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Reply #30 posted 12/29/03 8:26am

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He said the bruises were from handcuffs. Why would they put the handcuffs on his forearm? They would slip off from there.


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Reply #31 posted 12/29/03 8:51am

Anxiety



"Michael, if this is going to work, you're aware that we need to make it look like you were in a scuffle. I promise this won't hurt any more than it has to..."
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Reply #32 posted 12/29/03 9:10am

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EvilWhiteMale said:

He said the bruises were from handcuffs. Why would they put the handcuffs on his forearm? They would slip off from there.


hmmm

If they are too tight it can cause a blood clot anywhere on the arm.
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Reply #33 posted 12/29/03 9:23am

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This love is a private affair
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Reply #34 posted 12/29/03 9:44am

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biggrin DOO DOO biggrin

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i can't help it...that quote should go along with all the other good quotes of the year, like "crack is wack"...lol
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Reply #35 posted 12/29/03 2:08pm

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From Samual L. Jackson, at the beginning of Eddie Murphy's "RAW"

Ha, Ha, Ha...I looove that "doo doo" line...I'll tell you... that boys got TALENT! Ha, ha...







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I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired!
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Reply #36 posted 12/29/03 2:22pm

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Ellie said:

EvilWhiteMale said:

He said the bruises were from handcuffs. Why would they put the handcuffs on his forearm? They would slip off from there.


hmmm

If they are too tight it can cause a blood clot anywhere on the arm.



There is NO WAY that handcuffs caused those bruises on his arm way the hell up there. I was hancuffed in training for damn near 6 months by other people in training. Even done by people who didn't know what the hell they were doing...They do not leave bruises way the hell up there.
I still am not convinced that MJ did this but he does not need to start telling lies now. Anyone in law enforcement is going to look at that bruise and laugh thier assess off.
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Reply #37 posted 12/29/03 2:30pm

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They couldn't have locked him in a lavatory for 45 minutes (let alone with feces/doo-doo spattered all over the walls - wtf???), primarily because news reports on the day of his booking stated the whole booking process took no more than half an hour. He went in there, got booked, posted bail, and left.

These cops aren't stupid. They don't forcibly imprison Michael Jackson or "manhandle" him enough to produce bruises. If you look at the photos of him entering the building, he's walking peacefully and the officers are hardly pushing him or anything like that. IF they were to, they know he'd be acquitted in a second. AND he could have had their asses bankrupt and in jail (and he would have, too, if this had really happened) in 5 seconds. His lawyer was with him the entire time.

This makes no sense.
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Reply #38 posted 12/29/03 2:45pm

AshK

the bruises looked pretty high up so it could be from where they were just walking him in or pushing him around. Plus MJ has some form of Lupus which means hes more susceptible to bruising. from what i've seen it looks like the handcuffs were done too tight and disrupted the blood flow, when i've been in hospitals and a tube stuck in my arm the mark looked similar, not really a bruise but trapped blood or something...
I dont think MJs laywer would let him over-exagerate too much or just blatently lie, (he was there during the interview) it seems so unlikely that anyone would be silly enough to mistreat someone in custody with such a high profile. but then again you never know...
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Reply #39 posted 12/29/03 2:54pm

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AshK said:

the bruises looked pretty high up so it could be from where they were just walking him in or pushing him around. Plus MJ has some form of Lupus which means hes more susceptible to bruising. from what i've seen it looks like the handcuffs were done too tight and disrupted the blood flow, when i've been in hospitals and a tube stuck in my arm the mark looked similar, not really a bruise but trapped blood or something...
I dont think MJs laywer would let him over-exagerate too much or just blatently lie, (he was there during the interview) it seems so unlikely that anyone would be silly enough to mistreat someone in custody with such a high profile. but then again you never know...


I am much more prone to believe that the bruise came from someone handling him. But they would have had to have been using an extremeley tight grip. But handcuffs...NO FRIGGIN WAY. I did just show the photo to my sergeant. He did just what I though he would when I told him that MJ said it came from handcuffs...He laughed his ass off.
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Reply #40 posted 12/29/03 2:57pm

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drool ILLIMACK!!
I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired!
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Reply #41 posted 12/29/03 2:59pm

AshK

Yeah but MJs condition means that its possible even if the handcuffs wernt all that tight he could have still suffered extreme bruising.
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Reply #42 posted 12/29/03 3:07pm

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VoicesCarry said:

They couldn't have locked him in a lavatory for 45 minutes (let alone with feces/doo-doo spattered all over the walls - wtf???), primarily because news reports on the day of his booking stated the whole booking process took no more than half an hour. He went in there, got booked, posted bail, and left.

