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Reply #60 posted 06/24/04 12:38pm

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jw1914 said:

Oh yeah, don't forget Victor Johnson(Sammy Hager/Bus Boys) buy the way if anybody keeps in touch with Victor tell him that we're sorry for taking him for a drive to get breakfast here in Philly and getting into a car accident. My bad!

And HOW HOW can we count out DR. Know!!!! I seen first hand Dr.Know of Bad Brains smoke Vernon(sorry Vernon,I just had to say it, it happens to the best of us at some time). And then there's Mike Cerous of New York(Cory Glover/Kelli Sae) dat boy is fecious!!!
Here in Philly honorable mentions are; Mike Tyler, Paul Eaton, Kimba Harris, Dom Butler Butch Stewart, Jeff Lee Johnson, Jeff Washington, Jay Medley, and the guy shedding down his basement.

Victor, Spacey T and myself used to play the "L.A. circuit" years ago.
(Bus Boys, Sound Barrier and Marcus Malone respectively)
The Marcus Malone group I was a part of at one time included Neftali "Fencewalk" Santiago on drums.

Jeff Lee Johnson is on the George Duke "Face The Music" CD.
The pieces i've heard are pretty fierce.

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Reply #61 posted 06/24/04 12:46pm

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Thumparello said:

Out of all the living people. I've seen Prince, Ernie, Steve Salas , Mike Hampton etc.

I going to have to go with P-funk's Blackbyrd McKnight. He is the only guitar player that has probably blown me away with his solo's lately. Scarey dude...

Listen 2 this motherf@4ker! Go head on Player! I didn't mention him because I didn't think anyone was hip 2 him. He did some shit with Bootsy and Bill Laswell. I know u all r hip 2 a brotha named Dee Dee. He's the cat that played with Da'Krash. He also did some shows playing in Bootsy's band. I did some shit with him with his band at the time called Dirty Diapers. We both play flying V's, but what was cool is that he plays left handed and I play right, so that shit looked cool onstage. He got in2 production and got tired of gigging, so that took care of that. Nice cat though and good player. More Mike Hampton than anything.
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Reply #62 posted 06/24/04 12:50pm

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blackguitaristz said:

paligap said:




Yeah, I feel You. I mean, in a better world, the discussion SHOULD just be about great guitarists in general--and, by that criteria, Ernie, Greg H., Tony , Bobby W., Jean Paul , Nile, and Eddie should be in all the guitar discussions as much as Steve Vai, Satriani, Carlos , Clapton, Jeff Beck and all the others are...

My band at the time was called AMALGAM where I was on lead guitar and lead vocals. My band was in the Black Rock Coalition West Coast Chapter out here in L.A. There is a tape of us doing some shows that a brother who attended U.S.C. was doing a student film on. We are in it along with some other bands. They showed it on local cable stations late at night and shit and in coffee houses. It was cool.

Hey The Audience? Did u ever see this? And what was the name of your band that u refered 2?
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Reply #63 posted 06/24/04 12:53pm

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blackguitaristz said:

blackguitaristz said:


My band at the time was called AMALGAM where I was on lead guitar and lead vocals. My band was in the Black Rock Coalition West Coast Chapter out here in L.A. There is a tape of us doing some shows that a brother who attended U.S.C. was doing a student film on. We are in it along with some other bands. They showed it on local cable stations late at night and shit and in coffee houses. It was cool.

Hey The Audience? Did u ever see this? And what was the name of your band that u refered 2?

What I mean is this video tape. Were u in the Black Rock Coalition out here in L.A. or was this before?
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Reply #64 posted 06/24/04 1:20pm

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blackguitaristz said:

What I mean is this video tape. Were u in the Black Rock Coalition out here in L.A. or was this before?

Never saw the video. Sounds hip.
I believe the BRC was kicking off just as our group (Marcus Malone) was breaking up.
Spacey T used to be with an R&B cover group (Kahlua I believe) that used to watch us rehearse at Falcon Studios on Santa Monica Blvd. That group (Kahlua) eventually became Sound Barrier.

