty cool

City Lights Remastered & Extended - Volume 3

6 CD
Label : Sabotage
Catalogue : #SAB 410-415
Disc Length : 79:03 / 79:46 / 79:47 / 79:32 / 78:10 / 78:39
Source : Soundboard Recording
Sound Quality : EX+
Year Of Release : 2010


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Disc 1

1999 Tour - Masonic Temple Auditorium, Detroit : 30th November 1982

1. Intro 2. Controversy 3. Let's Work 4. Little Red Corvette 5. Do Me, Baby 6. Head 7. Uptown 8. Lisa's Solo 9. How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore 10. Lady Cab Driver 11. International Lover 12. 1999 13. D.M.S.R.

Solid Gold - 14th December 1982

14. 1999

Disc 2

1999 Tour Rehearsal - Civic Center, Lakeland : January 1983

1. Controversy 2. Let's Work 3. Little Red Corvette 4. Delirious 5. Do Me, Baby 6. Head 7. Lady Cab Driver 8. Lisa's Solo - Free 9. Let's Pretend We're Married 10. When You Were Mine 11. 1999 12. D.M.S.R. (including Once In A Lifetime)

Nighttimes Variety, St. Paul : December 1982

[The Time] 13. The Walk 14. 777-9311 15. Chili Sauce Jam

Disc 3

1999 Tour - Civic Center, Lakeland : 1st February 1983

1. Intro 2. Controversy 3. Let's Work 4. Do Me, Baby 5. D.M.S.R. 6. Lisa's Solo 7. With You (instrumental) 8. How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore 9. Lady Cab Driver 10. I Wanna Be Your Lover 11. Head 12. Little Red Corvette 13. International Lover 14. 1999 [The Time Opening Act] 15. Intro 16. Get It Up 17. Cool 18. Girl 19. Wild And Loose 20. Gigolos Get Lonely Too

Disc 4

1999 Tour - Civic Center, Providence : 10th February 1983

1. Intro 2. Controversy 3. Let's Work 4. Do Me, Baby 5. D.M.S.R. 6. Lisa's Solo 7. Prince on Keys (incl. What I Say) 8. Still Waiting - How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore 9. Lady Cab Driver 10. Little Red Corvette 11. Dirty Mind 12. International Lover 13. 1999

1999 Tour - Civic Center, Lakeland : 1st February 1983

[The Time Opening Act] 14. 777-9311 15. The Walk 16. Outro


Disc 5

Universal Amphitheatre, Los Angeles : 28rd March, 1983

[Vanity 6] 1. Intro 2. Make Up 3. Wet Dream 4. Drive Me Wild 5. If A Girl Answers (Don't Hang Up) 6. Nasty Girl

Municipal Auditorium, Kansas City : 19th March 1983

[The Time] 7. Intro 8. Get It Up 9. 777-9311 10. Girl 11. Wild And Loose 12. Gigolos Get Lonely Too 13. Cool 14. The Walk 15. Outro

Solid Gold - 4th April 1983

16. Little Red Corvette

Various tracks recorded in Bloomington, Los Angeles, Houston, and Detroit 1982/1983

17. Sexuality 18. Let's Pretend We're Married 19. Free 20. Still Waiting 21. Monbeam Levels 22. With You 23. Piano Blues 24. Free 25. Still Waiting

Disc 6

1999 Tour - Convention Center, Fresno : 2nd April 1983

1. Intro 2. Controversy 3. Let's Work 4. Do Me, Baby 5. D.M.S.R. (aborted) 6. D.M.S.R. 7. Lisa's Solo - With You (instrumental) 8. Still Waiting (including Gotta Broken Heart Again) 9. How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore 10. Lady Cab Driver 11. Little Red Corvette 12. Dirty Mind 13. Audience 14. International Lover 15. 1999

Arena, Long Beach : 31th March 1983

[Vanity 6] 16. Intro 17. Make Up 18. Wet Dream 19. Drive Me Wild 20. If A Girl Answers (Don't Hang Up) 21. Nasty Girl

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^ It is future volumes of this that will really interest me.

Parade stuff.

don't you have all the shows already at least 17 times?

unique said:

don't you have all the shows already at least 17 times?

