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Reply #30 posted 12/29/03 1:49pm

Marrk

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VoicesCarry said:

FunkyBrotha said:

Actuallly i think there is a serious conspiracy in America against MJ and i have no idea why! The only thing i can think of is the racism card! Strange that all of the top selling artists in America are white yet it is one of the most diverse countries in the world! Strange that there still arent any black people in any prominent positions in America and why oh why has there not been a Black President!

Lets face it the rest of the world likes MJ and supports him, of course, there are people who dislike him but on the whole, most of the rest of the world are supporting him just the same as when he was black or at the top of his career!

This has not happened in America!

In America, what has happened to Prince and Madonna, they are seen as being over/has beens. In Europe and the Rest of the World, they are respected as being talented individuals!

Lets face it America is a sick society and to be honest im glad mj is sticking up for himself in a world where we all yearn to fit in with what everyone else is doing!

The people who attack mj are truly weak minded idiots who fail to see past their own pathetic existence!


You make some good points.

American pop culture is really transitory - you're golden one minute, worthless the next. Europeans really RESPECT their artists and they're willing to support them over long periods of time. I wish we were more like Europe in many aspects.


All that may be true in the rest of Europe, but here in England, we're just like the States. The masturbatory media here love setting people up and then knocking them down.

I think it worked for a period of time with MJ, but alot of folks including non-fans are beginning to see through all the bullshit. That's probably why his album is still in the UK top3 after 6 weeks on release.

Pretty amazing considering most people already own these songs multiple times over.

good for him.
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Reply #31 posted 12/29/03 2:27pm

AshK

MJ does seem to have a strong fan base here in England, there have been loads of fan meet ups and demos in london (i have yet to go to one). I noticed that the Media (TV News especially) really isnt jumping to one side like they did back in 93, excluding tabloids of course. even nightclubs that i've been to over the last few months have played mj so frequently and stores aswell. I was pleasently surprised about the amount of support hes getting here. Hes still been ripped apart by the usuals but it wasnt as intense as i thought it would be.
I think the Bashir interview actually brought a lot of people back on MJs side, even though the whole 'i sleep with boys' was just jumped upon by the whole world. kinda ironic i suppose...
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Reply #32 posted 12/29/03 2:36pm

VoicesCarry

AshK said:

MJ does seem to have a strong fan base here in England, there have been loads of fan meet ups and demos in london (i have yet to go to one). I noticed that the Media (TV News especially) really isnt jumping to one side like they did back in 93, excluding tabloids of course. even nightclubs that i've been to over the last few months have played mj so frequently and stores aswell. I was pleasently surprised about the amount of support hes getting here. Hes still been ripped apart by the usuals but it wasnt as intense as i thought it would be.
I think the Bashir interview actually brought a lot of people back on MJs side, even though the whole 'i sleep with boys' was just jumped upon by the whole world. kinda ironic i suppose...


Bashir was a moron. He should have edited that doco
WITHOUT a bias. That ruined whatever point he was trying to make with it. It reflected more poorly on him than it did on Michael.
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Reply #33 posted 12/29/03 2:41pm

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VoicesCarry said:

AshK said:

MJ does seem to have a strong fan base here in England, there have been loads of fan meet ups and demos in london (i have yet to go to one). I noticed that the Media (TV News especially) really isnt jumping to one side like they did back in 93, excluding tabloids of course. even nightclubs that i've been to over the last few months have played mj so frequently and stores aswell. I was pleasently surprised about the amount of support hes getting here. Hes still been ripped apart by the usuals but it wasnt as intense as i thought it would be.
I think the Bashir interview actually brought a lot of people back on MJs side, even though the whole 'i sleep with boys' was just jumped upon by the whole world. kinda ironic i suppose...


Bashir was a moron. He should have edited that doco
WITHOUT a bias. That ruined whatever point he was trying to make with it. It reflected more poorly on him than it did on Michael.


Bashir rolleyes i wonder if they'll ask that prick to testify? if he does i wonder how many times he'll say 'disturbed'? lol
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Reply #34 posted 12/29/03 2:55pm

AshK

VoicesCarry said:

AshK said:

MJ does seem to have a strong fan base here in England, there have been loads of fan meet ups and demos in london (i have yet to go to one). I noticed that the Media (TV News especially) really isnt jumping to one side like they did back in 93, excluding tabloids of course. even nightclubs that i've been to over the last few months have played mj so frequently and stores aswell. I was pleasently surprised about the amount of support hes getting here. Hes still been ripped apart by the usuals but it wasnt as intense as i thought it would be.
I think the Bashir interview actually brought a lot of people back on MJs side, even though the whole 'i sleep with boys' was just jumped upon by the whole world. kinda ironic i suppose...