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Reply #65 posted 06/24/04 1:27pm

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sinisterpentatonic said:

Growing up black and being a fan of rock music...

We are indeed kindred spirits. wink

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Reply #66 posted 06/24/04 1:28pm

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biggrin Hey, theAudience! and Blackguitaristz!

Y'all got any new mp3s or sound files at the moment?
This discussion makes me wanta hear some axe!
[This message was edited Thu Jun 24 13:41:10 2004 by paligap]
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Reply #67 posted 06/24/04 1:29pm

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theAudience said:

blackguitaristz said:

What I mean is this video tape. Were u in the Black Rock Coalition out here in L.A. or was this before?

Never saw the video. Sounds hip.
I believe the BRC was kicking off just as our group (Marcus Malone) was breaking up.
Spacey T used to be with an R&B cover group (Kahlua I believe) that used to watch us rehearse at Falcon Studios on Santa Monica Blvd. That group (Kahlua) eventually became Sound Barrier.

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Damn, and I used 2 have a Sound Barrier album. I remember seeing them at The Whisky A Go Go when I was in high school. The cats were bad. I remember seeing all these white heavy metal dudes in the audience looked scared to death. They were holding their girlfriends tight to them too.
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Reply #68 posted 06/24/04 1:38pm

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jw1914 said:


Here in Philly honorable mentions are; Mike Tyler, Paul Eaton, Kimba Harris, Dom Butler Butch Stewart, Jeff Lee Johnson, Jeff Washington, Jay Medley, and the guy shedding down his basement.



lol Man,Jef Lee is amazing! that cat puts out a CD ,what every 6 months?

I mean,these are just the ones I know about:

1. Blue

2. Communion

3. The Singularity

4. Laughing Boy

5. things are things

6. St. Somebody

7.Hype Factory

8.Hellion
(Jef Lee Johnson & the Wordy Mimes )

Not to mention the stuff he's done with Sonny T, and Michael Bland....

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Reply #69 posted 06/24/04 1:46pm

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blackguitaristz said:

theAudience said:


Never saw the video. Sounds hip.
I believe the BRC was kicking off just as our group (Marcus Malone) was breaking up.
Spacey T used to be with an R&B cover group (Kahlua I believe) that used to watch us rehearse at Falcon Studios on Santa Monica Blvd. That group (Kahlua) eventually became Sound Barrier.

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Damn, and I used 2 have a Sound Barrier album. I remember seeing them at The Whisky A Go Go when I was in high school. The cats were bad. I remember seeing all these white heavy metal dudes in the audience looked scared to death. They were holding their girlfriends tight to them too.


Hmmm. Sounds like Jimi's club gig in England when Eric, Pete, Jeff, Keith were in attendance. lol

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Reply #70 posted 06/24/04 2:06pm

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theAudience said:

blackguitaristz said:



Hmmm. Sounds like Jimi's club gig in England when Eric, Pete, Jeff, Keith were in attendance. lol

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Yep, it sure does doesn't it. Shit hasn't changed. I've seen those same faces staring up at me too. I know the look all too well. Black faces too. They look like "Oh shit, here we go again. What r we going 2 do with this little motherf#@ker! First Hendrix, then Prince, now this shit! Urrghhhh!" I know it!
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Reply #71 posted 06/24/04 2:10pm

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paligap said:

biggrin Hey, theAudience! and Blackguitaristz!

Y'all got any new mp3s or sound files at the moment?
This discussion makes me wanta hear some axe!
[This message was edited Thu Jun 24 13:41:10 2004 by paligap]

I know huh? I was thinking the same thing. I don't have my shit on mp3. Afraid of theft. Even though it copyrighted.
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Reply #72 posted 06/24/04 2:15pm

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blackguitaristz said:

paligap said:

biggrin Hey, theAudience! and Blackguitaristz!

Y'all got any new mp3s or sound files at the moment?
This discussion makes me wanta hear some axe!
[This message was edited Thu Jun 24 13:41:10 2004 by paligap]

I know huh? I was thinking the same thing. I don't have my shit on mp3. Afraid of theft. Even though it copyrighted.

