TheFrog said:

Yep, and if there is someone that really can't sing and still makes money with it, it must be Bob

Cloudbuster said:

sosgemini said:

you've got some nurve

I'm gonna have to kill you now

wavesofbliss said:

You must be out of your mind to put Janet Jackson in the same category as Britney Spears and the like.

theVelvetRoper said:

Beyonce, Christina Aguilera and Pink are quite talented, as well.

VoicesCarry said:

I agree. I really was just putting down Britney, and didn't mean "the like" in reference to Christina and "the like".
[This message was edited Sun Mar 21 10:46:43 2004 by theVelvetRoper]

The most overrated artists have got to be the Beatles. Not because they're bad-- they're certainly not. They're better than 99% of the mainstream groups out today. However, they're not nearly as great as they're made out to be by the media. People like Stevie Wonder, David Bowie, Ani Difranco and yes Prince are vastly underrated. The only people I feel get their proper dues are Miles Davis and Bob Dylan. They're not really over or under-hyped.

I'm not gonna even get into the Janets, Madonnas, Justins, Michaels, and Elvises because they're not artists. Great entertainers to be sure but not artists. They're media creations from start to finish.

whodknee said:

Michael Jackson is not an artist? I hate the guy now but he was producing tons of great material back in the 70s and 80s.
[This message was edited Sun Mar 21 10:01:42 2004 by VoicesCarry]

VoicesCarry said:

Michael had some ideas I'm sure, as did Madonna for that matter. Ultimately though, they're not the ones making the music. I don't doubt that he had a good ear for music but that's different from creating it.

whodknee said:

Well he's listed as sole writer of "Billie Jean", "Beat It", "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough", "Working Day And Night" and basically the entire Bad album (not including his work with the Jackson 5, Diana Ross, and so on). He cowrote 10 of the 14 tracks on Dangerous, and wrote an additional 3. He's always been heavily involved in the production of his music. The man knows how to craft a good pop song. How is that not creating music? Sure he's no Dylan lyrics-wise, but then neither was Smokey Robinson.
[This message was edited Sun Mar 21 10:51:23 2004 by VoicesCarry]

just because you have some measure of talent doesn't mean you're not overrated. personally i think being a good entertainer has more to do with a personal need for attention not necessarily talent.

besides, it's just one woman's opinion.
[This message was edited Sun Mar 21 19:14:40 2004 by wavesofbliss]

VoicesCarry said:

I agree. Let's not forget that unlike many of his peers, he can still perform his trademark song (BJ) on stage, just as well as ever, and he has done this over and over....on stage he cannot be touched...so damn good....and this has ALWAYS been the case....yeah and he wrote Billy Jean and slew of other hits...perhaps some of the orgers are overrated...

I really can't understand how no one has mentioned the VERY OVERATED TWAT ROBBIE WILLIAMS he is so fucking fake and shit and yet people go mad over the arrogant waste of space, he in my opinion is the most overated mutha fucka ever absolute shit but sells shit loads of records and tickets. Daniel Beddingfield and Dido are also overated bland as fuck pure shit but are amazing compared with fuck wit williams.

Whateva said:

And now he's whoring himself in the new Victoria's Secret TV ads.

NIRVANA----THESE DUDES SUCK PHAT COCKS!!!

richierich said:

robbie
is
just
a
Viacom
Pimp

Thumparello said:

I think they're overrated for what they were (I think I even said so above) but to say they suck fat cocks is a bit harsh.

They were a good band and Kurt wrote some great songs but he didn't really offer anything new. Teenage angst and self loathing was being done years before by a certain Jim Morrison. As a band, though, Nirvana sure could play.

I can't believe some of the artists people have on this list in here. It's unbelievable. If you're gonna have folks like Stevie Wonder and Sting and Meshell on this list then Prince needs to be on this list. And I'm a Prince fan. Besides...it's all been done before. It's all a matter of choice....what you like over what someone else likes. Personally if you like someone's music than so be it. Hell...half the music on MTV and the radio these days is overrated if you wanna get technical.

SteamForest said:

Half?! How about almost ALL.

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

...well,
ive gotta dance with ya' on BEYONCE, hmmm?

OH MY GOD>>>>> i am numer 200 to respond.....i dont think anyone on this bored can say that someone is over rated.....because...well....you aint put shit out so far. have you.....nah, didnt think so. LIKE I HAVE SSAID SO MANY TIMES BEFORE YOU CAN SAY THAT YOU DONT "LIKE" IN YOUR OPINON, BUT DAMN, SHUT UP. I'M RICK JAMES BITCH.....

Madonna these days.

95% of the "artists" on the Billboard Top 200.

whodknee said:[quote]

VoicesCarry said:

Writing song lyrics,composing melodies,and coming up with vocal arrangements (things that Madonna and Michael do) is all a part of the creative process of making music.Just because an artist doesn't play all the instruments on their songs,does not mean they are not "artists".

DavidEye said:[quote]

whodknee said:

I often agree with you David, as I do here.
Bloody hell, I'd hate 2 think that one of my faves, Sade is not an "artist" because all she does is sing. In many ppl's views, u need 2 play an instrument, compose, produce, even if it's not even good in the end.
I for one, also appreciate and really like when various talents come together to actually create something - such as someone writing a song for someone else to sing, and there being producer to an album that is actually not the singer themselves. There is a beauty in team work, and collaborations, and can give something a different and unique flavor. Films/movies are a perfect example of this 'teamwork' and 'collaboration'.

BTW I absolutely adore Sade. I think if anything, she is underrated.

whodknee said:

Just curious, but, do you play? And if you do, I'm just curious whether you've had the experience to write or record with singers that don't play instruments, particularly those who are blessed with the ability to not only write lyrics, but the ability use their voice to actually sing out instrumental parts (even though the parts are then transposed for them)? If so, would you assert as a musician that these singers are not actually part of the creative process when putting a song together, even though the the singer, oft times, is there singing her face off for hours on end, assisting the arragement of the voices and instruments to the best of her ability?

Prepared to be killed I say...

Morissey and The Smiths...

don't get me wrong I do quite like his/their stuff but I think its given more credit than it should be...

JaneyPoos said:

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