These remasters are the first time i have heard the City Lights series. I am not sure if the Parade soundboards i have, mainly the Parade Around The World stuff was included in any of this.

This City Lights stuff has been new to me.

MikeyB71 said:

unique said:

don't you have all the shows already at least 17 times?

These remasters are the first time i have heard the City Lights series. I am not sure if the Parade soundboards i have, mainly the Parade Around The World stuff was included in any of this.

This City Lights stuff has been new to me.

u haven't had city lights before? it came out about 16 years ago. i still have the original set, and it's been rehashed umpteen times since, as has pretty much every soundboard recording

it's great stuff if you haven't heard it before. there's about 200 soundboard recordings in circulation

unique said:

MikeyB71 said:

These remasters are the first time i have heard the City Lights series. I am not sure if the Parade soundboards i have, mainly the Parade Around The World stuff was included in any of this.

This City Lights stuff has been new to me.

u haven't had city lights before? it came out about 16 years ago. i still have the original set, and it's been rehashed umpteen times since, as has pretty much every soundboard recording

it's great stuff if you haven't heard it before. there's about 200 soundboard recordings in circulation

Nope, i have only had four discs worth out of all the City Lights series before now, a couple from this set and Controversy stuff.

Can you tell me what year this series goes up to?

MikeyB71 said:

unique said:

u haven't had city lights before? it came out about 16 years ago. i still have the original set, and it's been rehashed umpteen times since, as has pretty much every soundboard recording

it's great stuff if you haven't heard it before. there's about 200 soundboard recordings in circulation

Nope, i have only had four discs worth out of all the City Lights series before now, a couple from this set and Controversy stuff.

Can you tell me what year this series goes up to?

the original city lights is 1980 to 1986. two shows from 81, two from 82, two from 83, atlanta 85, stockholm 86. this new set is just other soundboards that had nothing to do with the original city lights. the original set were taking from video tapes rumoured to come from a band member. most of the shows are circulating on pro shot video

unique said:

MikeyB71 said:

Nope, i have only had four discs worth out of all the City Lights series before now, a couple from this set and Controversy stuff.

Can you tell me what year this series goes up to?

the original city lights is 1980 to 1986. two shows from 81, two from 82, two from 83, atlanta 85, stockholm 86. this new set is just other soundboards that had nothing to do with the original city lights. the original set were taking from video tapes rumoured to come from a band member. most of the shows are circulating on pro shot video

Thanks Uni.

Did the label already release a list of what they would be putting on the Parade volume? That would also be the volume that interests me...

zobilamouche said:

Did the label already release a list of what they would be putting on the Parade volume? That would also be the volume that interests me...

Not that i can find anywhere, the Parade volume is what i want to hear too.

zobilamouche said:

Did the label already release a list of what they would be putting on the Parade volume? That would also be the volume that interests me...

sabotage already released parade around the world, which was the paris 86 gig plus a bunch of other bits and bobs from npgmc etc. there's also the nice rehearsal, boston soundcheck, detroit birthday gig and first avenue warm up show, and the parade tour premier opening night that's available on soundboard, plus the UTCM premier party on soundboard from memory

Prince
parade around the wold - soundboard

cd1;august 25, 1986 le zenith, france

01 around the world in a day
02 christopher tracy's parade
03 new position
04 i wonder u
05 raspberry beret
06 delirious
07 controversy
08 a live bizarre
09 do me baby
10 how much is that doggy in he window
11 automatic
12 d.m.s.r.
13 when doves cry
14 under the cherry moon
15 anotherloverholenyohead
16 17 days
17 head
18 pop life
19 girls and boys
20 life can be so nice

cd2;