I'm doing some new shit right now. I could hook u up.
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Reply #73 posted 06/24/04 2:58pm

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Nobody digs Drac from Slave? I know he only did that one solo on "Slide" and "Son Of Slide", but what a solo! I think that solo influenced the solo from "Get It Up".
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Reply #74 posted 06/24/04 3:09pm

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Nobody digs Drac from Slave? I know he only did that one solo on "Slide" and "Son Of Slide", but what a solo! I think that solo influenced the solo from "Get It Up".



I always loved Mark "Drac" Hicks's solos...actually, my favorite of his is at the end of Just Freak (from the Slave album"The Concept")....that shit is Dangerous!

....But the thing that really tripped me out was that I always thought that was His solo on Stone Jam, when it turned out to be keyboardist Ray Turner (leanin' on that Pitch Wheel!) eek THAT tripped me out!!
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Reply #75 posted 06/24/04 3:13pm

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paligap said:

biggrin Hey, theAudience! and Blackguitaristz!

Y'all got any new mp3s or sound files at the moment?
This discussion makes me wanta hear some axe!

Probably after the gig in Africa during August.
Going to the source of the rhythm.

tA

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Reply #76 posted 06/24/04 3:20pm

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Oh boy! This thread makes me wanna hear some Isley Bros. and Slave right about now.
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Reply #77 posted 06/24/04 3:21pm

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UptownDeb said:

Oh boy! This thread makes me wanna hear some Isley Bros. and Slave right about now.
Where have YOU been hiding?

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Reply #78 posted 06/24/04 3:28pm

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UptownDeb said:

Oh boy! This thread makes me wanna hear some Isley Bros. and Slave right about now.
Where have YOU been hiding?

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Hey, homey! biggrin I'm here, there, everywhere! biggrin (Okay, I'd need a couple of clones to be all o'that!)

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Reply #79 posted 06/24/04 4:50pm

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paligap said:

blackguitaristz said:

Nobody digs Drac from Slave? I know he only did that one solo on "Slide" and "Son Of Slide", but what a solo! I think that solo influenced the solo from "Get It Up".



I always loved Mark "Drac" Hicks's solos...actually, my favorite of his is at the end of Just Freak (from the Slave album"The Concept")....that shit is Dangerous!

....But the thing that really tripped me out was that I always thought that was His solo on Stone Jam, when it turned out to be keyboardist Ray Turner (leanin' on that Pitch Wheel!) eek THAT tripped me out!!
[This message was edited Thu Jun 24 15:10:41 2004 by paligap]

Sorry player. I 4got about that one. Yeah. I like his 'Slide" solo though.
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Reply #80 posted 06/24/04 4:53pm

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UptownDeb said:

theAudience said:



Hey, homey! biggrin I'm here, there, everywhere! biggrin (Okay, I'd need a couple of clones to be all o'that!)

(Old schooler that I am, I like paliqap's avatar!)

I think Deb is ghosting me though. R U Deb?

Are You Experienced? Well, I am.

Jimi Hendrix
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Reply #81 posted 06/25/04 8:14am

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blackguitaristz said:

paligap said:




I always loved Mark "Drac" Hicks's solos...actually, my favorite of his is at the end of Just Freak (from the Slave album"The Concept")....that shit is Dangerous!

....But the thing that really tripped me out was that I always thought that was His solo on Stone Jam, when it turned out to be keyboardist Ray Turner (leanin' on that Pitch Wheel!) eek THAT tripped me out!!
[This message was edited Thu Jun 24 15:10:41 2004 by paligap]

Sorry player. I 4got about that one. Yeah. I like his 'Slide" solo though.



I really like the solo from "Slide", the edited down version that was on the 45. Years later when I got the Best of Slave cd & heard the full length solo I was a bit underwelmed. One of my pet peeves is when any guitarist just stops playing melodically & starts cramming notes. it might sound & look cool live, but when it's a recording, it's the equivilant of running off at the
mouth. Also the liner notes from the "best of" cd mention that the solo was processed through an eventide harmonizer, which was new at the time.

Maybe it's just me, but the synth solo from the tune "Stone jam" sounds alot like the type of guitar solo a early 80's Alan Holdsworth might have played.