These cops aren't stupid. They don't forcibly imprison Michael Jackson or "manhandle" him enough to produce bruises. If you look at the photos of him entering the building, he's walking peacefully and the officers are hardly pushing him or anything like that. IF they were to, they know he'd be acquitted in a second. AND he could have had their asses bankrupt and in jail (and he would have, too, if this had really happened) in 5 seconds. His lawyer was with him the entire time.

This makes no sense.
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hmmm...makes you wonder what else he has lied about, cause
he's surely not telling the truth here.
Anything to turn public opinion his way...once a sell-out, always a sell-out!
Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind.
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Reply #43 posted 12/29/03 3:10pm

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AshK said:

Yeah but MJs condition means that its possible even if the handcuffs wernt all that tight he could have still suffered extreme bruising.



The bruising is not what is unbelievable. It's the location. It's very possible to get bruising by handcuffs that are too tight. But is "only" leaves a little wring/indentation around your wrist. Now if someone was escorting him and they were holding his arm, and if he is prone to bruising, it's possible that he got them that way. But handcuffs??whofarted Have you ever been handcuffed?
And when the hell did he get Lupus? I've never heard that. Is there any condition known to man that he doesn't have?lol
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Reply #44 posted 12/29/03 3:21pm

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rolleyes Meanwhile, 20 000+ people died in an Iranian earthquake this weekend.
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Reply #45 posted 12/29/03 3:21pm

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Bruising you say:



BASTARD COPS! mad
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Reply #46 posted 12/29/03 3:23pm

AshK

I did say earlier it could have been due to the guys walking him around, but it may just be a possibility it was the cuffs as i said it doesnt look like a bruise but like a blood clot, which could have been caused by the cuffs. it sounds extreme i know but well its a possibility.
yeah i've been handcuffed and i got skinny arms so they actually went up to about half way btween my elbow and wrist, and it hurt like hell, i didnt bruise though, i had a patch where it was slightly red but i dont bruise easily and my skin tone doesnt show it either.
Apparently if you have sevre vitiligo then Lupus is quite common, i dont think he ever straight out said he had it but his doctor is specialst in the area plus he was seen at some conventions for Lupus. It also explians why his lip seems dead in the you rock my world video as thats a common side effect.
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Reply #47 posted 12/29/03 3:26pm

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AshK said:

I did say earlier it could have been due to the guys walking him around, but it may just be a possibility it was the cuffs as i said it doesnt look like a bruise but like a blood clot, which could have been caused by the cuffs. it sounds extreme i know but well its a possibility.
yeah i've been handcuffed and i got skinny arms so they actually went up to about half way btween my elbow and wrist, and it hurt like hell, i didnt bruise though, i had a patch where it was slightly red but i dont bruise easily and my skin tone doesnt show it either.
Apparently if you have sevre vitiligo then Lupus is quite common, i dont think he ever straight out said he had it but his doctor is specialst in the area plus he was seen at some conventions for Lupus. It also explians why his lip seems dead in the you rock my world video as thats a common side effect.


Actually he had a cyst removed from inside his top lip a week prior to shooting YRMW.
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Reply #48 posted 12/29/03 3:32pm

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Marrk said:

Bruising you say:



BASTARD COPS! mad

i've seen far worse than that.




































...that cat said "doo-doo". falloff okay, i'ma quit now...
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Reply #49 posted 12/29/03 3:33pm

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Marrk said:

Bruising you say:



BASTARD COPS! mad



falloff Now does that look like an imprint left from handcuffs to you? Or does it look like something left from someone's hand? I'll bet someone handled him too tightly, which is still a valid complaint. But make it believalble Mike!!! It ain't the cuffs dude! Cuffs are supposed to be "double-locked" in Cali. Cuffs have a little pinhole in the side that you push in with the oppisite end of the handcuff key. Once you have the cuffs as tight as you need them, and in the correct position around the wrist, you "double-lock" them so that they wont tighten up or slip and slide around.They are locked in one position. This is standard procedure, so I'm sure that they took EXTRA precaution with MJ.
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Reply #50 posted 12/29/03 3:35pm