01 around the world in a day - detroit 7-6-1986
02 christopher tracy's parade - hamburg 31-8-1986
03 new position - hamburg 31-8-1986
04 i wonder u - hamburg 31-8-1986
05 raspberry beret - hamburg 31-8-1986
06 delirious - hamburg 31-8-1986
07 contoversy - hamburg 31-8-1986
08 a love bizarre, incl. ''stomp'' and ''its a free world - hamburg 31-8-1986
09 america - nice 31-8-1985
10 when doves cry - stockholm 22-8-1986
11 17 days - stockholm 22-8-1986
12 raspberry beret - sheridan 1-7-1986
13 delirios - sheridan 1-7-1986
14 controversy - sheridan 1-7-1986
15 mutiny - sheridan 1-7-1986
16 1999 - paris 25-8-1986
17 purple rain - stockholm 22-8-1986
18 its gonna be beautiful night - paris 25-8-1986
19 america - live '85/'86 from npg ahdio3



cd3; july 22, 1986 washington avenue warehouse, minneapolis

01 around the world in a day
02 christopher tracy's parade
03 new position
04 i wonder u
05 raspberry beret
06 delirios
07 controversy
08 mutiny
09 life can be so nice
10 soul psychodelicide, incl. ''ice cream castles'', kool & the gang's ''lady's night'', ''u gotta shake something'', its gonna be a beautiful night''

^ Minnesota Music Awards '86 on soundboard too.

sabotage have the parade era rehearsals set that covers the rehearsals i mentioned earlier, so they've pretty much released all the parade stuff before

unique said:

sabotage have the parade era rehearsals set that covers the rehearsals i mentioned earlier, so they've pretty much released all the parade stuff before

Except for the Stockholm set then? That's the only one remaining that they didn't touch yet.

zobilamouche said:

unique said:

sabotage have the parade era rehearsals set that covers the rehearsals i mentioned earlier, so they've pretty much released all the parade stuff before

Except for the Stockholm set then? That's the only one remaining that they didn't touch yet.

that was on the original citylights set

unique said:

zobilamouche said:

Except for the Stockholm set then? That's the only one remaining that they didn't touch yet.

that was on the original citylights set

Did the Septembre set ever get a freshening up? Or is this a bit too much off topic?

zobilamouche said:

unique said:

that was on the original citylights set

Did the Septembre set ever get a freshening up? Or is this a bit too much off topic?

unique said:

zobilamouche said:

Did the Septembre set ever get a freshening up? Or is this a bit too much off topic?

the city lights and remasted series relates to soundboard recordings. septembre is an audience recording. someone remastered the video by removing the existing footage and using a black screen instead and came out with far better results i'm sure one of those folk who converts shit to mp3 and then fucks around with everything so it sounds far worse in the end than it did at the start had remastered it with hideous artwork though

Ok - I'll hold on to my old copy then

I've been a bit out of the loop on those things.

unique said:

zobilamouche said:

Did the label already release a list of what they would be putting on the Parade volume? That would also be the volume that interests me...

sabotage already released parade around the world, which was the paris 86 gig plus a bunch of other bits and bobs from npgmc etc. there's also the nice rehearsal, boston soundcheck, detroit birthday gig and first avenue warm up show, and the parade tour premier opening night that's available on soundboard, plus the UTCM premier party on soundboard from memory

Prince
parade around the wold - soundboard

cd1;august 25, 1986 le zenith, france

01 around the world in a day
02 christopher tracy's parade
03 new position
04 i wonder u
05 raspberry beret
06 delirious
07 controversy
08 a live bizarre
09 do me baby
10 how much is that doggy in he window
11 automatic
12 d.m.s.r.
13 when doves cry
14 under the cherry moon
15 anotherloverholenyohead
16 17 days
17 head
18 pop life
19 girls and boys
20 life can be so nice

cd2;

01 around the world in a day - detroit 7-6-1986
02 christopher tracy's parade - hamburg 31-8-1986
03 new position - hamburg 31-8-1986
04 i wonder u - hamburg 31-8-1986
05 raspberry beret - hamburg 31-8-1986
06 delirious - hamburg 31-8-1986
07 contoversy - hamburg 31-8-1986
08 a love bizarre, incl. ''stomp'' and ''its a free world - hamburg 31-8-1986
09 america - nice 31-8-1985
10 when doves cry - stockholm 22-8-1986
11 17 days - stockholm 22-8-1986
12 raspberry beret - sheridan 1-7-1986
13 delirios - sheridan 1-7-1986
14 controversy - sheridan 1-7-1986
15 mutiny - sheridan 1-7-1986
16 1999 - paris 25-8-1986
17 purple rain - stockholm 22-8-1986
18 its gonna be beautiful night - paris 25-8-1986
19 america - live '85/'86 from npg ahdio3



cd3; july 22, 1986 washington avenue warehouse, minneapolis

01 around the world in a day
02 christopher tracy's parade
03 new position
04 i wonder u
05 raspberry beret
06 delirios
07 controversy
08 mutiny
09 life can be so nice
10 soul psychodelicide, incl. ''ice cream castles'', kool & the gang's ''lady's night'', ''u gotta shake something'', its gonna be a beautiful night''