Bashir was a moron. He should have edited that doco
WITHOUT a bias. That ruined whatever point he was trying to make with it. It reflected more poorly on him than it did on Michael.



That was kinda my point. I think because Bashir had a reputation, he was quite respected it actually helped mj, cos here i was thinking if someone of that integrity as Bashir will twist an interview in his favour then what does that say for every other interview mjs done ?
even though he was bias most ppl could see past the music which gave it the dark sinister tone and just ignore Bashirs slimey commentary. Bashir was too obvious in his deceit, so ppl felt sorry for mj even before mj decided to retaliate.
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Reply #35 posted 12/29/03 11:18pm

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man o man.. I never thought Michael Jackson would really fall to this level! If you asked me my thoughts of MJ's Future in 1986 I would never think he would totally loose his mind like he has!

Jackson is sooo clearly the most delusional human on his planet! He is such a compulsive lier!!

wow... never thought he would be sooo completely lost in his own false,phoney hype of a career at the core is a man that hasn't or can't sing live anywhere for over 20+ years! The guy hasn't sang live ((IN KEY)) for over 20 years! The guy lip syncs everywhere? how is that amazing??? ..and when at the end of his "lip synced performance" he turns on the mic for the last few seconds and BAM he is never in key! *That should tell everyone why he never performs live! ie: turn his mic on!

BUT last night was pathetic!

1) Who has Lamps & Lights a Foot & a Half away from your Shoulders, Head & Waist??? WOW is his face that messed up that you need 7 Lamps all around your face.. to make you look Presentable??? damn that messed up because the "presentable" look was terrible! (my brother who is a fan of his thought he look like a Wooden Puppet that was Painted)

2) He clearly is a DRUG ADDICT! He needs someone close to hism to STOP listening to him because he is nuts! The guy was clearly wasted on Perscription Drugs last night!! His Eye were slits! He looked sooo stoned! That was the worst he ever looked! He looked like a complete drug addict!

3) Pretending to be beating by the cops is just pathetic!! Isane and a complete lie!!! WHY would you throw this out there when you have a "decent" case on your side to get off in the courts?? I think he knows those cops found some sick insane thing/evidence and he is laying rhe ground work to a "racial case" (sick bastard).. IF IF IF Jackson was abbused by the cops.. WHY didn't his Lawyer say something when he made his Statement AFTER Jackson was booked and it was over??? WHY Hasn't Jackson FIRED Marc Geragos NOW or seconds after he got out after being booked??? Would you assume that MJ would say " hey I was in the bathroom for 45 minutes and you were no where around! You didn't look out for my best interests!!!" **WHY hasn't MJ fired him NOW?? Geragos made a statement for MJ after the booking (seconds after the booking) and DIDN'T Bring up anything about "The Bathroom & The Cops roughin him up"

* Also MJ wasn't even in the Police Station for 45 minutes! I have it on tape and he wasn't even in there for that long. (such a stupid move! ALL these stupid Jacko Moves he is doing right now will be in court for his Credibility! The Cop will nail him on all these stupid statements he is making right now!) THe Cops TAPED the whole thing!!! HOW is he going to get out fo these stupid "Cops beating me up" Statements when it is on tape??

4) The American Conspiracy?? This might be the stupidest thing MJ has been slowly putting out there that "White America"/"They"/ The Record Industry doesn't want Jackson to be bigger then The Beatles & Elvis??? That is sooo disgusting for this RACIST (Micheal Jackson) to blame his failing career of everyone else but himself! HOW is there a Conspiracy when "They" gave you $65 Million to Record & Promote 1 Album, Close down Times Square in NYC for all your fans to gather..so you can give autographs, Give you another $10 Million to make a Music Video & Promote that Video on all the Music Stations for the first few days of your Invincible Album's Release.. They played that video on the Hour EVERY Hour!

