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squirrelgrease said: chookalana said: This is very true. Color seperation is so much better in Quark. Now if they could make those UI changes in Quark, they'd really have something.... Oh yah, another thing about InDesign: InDesign 1 - InDesign 2 - InDesign 3 have compatibility problems with one another. That's not good. And I can't open Quark 6 files from Quark 5 - no backwards compatability. Do you mean you can't open Q5 files from Q6? Otherwise you're just being unreasonable!! | |
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VINCENT said: squirrelgrease said: Unfortunately, InDesign will never overcome Quark's foothold in the market. Quark's UI sucks donkey balls, but very few design houses and print vendors use InDesign as a primary program. I'm sorry guys bit this is utterly bullshit. InDesign is tottally taking over the market at the moment. Quark have a lot to worry about. We work with the biggest publisging houses all over the world and they are all seriously questionning the necessity to carry on with Quark In terms of development costs (look at the price of Quark extensions...a complete rip off), Quark is far behind. Even huge companies lik Disney have given up on Quark completely. Adobe are going to improve their versions a lot more in the following years with more and more great interactivity tools between Photoshop, Illustrator and their other packages and InDesign. Quark are losing the battle big time. It has always been a very average package anyway. All the designers and graphists I have worked with throughout the years hate it. Look at the crappy options in Quark to deal with graphics for instance ! Moreover you are mentionning bugs with Indesign...like if there were no fucking massive bugs with Quark !!!!! Trust me, Adobe products are for the most part, how I earn a living. I love Adobe. Quark is a necessary evil in this field right now. I know from reading the various European versions of Macintosh publications that InDesign is relied on much more heavily in the Euro market than in the US. As a user of InDesign, Quark and Freehand for multi-page layout, Quark has to be my least favorite and least intuitive method. I just wonder if InDesign will survive in the US or not within the next few years. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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1p1p1i3 said: squirrelgrease said: And I can't open Quark 6 files from Quark 5 - no backwards compatability. Do you mean you can't open Q5 files from Q6? Otherwise you're just being unreasonable!! No. I mean that I should be able to open Quark 6 files from 5, as I can open newer Adobe files with older versions of the same program. In other words, I haven't upgraded to 6, as I have to purchase several copies. Too much ching for my to justify right now. The weird thing is, most Quark 6 files that come to me are from PC users, and not Mac users. Are PC's coming with Quark 6 pre-installed, or WTF? If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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I'm sure the info is fabulous. However the presentation looks totally unappealling and the text far too tiny. Same reason I never read Days of Wild really - the tiny fonts gave me a headache. Meh, it seems Uptown are incapable of learning from their past mistakes. Come on guys, you are producing a premium product for hardcore fans willing to accept a higher price point... you could have upped the quality a bit. | |
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waaaayyy overpriced!
i would, however, pay $40 for a hard cover edition... | |
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I just bought my copy...didn't think to look at the sample pages, oopsies...but someone on here told me a couple months back that they were working on giving us a break with the tiny point size and actually using a decent sized font....I know smaller letters mean less pages which means a cheaper book in the long run, but come on, now...! | |
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Pretty off-topic really, but I have to weigh in. In the SF Bay Area, lots of folks still use quark, but... InDesign has been making very steady inroads for the last 2-3 years. EVERY print house I know will accept InDesign files, and handle them properly.
I was a big quark user way back when (now I don't really use any page layout app very much, honestly), but there's no way they can compete with Adobe. They don't have the attitude, the customer care, nor the technical resources. InDesign's tight integration with PS and AI make it a killer app here. If you didn't already know and love Quark's quirks, i.e. you were starting out just now to learn a tool, trust me, Indesign CS would be your obvious choice. Check this out, for example: http://www.creativepro.co...20604.html and http://www.iampariah.com/...00352.html ben -- "the prince.org guy" |
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