I have this, what a huge mistake not to include the most famous song from Parade:

There's NO "KISS" on this set....

thedance said:

unique said:

sabotage already released parade around the world, which was the paris 86 gig plus a bunch of other bits and bobs from npgmc etc. there's also the nice rehearsal, boston soundcheck, detroit birthday gig and first avenue warm up show, and the parade tour premier opening night that's available on soundboard, plus the UTCM premier party on soundboard from memory

Prince
parade around the wold - soundboard

cd1;august 25, 1986 le zenith, france

01 around the world in a day
02 christopher tracy's parade
03 new position
04 i wonder u
05 raspberry beret
06 delirious
07 controversy
08 a live bizarre
09 do me baby
10 how much is that doggy in he window
11 automatic
12 d.m.s.r.
13 when doves cry
14 under the cherry moon
15 anotherloverholenyohead
16 17 days
17 head
18 pop life
19 girls and boys
20 life can be so nice

cd2;

01 around the world in a day - detroit 7-6-1986
02 christopher tracy's parade - hamburg 31-8-1986
03 new position - hamburg 31-8-1986
04 i wonder u - hamburg 31-8-1986
05 raspberry beret - hamburg 31-8-1986
06 delirious - hamburg 31-8-1986
07 contoversy - hamburg 31-8-1986
08 a love bizarre, incl. ''stomp'' and ''its a free world - hamburg 31-8-1986
09 america - nice 31-8-1985
10 when doves cry - stockholm 22-8-1986
11 17 days - stockholm 22-8-1986
12 raspberry beret - sheridan 1-7-1986
13 delirios - sheridan 1-7-1986
14 controversy - sheridan 1-7-1986
15 mutiny - sheridan 1-7-1986
16 1999 - paris 25-8-1986
17 purple rain - stockholm 22-8-1986
18 its gonna be beautiful night - paris 25-8-1986
19 america - live '85/'86 from npg ahdio3



cd3; july 22, 1986 washington avenue warehouse, minneapolis

01 around the world in a day
02 christopher tracy's parade
03 new position
04 i wonder u
05 raspberry beret
06 delirios
07 controversy
08 mutiny
09 life can be so nice
10 soul psychodelicide, incl. ''ice cream castles'', kool & the gang's ''lady's night'', ''u gotta shake something'', its gonna be a beautiful night''

I have this, what a huge mistake not to include the most famous song from Parade:

There's NO "KISS" on this set....

kiss was towards the end of the paris show, but not on the soundboard recording. there's another boot with the soundboard on disc 1 and audience recording on disc 2 to complete the show

Let me try something: I'll give a short short review of the boot without having heard it yet. Haven't seen it apart from pix. Etc.

Disc 1: Ripped from 4DaFunk's free release - nothing changed
Disc 2: Taken from Sabotage's own "1999 Revisited" - again, no changes
Disc 3: This is harder... If they're clever, they took the "Remastered" Thunderball version.. Guess they took the usual video rip, though.
Disc 4: An easy one, once again: Direct rip of the 4DaFunk release, with absolutely zero things changed.
Disc 5: Bit of the Triple Threat fan release, bit of FBG's latest Kansas City boot, the rest is all 4DaFunk.
Disc 6: They're own stone-age (however, brilliant) release. No improvements whatsoever.

Nice artwork, bits of old info (nothing new here), nice crystal trays.

Sound is good throughout, while absolutely NO improvements over anything available before. EVERYTHING on here is either taken from older, widely circulating Sabotage boots (approx. 25%), the other 75% are taken as-they-were from FREE releases. Just ripped from CD-R and pressed to disc, nothing changed at all.

The composition of the complete set is quite a mess, opening acts and main acts have been ripped apart and combined without further thinking.

Conclusion 1: NOTHING new here. Pay 60 bucks for a set which you could already download in an afternoon since years...