* Yes there is a Conspiracy! BUT on your side! Clearly NO one wanted to hear a New Micheal Jackson Record.. but "They" tried to get The Public to! By spending sooo much money & stopping what the REAL Public wanted to hear. They gave you $65 Million to make it!! They Gave you $10 Million for a Music Video (Short Film wink ) *** IN a nutshell THEY stopped real music and peoples tastes in 2001 ..to TRY to "Conspire" to wish/believe they liked a Music Talent that was happening on the cutting edge 20 years ago.. IS & WAS stilling Relevant now in 2001! rolleyes

5) Of Course Jackson is still making my statement of creating a "Gray Zone" between Petophile & his "non-sexual" Jacko Foreplay lifestyle... That is clearly his life's cause now. rolleyes

WHO 20 years ago would think this guy Michael Jackson would be a complete delusional.. lieing.. mess! ALL done by his own doing!

Hey Jackson as much as you want to blame everyone for your problems.. ie: The Media.. YOU were the one that started using "risky" promotional hype for Captain EO (by saying you slept in a Oxygen Chamber!! Insisting The Equirer write that you were "Bizarre" & week or so before your BAD Album was released YOU released you wanted to Buy The Elephant Man's Bones)

ALL those "risky" PR Stunts in your mind and did on some level work back when the Music was decent in the Mid 1980's.. BUT now the music sucks (invincible is aweful) All that is left is the STUPID PR Stunts! PR Stunts YOU can't stop because you are addicted to putting your name in the paper ever 1 1/2 Weeks for that last 20 Years ( and The Media enjoys putting out because you opened that Pandora's Box) with all the stupid "Bizarre" stories you released after Thriller.. The Elephant Bones & Oxygen Chamber.

It is something YOU wont & can't stop ... and The Media isn't going to stop.. SOOO Look in the Mirror you freak! You did all this to yourself!

Everything Jackson releases has the tone of:

1) Pitty Me
2) I am the Victim
rolleyes

This dude is a complete mess!
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Reply #36 posted 12/30/03 11:52pm

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My favorite part is when he said and shows how he could only move his arms to a certain point because of his "dislocated" shoulder and then five minutes later he proceeds to touch his wig/hair with no problem at all. Not to mention when he left the police station back in November he was waving with both his hands high above his head to the crowd.


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Reply #37 posted 12/31/03 1:00pm

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I guess Jacko pretending or thinking he is Jesus Christ & can heal in 72 hours after saying on TV that cops beat him up..

BUT normal humans wouldn't be able to do this LAST NIGHT on Entertainment Tonight!





Thank God Jacko has Super Powers!
rolleyes
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Reply #38 posted 01/01/04 5:07pm

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Dude shut up. Stop calling him Jacko!
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Reply #39 posted 01/01/04 6:02pm

AshK

locoarts said:


Thank God Jacko has Super Powers!
rolleyes


lol mj has had me cracking up lol, I can so easily see why ppl hate/dont beieve what he says cos if i werent such a big fan i'd shrug his claims straight away lol I could have sworn he claimed he couldnt lift his arms too high, obviously he was either exagerating or lying or perhaps those pictures aren't as recent as the station claims.hmmm I wonder what mj's lawyer thinks of mjs recent public revelations ? I read somewhere that the claims are going to be investigated and if found false then mj will have yet another charge on his sheet. I doubt his lawyer would let mj say all this unless he could prove it in court so perhaps theres more to come...
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Reply #40 posted 01/01/04 8:31pm

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I read the transcript of the 60 Minutes interview.


For the longest time- going back even to the 1st bruhaha in '93- I thought Michael was "guilty". Now, I'm more inclined to think he's innocent.


I still believe it's wrong for an adult to share a bed with a child in this context; anything could happen, & even if nothing did.. the possibility is still there. Yet simply because I think this is wrong & wholly inappropriate, that doesn't mean Michael's guilty.

Indeed, Michael lives in his own secluded version of "reality", & in his reality it's okay to share a bed with a child because he wouldn't "get sexual", he wouldn't "hurt" the child in question.

Then again, part of me thinks Michael is simply lying to himself.. about something..


Another part of me is SICK of hearing about how Michael "never had a childhood"..
okay, he didn't; GET OVER IT.
yes, we all know about that tearjerker song "Childhood".
in Michael's next life he should just run away from home when his "dominating & abusive" father "forces" him to become a superstar..
then he could have that "normal" childhood he has always dreamed of & severely misses, then he could grow up & have a "normal" adulthood & endeavor to have a NORMAL relationship with an ADULT WOMAN instead of a 12-year old boy.


Anyway, I think he's innocent.
God & heaven help him if he did do it.
I'll see you tonight..
in ALL MY DREAMS..
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