How about Jon Butcher, he's another great guitarist who very rarely gets mentioned.
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Reply #82 posted 07/06/04 10:42am

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I must have left my head in the ocean for not mentioning Leroy "Sugarfoot" Bonner.
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Reply #83 posted 07/06/04 12:50pm

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besides Hendrix, Eddie Hazel is one of my favorites of all time, you ever hear a guitar player that touches a nerve, you get a chill when you hear it, you feel connected to them in some sort of way? That's Eddie for me.....
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Reply #84 posted 07/06/04 12:55pm

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blackguitaristz said:

I must have left my head in the ocean for not mentioning Leroy "Sugarfoot" Bonner.



I know... confused I feel silly,too....
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Reply #85 posted 07/06/04 12:55pm

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...Oh, and you're right about Ernie Isley.. Actually I think He's someone who's VERY underrated!!..he never seems to make the top guitarists' lists , but he can go toe to toe with any of 'em ...I keep thinking about the Hall of Fame jam a few years back, when Carlos Santana came up to Ernie after a Hendrix Jam, slapped him on the back and said "Hey man - Great Playing!!"


I agree. Ernie is tops on my list!
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RipHer2Shreds said:

paligap said:

...Oh, and you're right about Ernie Isley.. Actually I think He's someone who's VERY underrated!!..he never seems to make the top guitarists' lists , but he can go toe to toe with any of 'em ...I keep thinking about the Hall of Fame jam a few years back, when Carlos Santana came up to Ernie after a Hendrix Jam, slapped him on the back and said "Hey man - Great Playing!!"


I agree. Ernie is tops on my list!
[This message was edited Tue Jul 6 19:29:59 2004 by RipHer2Shreds]

Yeah, around the time "Summer Breeze" was out, a lot of people really thought that it was Jimi playing. Ernie's coldblooded. He's definately one of my faves.
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Reply #87 posted 07/07/04 12:02pm

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I agree. Ernie is tops on my list!
[This message was edited Tue Jul 6 19:29:59 2004 by RipHer2Shreds]

Yeah, around the time "Summer Breeze" was out, a lot of people really thought that it was Jimi playing. Ernie's coldblooded. He's definately one of my faves.


Indeed. And that Summer Breeze solo was his best solo guitar work on an Isley Bros track. I think part of the reason he's not quite as revered as other guitarists is because his work wasn't meant to stand out, per se. His guitar playing was usually integrated into the rest of the music and wasn't regularly brought into the forefront. There are, of course, exceptions like Summer Breeze and Live It Up.
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RipHer2Shreds said:

blackguitaristz said:


Yeah, around the time "Summer Breeze" was out, a lot of people really thought that it was Jimi playing. Ernie's coldblooded. He's definately one of my faves.


Indeed. And that Summer Breeze solo was his best solo guitar work on an Isley Bros track. I think part of the reason he's not quite as revered as other guitarists is because his work wasn't meant to stand out, per se. His guitar playing was usually integrated into the rest of the music and wasn't regularly brought into the forefront. There are, of course, exceptions like Summer Breeze and Live It Up.

"Ain't I Been good to you" has the best solo by Ernie to me. There's a cut called "Under the influence" which is killing as well. Great guitar solos all the way through the song.
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Reply #89 posted 07/07/04 4:55pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:



Indeed. And that Summer Breeze solo was his best solo guitar work on an Isley Bros track. I think part of the reason he's not quite as revered as other guitarists is because his work wasn't meant to stand out, per se. His guitar playing was usually integrated into the rest of the music and wasn't regularly brought into the forefront. There are, of course, exceptions like Summer Breeze and Live It Up.

"Ain't I Been good to you" has the best solo by Ernie to me. There's a cut called "Under the influence" which is killing as well. Great guitar solos all the way through the song.




With all this talk about Ernie, I dug out his solo release "High Wire" which I think is quite good.
I just suprised it hasn't come up in any of the earlier post, lots of great playing. I'll toss out this name again: Jon Butcher....a great guitarist, who you hear very little about.
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