Conclusion 2: Nice overview for beginners. Collectors and hardcore fans already have the stuff you'll find on here.

Conclusion 3: This is an expensive release. It consists in large parts of stuff which was (and still IS, in fact) freely available, made by fans, made for fans, all for free. Sabotage came, ripped, and tried to make a buck. Easy as that. Evil as that.

Now come and prove me wrong. How accurate is it?

^ i have no fucking idea what you are talking about, nor do i really care.

I have not had this stuff before so i am happy with it.

60 bucks? i downloaded it all for free which is what most sensible people do.

OK, since you're having such a hard time understanding, here's another attempt:

You could've already downloaded the set months and (in parts) even years ago, technically, just as it is.

It consists of stolen material from other people. It's a rip-off.

[Edited 8/26/10 22:14pm]

MikeyB71 said:

^ i have no fucking idea what you are talking about, nor do i really care.

I have not had this stuff before so i am happy with it.

60 bucks? i downloaded it all for free which is what most sensible people do.

what he means is that fans cleaned up and did work to improve the shows and put them out online for free, and then commercial bootleggers took that work and pressed it up with new artwork to sell for a profit, and some people will pay £60 or so for a 6 disc set, whilst they could have got it for free online. some of the people working on the free releases are getting pissed off by people taking the free work and selling copies on ebay etc, and when that happens they stop putting stuff out as they don't want to do work for other people to make money from

there's a pile of stuff that's not commonly circulating for that and similar reasons of other people taking the credit for others work. on the flip side, some stuff is circulating because of the commercial labels paying cash for stuff that otherwise wouldn't be given out. for some people, with no money in it they don't want to take any risks or give stuff away

FunkyDissCo said:

OK, since you're having such a hard time understanding, here's another attempt:

You could've already downloaded the set months and (in parts) even years ago, technically, just as it is.

It consists of stolen material from other people. It's a rip-off.

I don't think you get it well enough yet.
Why is something that the market (mr Prince) did not provide suddenly a rip off?

The material was in circulation nevertheless.

The b00tleggar just made stuff sound nicer, pressed it onto a CD and added a booklet.

They provided a service. Contrary to mr P not providing a service.

You have a choice to buy, to download or to ignore.

Stolen is not an issue. It's even an exaggeration. Why did these recordings exist when they intended them not to get out? Why weren't they destroyed? Why is making a copy theft? `Copying isn't theft`. Search that phrase on youtube.

Lyrics

Copying is not theft. Stealing a thing leaves one less left Copying it makes one thing more; that's what copying's for. Copying is not theft. If I copy yours you have it too One for me and one for you That's what copies can do If I steal your bicycle you have to take the bus, but if I just copy it there's one for each of us! Making more of a thing, that is what we call "copying" Sharing ideas with everyone That's why copying is FUN!

Now that we made that clear I do hope your point of view has changed to a less radical form.

Naw, you got me wrong there. Sabotage didn't steal the stuff from Prince, they stole the stuff from free labels, stole their work. They're ripping off customers and other labels, selling they're genuine work which is free in its original form.

"The b00tleggar just made stuff sound nicer, pressed it onto a CD and added a booklet."

Well, that's a matter of debate - remember i posted like "let me TRY something" in the first place. My argument rather was that Sabotage DID NOT make stuff nicer, DID NOT add anything, but just took others' work and sell it. All that said, i could be proven wrong of course. But if I'm not, this is a major rip-off of both the customers who could get the same stuff for free AND the free labels who put hard work into the stuff other folks are making a buck with now.

... but let's move on. I made a post because i had the idea, which i found funny for a moment, to see how many shots i can right about which sources were used for this set, even before i listened to it.

I didn't mean to stir up age-old discussions again, nor did i try to be as serious about the whole thing as this is getting already. MikeyB71 you don't seem to know much about the stuff you're talking about, nor do you seem like humor is your thing. Actually, people who like to answer posts like "i have no fucking idea what you are talking about, nor do i really care." are retards in my book. I didn't mean to be hostile or anything, but you seem to lack the basic social skills to have a conversation..

Anyway, now it's me saying "i don't care".

[Edited 8/26/10 22:56pm]