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Marrk said:

AshK said:

I did say earlier it could have been due to the guys walking him around, but it may just be a possibility it was the cuffs as i said it doesnt look like a bruise but like a blood clot, which could have been caused by the cuffs. it sounds extreme i know but well its a possibility.
yeah i've been handcuffed and i got skinny arms so they actually went up to about half way btween my elbow and wrist, and it hurt like hell, i didnt bruise though, i had a patch where it was slightly red but i dont bruise easily and my skin tone doesnt show it either.
Apparently if you have sevre vitiligo then Lupus is quite common, i dont think he ever straight out said he had it but his doctor is specialst in the area plus he was seen at some conventions for Lupus. It also explians why his lip seems dead in the you rock my world video as thats a common side effect.


Actually he had a cyst removed from inside his top lip a week prior to shooting YRMW.


Really ? i read somewhere it was due to his lupus but anyway maybe i was wrong then or just a coincidence
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Reply #51 posted 12/29/03 5:31pm

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Anxiety said:



"Michael, if this is going to work, you're aware that we need to make it look like you were in a scuffle. I promise this won't hurt any more than it has to..."


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Genius. You rock, Anxiety.
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Reply #52 posted 12/29/03 9:08pm

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illimack said:

Ellie said:

EvilWhiteMale said:

He said the bruises were from handcuffs. Why would they put the handcuffs on his forearm? They would slip off from there.


hmmm

If they are too tight it can cause a blood clot anywhere on the arm.



There is NO WAY that handcuffs caused those bruises on his arm way the hell up there. I was hancuffed in training for damn near 6 months by other people in training. Even done by people who didn't know what the hell they were doing...They do not leave bruises way the hell up there.
I still am not convinced that MJ did this but he does not need to start telling lies now. Anyone in law enforcement is going to look at that bruise and laugh thier assess off.


It wouldn't surprise me if those bruises were made by him and his people to turn the attention away from his own bad behavior.
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Reply #53 posted 12/29/03 9:49pm

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"They were supposed to go in, and just check fingerprints, and do the whole thing that they do when they take somebody in," he said. "They manhandled me very roughly. My shoulder is dislocated, literally."

The pain from being handcuffed behind his back "keeps me from sleeping at night," he said.

Jackson said he was locked in a restroom for 45 minutes after he asked to use the facilities. He said the room was smelly because of feces thrown all over.


Yeah, Michael is a little boy trapped in a man's body. Check him out right now, lying his ass off like a 4 year old.

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Reply #54 posted 12/30/03 12:43am

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I didn't think MJ could top the plastic surgery lies (apart from denying he's a pedophile) but he was in rare form Sunday night.
Dislocated shoulders, doo doo on the walls, locked in the restroom for 45 minutes, etc., etc., etc.
Congenital liar doesn't even begin to describe the train wreck known as Michael Jackson.
Note to MJ: If you're gonna claim both your shoulders have been dislocated, don't walk out of the police station waving both hands and flashing peace signs to your fans with a big grin on your face. Idiot.
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Reply #55 posted 12/30/03 6:37am

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If you're gonna claim both your shoulders have been dislocated, don't walk out of the police station waving both hands and flashing peace signs to your fans with a big grin on your face. Idiot.


Exactly. That's on lots of peoples minds. Also, it's alleged that his people made a statement praising the authorities for handling the arrest properly.
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Reply #56 posted 12/30/03 11:24am

bananacologne

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I didn't think MJ could top the plastic surgery lies (apart from denying he's a pedophile) but he was in rare form Sunday night.
Dislocated shoulders, doo doo on the walls, locked in the restroom for 45 minutes, etc., etc., etc.
Congenital liar doesn't even begin to describe the train wreck known as Michael Jackson.
Note to MJ: If you're gonna claim both your shoulders have been dislocated, don't walk out of the police station waving both hands and flashing peace signs to your fans with a big grin on your face. Idiot.


EXACTLY what I was thinking!

And the prize 4 Prime dick-head of the year goes 2...

Talkign about digging yourself deeper and deeper...
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Reply #57 posted 12/30/03 3:30pm

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Totally fales allegations he put on the police! Jackie Jackson fucked his shit up for putting himself in this situation.


But you didn't hear that from me, cause I'm not one to gossip. smile
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